The Oasis died October 2nd, and now it's officially buried...

[OldGringo]

I agree...I switched on the Oasis the other day thinking I was about to relax......boy was I disappointed! Another crap radio station amongst all the others. who in their right mind really wants to listen to a bunch of rappers (especially nowadays), that can only rap about booty an how they wanna slap a B? Really....it tends to get annoying. All the switch did for me was give me a bigger headache to the point of me giving up radio all together and relying on cdz. Why the hell should I have to go out and spend my hard earned money on some satalite radio just to listen to a radio station that was once free?

AHHHHHHHHH......once again....more padding of THEIR POCKET WITH NO REGARD TO THE LISTENERS!!!!!!

You can not pad your pockets without having a regard for listeners, as revenues are based on how many listeners you have.

And Movin is not a rap staiton. There are a few pop songs by hip hop artists like Usher, but most of the playlist is non-hip hop and non-edgy rock leaning songs in an adult CHR type mix.

 

[ugmo2000]

OMG! Did you say Usher? : When was the last time he put out a good album? Like NEVER! who comes up with these crappy playlists anyway? It's like a bunch of crappy DJ's got together and said..."Let's make a playlist of all the songs that truely SUCK" and then they play it on this new "Movin'" radio station. I wish this new station will do exactly as its name implies....keep MOVIN'

 

[OldGringo]

OMG! Did you say Usher? : When was the last time he put out a good album? Like NEVER! who comes up with these crappy playlists anyway? It's like a bunch of crappy DJ's got together and said..."Let's make a playlist of all the songs that truely SUCK" and then they play it on this new "Movin'" radio station. I wish this new station will do exactly as its name implies....keep MOVIN'

Usually, the playlist comes from asking the target listener group, not form personal opinion of the jocks. Or the PD. Or the manager.

Here are the 50 top played songs on Movin' from the last 7 days...

TIMBERLAKE, JUSTIN Sexyback
GNARLS BARKLEY Crazy
RIHANNA SOS
SHAKIRA F/WYCLEF JEAN Hips Don't Lie
FURTADO, NELLY Promiscuous
AGUILERA, CHRISTINA Ain't No Other Man
PUSSYCAT DOLLS Buttons
BEDINGFIELD, NATASHA Unwritten
RIHANNA Pon De Replay
STEFANI, GWEN Rich Girl
BEYONCE Check On It
BLACK EYED PEAS Don't Phunk With My Heart
PUSSYCAT DOLLS Don't Cha
BLACK EYED PEAS Let's Get It Started
NINA SKY Move Ya Body
WEST, KANYE Gold Digger (f/Jamie Foxx)
MILIAN, CHRISTINA Dip It Low
PAUL, SEAN We Be Burning (Legalize It)
PAUL, SEAN Temperature
USHER Caught Up
BROWN, CHRIS Run It
CIARA 1,2 Step (f/Missy Elliott)
MARIO Let Me Love You
CASCADA Everytime We Touch
STEFANI, GWEN Hollaback Girl
BLACK EYED PEAS Pump It
DESTINY'S CHILD Soldier
BLACK EYED PEAS Don't Lie
USHER Burn
DESTINY'S CHILD Lose My Breath
PUSSYCAT DOLLS Stickwitu
BLACK EYED PEAS My Humps
CAREY, MARIAH We Belong Together
BLIGE, MARY J. Be Without You
ABAIR, MINDI True Blue
TISDALE, WAYMAN Get Down On It
FOURPLAY My Love's Leavin' f/M McDonald
JAZZMASTERS V Free As The Wind
PARKER, JR. RAY Mismaloya Beach
WHITE, PETER What Does It Take (To Win...)
ALBRIGHT, GERALD To The Max
BENOIT, DAVID Beat Street
BEYONCE Wishing On A Star
BROWN, PAUL Winelight
ELLIOT, RICHARD People Make The World Go Round
ELLIOT, RICHARD Say It's So
GROOVE, EUGE Chillaxin
JAMES, BONEY The Total Experience
KENNY G/D. SANBORN Pick Up The Pieces
LEWIS, RAMSEY Oh, Happy Day

 

[ugmo2000]

WOW! So you guys decided to mix in a lot of great jazz with a lot of crappy RnB....Way to go!

So now all of the old Oasis listeners can't keep their radio tuned to one station all day. Instead, they have to jump up every 3 minutes to keep from getting a huge migrane! Thanks for that! We really do appreciate that! NOT!

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[OldGringo]

WOW! So you guys decided to mix in a lot of great jazz with a lot of crappy RnB....Way to go!

Who are "you guys?" I have nothing to do with Movin' or CBS.

So now all of the old Oasis listeners can't keep their radio tuned to one station all day. Instead, they have to jump up every 3 minutes to keep from getting a huge migrane! Thanks for that! We really do appreciate that! NOT!

I do not think Movin' is targeted at the same listener group... the assumption is that the old listeners are gone.

And by the way, WHY DO YOU THINK TEXAS IS OVERPOPULATED WITH HISPANICS? COULD IT POSSIBLY BE THAT MOST OF THEM ARE HERE ILLEGALLY ANYWAY? WHY ARE YOU CATERING TO PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE ILLEGALLY THAN THE PEOPLE THAT WERE BORN HERE? SOUNDS LIKE MORE CORPORATE BS TO ME!?!?!?!?!

Well over 65% of Hispanics in Texas were born in Texas. In many areas, the Hispancs have been there longer than any other group.

Illegals do not participate in radio ratings, so the point in this discussion is moot, anyway.

There are, at 2005 estimates, about 8 million Hisanics in Texas. There are 42 million Hispanics in the US. About 7 million illegals are Hispanic, spread across the US. That makes less than 15% of all Hispanics illegal. Leaving the moral or political issues aside, that means that most Hispanics in Texas, or 7 of the 8 million, are legal. That is not "most" are illegal by any streach.

 

[OldGringo]

UGMO: The Master of Grand Illusion is once again trying to play with numbers and dazzle with double talk to make it sound he is informed about Texas while living in LA. You are right in your assessment,According to the ACCURATE US CENSUS 49% of hispanics are born here or other parts of this country.51% are illegal and growing. The Texas Comptrollers office concurs as well The counties along the RGV show only 35% hispanics living there are citizens of the country. Bexar county shows 48% (San Antonio). David Edward Frankleton Gleason, the Master of Grand Illusion will come along momentarily and attempt to correct what I just said, He will weave and "spin" numbers showing different results. Pay no attention to the hombre behind his saran wrap curtain.

Pardon my adjusting your 6 year old reality. the Census does updates every year, and I am using Claritas data which is a combination of the Census updates and other tools like vehicle registrations, etc., to show that about 65% of Texas Hispanics are born in the US. 55% of Hispanic population growth nationally is from births in the US, not immigration.

Even your own data is wrong. If the 2000 Census showed 49% of Hispanics born here, the remaining 51% are not ALL illegal. Most, in fact, are legal residents or naturalized citizens... in other words, legal but not born here.

Not being born here is not the same as being illegal.

Not being a citizen is not the same as being illegal.

There are naturalized US Citizens and there are legal residents. Texas had, in 2000, 2.9 million foreign born. Of these, 2.2 million were Hispanic. And of all these, Hispanic or otherwise, most are either naturalized citizens or legal residents.
For your information, the Census did not even ask place of birth. The long form, which is a poll, was used on a much smaller percentage of people, and projected into the universe, so any data on birth is from the poll, not the Census. And, in any case, the poll indicates that 2.2 million texas Hispanics are foreign born, of whom 33% are naturalized citizens and the rest are not. Those that are foreign born and not naturalized are, in a significant percentage, legal residents. In other words, aobut 1 million, give or take, of nearly 8 million Texas Hispanics, only 1 million are illegal, NOT 51%.

Since Hispanic immigration has been at its highest in the last 15 to 18 years, most Hispanic immigrants who are legal are not yet eligible for naturalization.

 

[board_manager]

How about everyone staying on the thread's (and the board's) chosen topic? Straying off topic into personal attacks and other NON-RADIO discussions isn't helpful to the board. This particular board is for the discussion of Dallas-Ft. Worth-related RADIO issues. Start a thread on the Off the Air board if you wish to discuss immigration matters.

 

[OldGringo]

Re: Smooth Jazz & Demos

How about everyone staying on the thread's (and the board's) chosen topic? Straying off topic into personal attacks and other NON-RADIO discussions isn't helpful to the board. This particular board is for the discussion of Dallas-Ft. Worth-related RADIO issues. Start a thread on the Off the Air board if you wish to discuss immigration matters.

Our moderator makes a reasonable point.

Ethnicity is only a radio issue insofar as it affects radio programming in a market, just as changing age characteristics do.

As we know, Arbitron seeks proportionality on age groups, geography (different counties in proporiton), sex and ethnicity so that each sub-group is equally represented in the sample. So, if a market is 13% Black and 26% Hispanic, as is the Dallas MSA, we should have 13% of diaries from Blacks and 26% from Hispanics, just like we have the correct proportion form each age cell.

In the Winter "book" Arbitron added a new stratification variable, language usage among Hispanics so that within that group, those that are English dominant and those that are Spanish dominant will be correct in thier true proportions in the MSA.

Illegal immigrants don't as a rule fill in diaries, so the issue of "legality" is not relevant to the demographic discussion.

The changing demos do, to some extent, explain the demise of The Oasis since Hispanics vastly underindex in listening to this format in all markets. With 1/4 of the market being Hispanic, this leaves a smaller pool for a smooth jazz station to tap into.

An example of this was seen today. KIFM, the Smooth Jazz statio in San Diego was #1 12+ in the Summer "book" but in a market that is 27% Hispanic, only 13% of the cumers are Hispanic. Also interesting is that 51% of the listeners are over 55, and another 25% are between ages 50 and 54... so the issue is mostly ageing on this format, not ethnicity.

 

[TLCat]

They should have had a website before the one in Portland did. I still want to know why Portland has www.movin1075.com and www.movin1075fm.com? Dallas is the only market that do not have a website for MOViN.

Typical oversight by CBS-Dallas. They're not known for dotting the i's and crossing the t's.

while the website is a horrible excuse for a website... especially if more than one city is claiming it...

http://www.movin1075fm.com/

while it says across the bottom it is in CA the streaming that occurs online is the same that occurs in dfw.