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The New CBS-FM

henry said:
Don't forget ... KTU is still "the New KTU" even though it's 11 years old. Hopefully in 2018 CBS will quit saying "let's go on with the show." ;D
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KTU is always the New KTU, because its a version on 103.5 not the old Disco 92 KTU...
 
I can't say I am totally disappointed..since they added late 70s and 80s to the "classic hits" format and droppped 50s and early 60s...I hope they will give a nod to first generation hits down the road if enough people ask for it. Miss the doo-wop,surf rock and blues-fusioned garage bands as well. Live jocks are still better than voice tracking or no jocks at all...All things considered,it's still much better than "jack." The JAM jingles are for the most part good and the 70s old school jive takes me back to that Catholic high school in Ohio off I-75.

For the first generation rock purists(myself included) there are the following:

http://www.littlewalter.com

http://www.doowopstop.com

http://www.hitsofyesteryear.com

http://www.retroradiotop40.com

http://www.oldies1150.com

and

http://www.oldies1160.com
 
neo11 said:
As for all the hatred for Jack, other than the fact that it was jock-less, or almost jock-less (there was Amy Scott and Delphine Blue), the hatred some people hold towards the station is amazing. I understand a lot of it came from the way the format change originally went down, but it all reeks of immaturity to me. The station was definitely far more interesting, musically, than most commercial stations out there. And for all the smarmy, pre-recorded liners the "Jack guy" said, I will say that they had much more personality and creativity than the saccharine sweet, bland liner card readers you hear on stations like Fresh or Lite FM for that matter.
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You're right. it was very immature and childish the way so called adults on this board acted and have been acting. Even when they knew JACJK was going, they couldn't resist giving it one last kick. My question to all these people is, would you have kicked up so much fuss if they flipped it to country instead of JACK?

I love the JACK format, however compared to JACK in LA, it lacked a local sound. The liners don't always need to be false or sacchrine sweet, but a bit witty would have been nice. Musically it could have done with a bit more of a New York flavour. Just because it didn't have jock's, people just didn't like it. In my opinion, add news, weather and traffic info to make it relavent, but if you are searching for music, who needs jock's. I think sharp, clever and entertain promo's and imaging will always win me over a boring liner reading has been jock?

But Alas, we why are we even so much as lammenting the passing of the most hated format in New York?
 
blueclaws1210 said:
i like it good music and good djs. hope them succuss and welcome them back on the air. i think nyc radio is looking better today.
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Burned-to-a-crisp oldies, music that's not dayparted, washed-up boss jocks, lots of clutter on the air.

Clear Channel, Citadel and Emmis have nothing to worry.
 
Hacky DJ's and jingles along with burned out hit garbage from the late 70s that makes you want to vomit.

JACK-FM 80's rock playlist was fantastic this last month and far superior than this crap on the air now. The sad thing is ok, they dumped the great JACK playlist but this is what we got in return. I would have expected the deep playlist like JACK had but for the 50s and 60s.

I was not even born then but anyone can see the 50s, 60s and rock of the 80s is better than the hits/disco of the late 70s.
 
Most of those here bitching and moaning about the resurrected CBS-FM are the same ones who were whining when it went away. And, most of them are disgruntled old and sour-on-radio types who see Oldies fading away as they see their careers fading away.

(or those under 35 who just like being critical of everything for the sake of it)
 
I like what I've heard so far...keep in mind, they pulled the plug on the old CBS-FM because oldies were dying. You've got to do something different if you're expecting a different result. Props to Dan Mason for bringing it back...my guess is, they'll keep "tweaking" it until they get it right.
 
I have recently relocated from NJ to San Diego. The JACK here is so much better that the JACK in NY. I find the mix and range to be much broader than in NY. When CBS finally gives up on KRock I hope jack finds a home on 92.3.
 
evalmaster said:
I have recently relocated from NJ to San Diego. The JACK here is so much better that the JACK in NY. I find the mix and range to be much broader than in NY. When CBS finally gives up on KRock I hope jack finds a home on 92.3.
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Like I said in another thread, if they had done that in the first place back in '05, instead of replacing CBS-FM and especially since they knew Stern was about to bolt, maybe Jack would have thrived.
 
Here's a thought, take on the jack aspact of expanding the playlist and INCLUDE the 50's-80's? Less repetition. As far as Jack goes i think the Jack format is interesting, I have heard it in many different cites. The most interesting one was Nashville, TN, i think it was 96.3. This actually played more rhythmic ac than any other jack i've heard. My guess it was catering to the genre of music that was lacking on other stations, they also had the rock, 80's, 90's and today mix. Don't know if there was a rhythmic oldies either. I thought to myself, maybe that's what Jack NY needed to do, instead of putting on most of what was played be PLJ, Z100, and Q 104. I guess i would have made it more of an upbeat jack with alternative, active rock, classic hip-hop hybrid, to give it that new york feel, and to fill that frequency with what the rest of the dial is lacking. Since the demise of KTU i guess i would have added some popular dance. Thoughts? This format would be strange, and most likely the dial will be changed, but at the same time people will tune in cause no one else is playing those formats. Just my opinion,
 
I like the station, it sounds like I'd suspect an oldies station in 2007 should sound... very similar to many of the oldies stations you find throughout the rest of NY and NJ... heavy on the late 60's & 70's, with some 80's.
 
The station is a great listen, putting everything in prospective. It's a natural progression that "oldies" station would have to move into the 80's to be able to capture the younger part of the demographic and make it more appealing to advertisers. I've been playing 80's on my station since 2001 so it's nice to see CBS-FM catch up and join the fold.

My only bone to pick is that I do miss the reverb. I think just adding a slight hint of reverb to make the microphone not sound so dry would be a great addition without bringing anything that would be pictured as negative connotation to the overall presentation.

All in all, it’s nice to have oldies, er, “Classic Hits” back on the radio.
 
Bill, I guess its a personal taste kind of thing but I hated reverb with a passion! That's why I preferred WIBG over WABC ... If you have good presentation you don't need reverb! So I'm glad its missing.
 
The next question is what about standards? How can New York City not have standards?

I was listening to a station just this morning which plays Sinatra, or Dean Martin, or Tony Bennett, or one of those other great vocalists, every few minutes. Sure it was satellite, but it was good. Never mind that Paul Davis generates the same sort of complaints that Whitney Houston does on an oldies station.
 
SuperRadioFan said:
Bill, I guess its a personal taste kind of thing but I hated reverb with a passion! That's why I preferred WIBG over WABC ... If you have good presentation you don't need reverb! So I'm glad its missing.
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Sadly, I guess you'd roll over and play dead if you ever listened to WLNG? Now there's a full-fledged, full service station with that "memorable" 60's Top 40 sound - complete with reverb! They're a fun listen not only for the music but for the personalities. With as much reverb as they run and their signature processing I'd guess you'd be chewing nails and spitting rust after five minutes of listening to them.
 
vchimpanzee said:
The next question is what about standards? How can New York City not have standards?
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NY does have standards, via suburban WHLI - Hempstead. The station gets about a half share in the NY ratings, but is a very, very low biller because there is not much ad business for people in their 70's.
 
Hardrocker9 said:
Here's a thought, take on the jack aspact of expanding the playlist and INCLUDE the 50's-80's? Less repetition. As far as Jack goes i think the Jack format is interesting, I have heard it in many different cites. The most interesting one was Nashville, TN, i think it was 96.3. This actually played more rhythmic ac than any other jack i've heard. My guess it was catering to the genre of music that was lacking on other stations, they also had the rock, 80's, 90's and today mix. Don't know if there was a rhythmic oldies either. I thought to myself, maybe that's what Jack NY needed to do, instead of putting on most of what was played be PLJ, Z100, and Q 104. I guess i would have made it more of an upbeat jack with alternative, active rock, classic hip-hop hybrid, to give it that new york feel, and to fill that frequency with what the rest of the dial is lacking. Since the demise of KTU i guess i would have added some popular dance. Thoughts? This format would be strange, and most likely the dial will be changed, but at the same time people will tune in cause no one else is playing those formats. Just my opinion,
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Completely different concept. Jack/Variety Hits is meant to be an ANTI-era specific mix, like many people used to make their "mix tapes" and now load iPods. Oldies-classic rock-type formats are meant to be nostalgic with their music.

Active Rock and hip-hop on one station? Can you spell "d-i-s-a-s-t-e-r"? Two of the most polarizing music types out today on one station? NOT! IMHO, even most of the "Jack" stations are too wide- The Arch in St Louis and Peak in Phoenix are pretty good examples of how Variety Hits should be done.
 
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