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"The Jersey Shore Shuffle"

Tom McNally said:
WBNJ is limited to about 20% toward WBGD. That's about 900 watts,
which at their height, is good for maybe 10 miles with a good signal.

The stations are 25 miles apart.

Both stations will cover their licensed service area just fine.

It's amazing what you can hear on a frequency when the local station is
off the air due to power outage or transmitter problems, etc.

I've heard stations hundreds of miles away right at the tower site of an
off air station. BUT ... put a few watts on and the distant station gets
blocked right out. That's the cool thing about FM.

Now band conditions present a whole new issue!

WBGD hasn't been on the air for two or three years. I know you know the rules.
 
The FCC takes time to act on things. I notice WBNJ started the appication
process in 2000 .... it took 10 years to get on the air!

The minimum broadcast schedule for a non-comm station is 5 hours a day,
6 days a week for a total of 30 hours. They can be off the air on either
Saturday or Sunday, plus they can be off the air anytime school isn't in
session, meaning all summer long.

Now ... here's an interesting thing. If a station is only broadcasting the
minimum schedule of 5 hours a day, another applicant can apply to SHARE
the time. So the first station is obligated to then adhere to a schedule
where the two stations split the time. Now, if one party doesn't broadcast
at all, the other station can have 100% of the time.

Mainland Regional High School in Linwood and Pleasantville Middle School have
a share-time for 101.7, but Pleasantville isn't on the air, so Mainland so far
has 100% of the time.

Someone who wanted to get on 91.9 in Brick could apply now, not for WBGD's
license, but for a share-time, and probably wind up with the whole thing.
No need to even talk to WBGD, just do it.

** at least that's the way I interpret the non-comm rules
 
Tom McNally said:
Mainland Regional High School in Linwood and Pleasantville Middle School have
a share-time for 101.7, but Pleasantville isn't on the air, so Mainland so far
has 100% of the time.

Just to clarlify, Tom, the FCC deleted the CP for Pleasantville for 101.7, so it is strictly Mainland Regional's station ...
 
Tom McNally said:
Someone who wanted to get on 91.9 in Brick could apply now, not for WBGD's
license, but for a share-time, and probably wind up with the whole thing.
No need to even talk to WBGD, just do it.

** at least that's the way I interpret the non-comm rules

I believe the rules require that the would-be time-sharer attempt to negotiate a time-share agreement with the existing licensee first. If they can't agree on a deal, then the would-be time-sharer can go to the FCC and ask that a time-share requirement be imposed.
 
My point is - there is another way "in" ...

Share-time would be a way to get on the air and ultimately wind up
with the frequency if the HS didn't do something. It's obvious that
they have no interest in it.
 
Scott Fybush said:
Tom McNally said:
Someone who wanted to get on 91.9 in Brick could apply now, not for WBGD's
license, but for a share-time, and probably wind up with the whole thing.
No need to even talk to WBGD, just do it.

** at least that's the way I interpret the non-comm rules

I believe the rules require that the would-be time-sharer attempt to negotiate a time-share agreement with the existing licensee first. If they can't agree on a deal, then the would-be time-sharer can go to the FCC and ask that a time-share requirement be imposed.

I wasn't referring to a time-share. The only way that is possible if the station agrees to it OR during the license renewal procedure. My point is the station has been of the air for almost three years. After one year if a station is off the air the license is deleted. Not in this case. A letter was sent to the school board asking them if they were of the air. That was two years ago and they are still of the air.

My question is, if the FCC deletes WBGD, would WBNJ be allowed to increase power?
 
tvnetdude said:
Scott Fybush said:
Tom McNally said:
Someone who wanted to get on 91.9 in Brick could apply now, not for WBGD's
license, but for a share-time, and probably wind up with the whole thing.
No need to even talk to WBGD, just do it.

** at least that's the way I interpret the non-comm rules

I believe the rules require that the would-be time-sharer attempt to negotiate a time-share agreement with the existing licensee first. If they can't agree on a deal, then the would-be time-sharer can go to the FCC and ask that a time-share requirement be imposed.

I wasn't referring to a time-share. The only way that is possible if the station agrees to it OR during the license renewal procedure. My point is the station has been of the air for almost three years. After one year if a station is off the air the license is deleted. Not in this case. A letter was sent to the school board asking them if they were of the air. That was two years ago and they are still of the air.

My question is, if the FCC deletes WBGD, would WBNJ be allowed to increase power?
Probably not. Due to proximity of short spacing between WVLT 92.1 and WYRS has a CP for 91.7 around Lakehurst that will butt into the service contour of WBNJ.

That is why it took 10 years to get them on the air.

New Jersey is almost the test case for short-spacing, now. (passing Baltimore-DC)

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
badjef said:
tvnetdude said:
Scott Fybush said:
Tom McNally said:
Someone who wanted to get on 91.9 in Brick could apply now, not for WBGD's
license, but for a share-time, and probably wind up with the whole thing.
No need to even talk to WBGD, just do it.

** at least that's the way I interpret the non-comm rules

I believe the rules require that the would-be time-sharer attempt to negotiate a time-share agreement with the existing licensee first. If they can't agree on a deal, then the would-be time-sharer can go to the FCC and ask that a time-share requirement be imposed.

I wasn't referring to a time-share. The only way that is possible if the station agrees to it OR during the license renewal procedure. My point is the station has been of the air for almost three years. After one year if a station is off the air the license is deleted. Not in this case. A letter was sent to the school board asking them if they were of the air. That was two years ago and they are still of the air.

My question is, if the FCC deletes WBGD, would WBNJ be allowed to increase power?
Probably not. Due to proximity of short spacing between WVLT 92.1 and WYRS has a CP for 91.7 around Lakehurst that will butt into the service contour of WBNJ.

That is why it took 10 years to get them on the air.

New Jersey is almost the test case for short-spacing, now. (passing Baltimore-DC)

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

Sounds like WBGD has lost value already and the kids and school have lost interest in it.
 
MickeyD said:
badjef said:
tvnetdude said:
Scott Fybush said:
Tom McNally said:
Someone who wanted to get on 91.9 in Brick could apply now, not for WBGD's
license, but for a share-time, and probably wind up with the whole thing.
No need to even talk to WBGD, just do it.

** at least that's the way I interpret the non-comm rules

I believe the rules require that the would-be time-sharer attempt to negotiate a time-share agreement with the existing licensee first. If they can't agree on a deal, then the would-be time-sharer can go to the FCC and ask that a time-share requirement be imposed.

I wasn't referring to a time-share. The only way that is possible if the station agrees to it OR during the license renewal procedure. My point is the station has been of the air for almost three years. After one year if a station is off the air the license is deleted. Not in this case. A letter was sent to the school board asking them if they were of the air. That was two years ago and they are still of the air.

My question is, if the FCC deletes WBGD, would WBNJ be allowed to increase power?
Probably not. Due to proximity of short spacing between WVLT 92.1 and WYRS has a CP for 91.7 around Lakehurst that will butt into the service contour of WBNJ.

That is why it took 10 years to get them on the air.

New Jersey is almost the test case for short-spacing, now. (passing Baltimore-DC)

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

Sounds like WBGD has lost value already and the kids and school have lost interest in it.
Most of the students attending now are probably unaware of its existance. The kids would have changed over due to graduations since it was last on the air.

It has lost value.

Q: When is the best time to buy stocks?

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
I have a feeling this creator is or was associated, had ties to, or was a former employee of WJRZ. Or, maybe it could be that guy who did 104.7 WZVU ;D

After being at the shore last weekend for the holiday and listening to the Jersey Shore Shuffle ON-AIR firsthand, some friends of mine and I got talking and happened to stumble upon one common denominator between WJRZ and WRAN... this is what we found...

http://www.tripprogers.com/trresume.htm
 
I ruled out Tripp early on because he lives in Barnegat, and the "Shuffle" is strictly a Toms River station ...
 
Just wondering if any of the "Columbos" that scour these boards were able to dig up any more info on this station/stream. I was a fan of CC's Format Lab streams or iheart radio but have been listening to this stream religiously at work and even in the car too when the dial loses my interest which is becoming a regular occurrence. I did notice a AIM Screenname but have yet to catch it online. I actually was thinking of making a request and offering a few suggestions...

Anyone?? 8)
 
I saw the AIM screen name online about a month or so ago, but repeated attempts to "talk" to the person went unanswered ...
 
djdalanj69 said:
I have a feeling this creator is or was associated, had ties to, or was a former employee of WJRZ. Or, maybe it could be that guy who did 104.7 WZVU ;D

After being at the shore last weekend for the holiday and listening to the Jersey Shore Shuffle ON-AIR firsthand, some friends of mine and I got talking and happened to stumble upon one common denominator between WJRZ and WRAN... this is what we found...

http://www.tripprogers.com/trresume.htm


Since Tripp works at Magic 100.1, I don't think he'd be doing something illegal....
 
Nice Father's Day and Michael Jackson Tributes over the past couple of weeks. Especially liked this past weekend with "The Welcome Summer Hits" Weekend. You really have some collection of music. I heard songs that I can't tell you when I heard them last! I got to hear the "Jersey Shore Shuffle" on the radio while I was down in Bayville over the weekend. Sounds Great as does the "JSS" Stream. I'm glad you are telling listeners where they can hear it by going to Shoutcast.com. Keep Rocking. :D. I'm going back down to the shore for the 4th of July weekend. Can't wait to see whats planned for this weekend. Will be listening.
 
Nick said:
If he works at Magic 100.1, perhaps he could get Jersey Shore Shuffle on the HD2 and the translators.

And best of all, it would be legal lol. Unless, somehow a translator is allowed on 104.1. 8)
 
Went to Seaside last-night for a birthday dinner :) with friends and had the JSS on,on the car radio, the music and imaging for the 4th of July weekend was great. I have to agree with everyone on the music, I hear songs that I haven't heard in a long time and it's great. We were playing trivia in the car on who does this song because you would know the title but forgot who did it because you don't hear these songs on other stations. After we lost the signal :-[my friend put his IPOD on with the stream. The audio processing on the stream is incredible :eek: you must check it out. Maybe someday this station will be legal or on a HD signal. Happy 4th JSS ;D
 
Promting the stream in North Jersey, and my mother is now hooked on this station and forgot about CBS-FM.
 
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