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The "Q" Isn't for You...Any Longer???

Actually, the station averaged 7th 25-54 and 5th 35-64 when the format changed from oldies three years ago.That was, however, with a strong local morning show hosted by Michael Neff. IMHO,the satellite delivered format can work as a business model ;having a local morning show and a PD who pays attention to the little details makes it sound less " canned" and more connected to the community.

People were used to that type of music at those dial positions. Perhaps they can again deliver those numbers.
 
Heard the station on the way home from work -- music mix is OK, although I wish they weren't ignoring the 50s. The bed music was too loud and annoying, could hardly make sense of what the DJ was saying. Is this the same satellite they used before or is it a different one?

R.I.P. All Beatles Channel...it was great while it lasted.
 
Wasn't it " The Oldies Channel" by Westwood One before? They had that sucker purring along before that carpet bagger consultant pulled the plug on it.
Wonder if Michael Neft will be on the morning show?
 
A couple of thoughts on this, Oldies 92 lasted from Sept. 1996 to a few years ago when they did the "Q" thing. It wasn't the format we radiophiles loved but your average 35 plus listener, a person who did not care for our "Inside Baseball" opnions loved it. The ad revenue was pretty good too. The hallmark of the Shamrock brand in this market has been consistency. Look at the staying power of Rock 107. Odies 92 had that potential, not a world beater but a nice little format that billed well.
I've been away from active listening because of some work, personal and blog related events. So I was surprised when a co worker in the week (a gal who does not nor cares to own a TV set despite various attempts by people to give her one) told me about the Beatles format. All Beatles all the time? My mind flashed back to the time counter Citadel used when putting on a station to challenge 107, the non stop 24/7 playing of "Louie Louie" in 1997 to launch Cool 94 which was a precursor to The Cat Country fiasco and the famous heartbeat used I believe by The Mountain. So I knew it was a stunt but by God my friends and I were going to enjoy it. I had been railing all week about how stuff was taken from my generation, (even the closing of the church I grew up in as a boy (here's my you tube video on it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qVjWyBNOqw) so I was in a bitter mood. The Beatles tonic was perfect for me at least this week and my wife loved it. I thought maybe this would be a lighter 107 type format.
Tonight I listened for a half hour and when you hear "Sweet Pea" and "Incense and Peppermints", well you know this isn't going to be anything near classic rock. I'm thrilled because this is music I grew up with. My buddy Gene from the Lehigh Vallety provides me with some oldies I thought were lost. I've played the CDs, enjoyed GEM 107 on 95.3 and valiantly tried to tune in WARM but could only get clear signals in my bathroom. (I live in Wilkes Barre's North End). So, as a listener I'm glad this music is back, in clear tones that can blast the neighborhood if I want to.
It will be interesting to see the impact this format has on GEM (which has done yeoman's work in community involvement) as well as WARM. I hope all can participate and thrive. Maybe this might push WARM to Junior's frequency but I think not.
Cool 94 was one great format in the late 80s ('87 I think it started) and proved as well as Oldies 92 that this is a viable format ratings and billing wise with staying power. Again, not top 5 but not lower teens either in the book. Remember, my brother in law loves the Oldies and really doesn't care how they got on his car or truck radio.
Closing thoughts, my YOU TUBE video featured The Beatles. I put them in there because they were the classic band of all time. When I was a kid, a friend in 1967 told me as we listened to "Srgn. Pepper's", "the Beatles will endure beyond the year 2000 and beyond". I thought he was nuts, showed you what I knew. What better way to kick off this format than with the Fab 4. The Beatles sell. When I was at WVIA FM, we did a Beethoven and the Beatles Fundraising weekend. Through the roof.
On the format, I wonder how long it will take Bobby Vanderheiden (who was Sales Manager at Oldies 92 and Programmer for a while there) to try to get a doo wop show on 92.1.
And in closing on consultants, here's my definition of one. "A person who thinks he or she knows everything. They will ask your opinion on the market, use it as an arguement for "change" and do the opposite. They will temporarily rule the roost and play with people's lives. After doing enough damage to friendships, careers and institutions they were entrusted with, the blithely blow out of town leaving someone else to pick up the pieces of the wreckage they wrought".

Yonkstur
 
Yonk,

I love your comments about consultants, my friend Tim (famous short wave guy) the engineer who use to be at Armstrong transmitter in Syracuse had the ultimate comment about consultants.......he referred to consultants as "INSULTANTS!!, they blow into town....insult everyone and leave.

KF
 
My voice is still on commercials? WOW.

Yonkster...love the line about leaving damage behind...:)
 
An old sage broadcaster once shared with me his definition of a consultant.One who borrows your watch to tell you what time it is.
 
All i can say is oldies 92 welcome back home!Can three oldies formats survive here?sure hope so.How long before the first casualty, warm mabye?Now there is truly no reason to tune to am around here anymore.By the way shark,nice work at the gemster.
 
OK...So TS pays thousands to "out of town clowns" to figure out what to do 3 years ago, TS does the change. Now they get a "town clown" to tell them to go back to "The Way They Were" (will they play that?). I guess if you have the $$ to throw away it dosen't matter. I think I'll become a consultant and approach them in 3 years to change back to the Q. Yes, Time Shamrock is credible...like their newspapers....OOPS! Who put the "con" in consultant?
 
Consultants serve two purposes at a family-owned business:

They advise owner/management on how best to maximize earnings because simply having the keys to the place doesn't mean you have to have a clue about what to do with the place.

And after six or eight books when the advice fails to produce results (results meaning spending no money on talent or promotions with the expectation of making countless millions), they are someone to blame and fire who is not the owner/management/family member.
 
K-rock/NYC, WYSP/Philly, CBS-FM/NYC, now Cool (errrr, Oldies) 92/100. That now seems to be the trend in radio these days, the "whoops, we f***ed up, now we're back" approach. Seems to be working in most cases. People will realise the 60s and 70s music is back and will return. Remember, the Oldies crowd is now, well, older, and they have developed "brand loyalty". This is a way to play on that. People now tune in for the music, not the whole presentation (boss jocks, sing-a-long jingles, etc). They will hear their favorite music on 92.1/100.1/100.5 (?) and will resume listening like they never left, or the return of an old friend who apologizes for going away with little to no notice.
 
NEPA_radiobored said:
scmidlapp said:
I don't know Kerry, but why is this always happening to Keith?????
Because he is always posting on this board asking about Keith instead of working on a decent morning show... ;D
Sorry to disappoint you---I'm not Keith.
I met him in the 90's when we were both working for Susquehanna, and we both worked up on the 5th floor together during the Z-Rock days.
A nice guy. We had a lot of fun.
 
Are you Johnny Kilgore from Z-Rock...hahahaha...

Matt and Keith, 2 great guys there... What a great bunch of guys that was working there.. Jude, Chooch, D & W, DC, Lou, Ed, George, Dan, Rising, that was a great cast of characters... The fridge of Beer in the back hallway by the freight elevator. Trips to the roof...
yup, great crew back in the day, just at the point where radio changed from fun to corporate... Ahh yes, miss those days.
 
Hits Of The 80's, 90's, & Now can now be heard on 88.1 FM.... within 7 inches of D-Stroyer's car.

For the time that I've been listening, they've ID'd as "80's On 8", "90's On 9", "20 On 20", "Mix 22", "Flight 26", "The Hitlist", and "Lucy". The DJ that's hitting the buttons is putting together a pretty damn good mix. (I hear he used to work in radio around here.)

So, the next time you find yourself rear-ending, side-swiping, or broadsiding a green Grand Am, be sure to punch up 88.1 FM and tell us what you think ...And, tell a friend!

:)
 
Rockin Rob said:
People will realize the 60s and 70s music is back and will return. Remember, the Oldies crowd is now, well, older, and they have developed "brand loyalty". This is a way to play on that. People now tune in for the music, not the whole presentation (boss jocks, sing-a-long jingles, etc). They will hear their favorite music on 92.1/100.1/100.5 (?) and will resume listening like they never left, or the return of an old friend who apologizes for going away with little to no notice.

I am not one to be critical of something new, but I give Cool 92/100 a year, maybe a year and a 1/2 before the next format flip. It might be only a matter of time before .5 and the 1.0 ratings give TS the itch to change things up again.

I wish TS would just sell off 92/100 (or at least 1 of the 2 signals), and move on.
 
It's interesting to look at the listener comments on the Cool website. It's a mix between OK good, Why did you kill the Q?, and scarily enough... Why did you tease us by all-Beatles? I loved it, and everyone I talked to loved it too...but you screwed up.
 
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