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The Rush Rebuttal - New Program Idea

satech said:
Don't forget when he advocated people to pay cash for their medical expenses rather than having insurance, and then justified it by saying that his latest stint at the emergency room "didn't even cost half what the average SUV owned by the average American family is."

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_010610/content/01125108.guest.html

He's rich and out of touch. What's your point? At least he's spending HIS money on this stuff. I could care less if he pops hands full of oxycontins and spends $10 million on bionic ears, as long as it's not my money paying for it.

This idea that the opposing view isn't being represented because it's not represented on the exact same station playing Rush is ridiculous. There are hundreds of various media sources that someone who wants left leaning news can go to if they don't want to hear Rush. Enough of this forced "balance" stuff. It does nothing but kill stations. Unless you want every talk radio station running ESPN off the bird or doing brokered "male enhancement" infomercials 24/7, which I think the actual agenda behind all of this stuff is, the stations that choose to run Rush are going to continue to complement him with similar shows. Its what the audience of that station wants, and that's how things are supposed to be.
 
These millionaire talk show hosts amaze me. Beck, Limbaugh, and Hannity each has millions of dollars in the bank and they squeal like stuck pigs at the idea that working class people will now be getting healthcare insurance. These are people who are working everyday at jobs that do not provide employer health insurance - all non-union jobs which the GOP favors. These folks are not welfare bums who've been getting free medical coverage via Medicaid (that you and I already pay taxes to provide) for decades while they sit home watching TV all day. These millionaire's whine, it's Socialism. Of course, if you listen to Rush closely, he'd also do away with Medicare and Social Security, because those too are Socialistic programs (how many of you will be able to survive without either of those socialistic programs). He's correct they are socialistic programs. He's rich enough and he doesn't need the assistance that those programs provide to millions of seniors who prior to FDR starting his "socialistic agenda" known as the New Deal in 1932 were the poorest group of people in the nation. Many retired old people were starving in the US and this was prior to the Great Depression of the 1930's.

Having conservative values is one thing, but being greedy, selfish, and not being willing to help those who for the grace of God go I, are in a worse situation than most of us, (many in radio may not have healthcare benefits either). There are plenty of ways to save billions of dollars the government wastes, but helping people who truly do need help, especially people who go and work every day to support their families and are doing their part as tax payers (yes they pay taxes like the rest of us), seems very wrong.

That's the conservative rebuttal radio show I'd listen to. I want a conservative talk show where the host values conservative values without giving up being a human who has compassion for the lesser of these. Maybe it's time for the conservative talkers to start teaching the nation that the phrase "compassionate conservative" isn't an oxymoron. Have conservative values without selling your soul to the greed that unfortunately seems to be prevalent in far too much conservative talk radio.

Now could a talk show like that pull in many listeners? Would it sell in the market place? We'll probably never know as I don't believe there are any conservative talk show hosts out there who'd dare to leave the GOP or Libertarian reservations and say stuff like that.
 
The "conservative" you're describing wouldn't quite be a conservative if he favored government providing everything for people. He'd be a liberal/Statist.

Without discussing the merits of various viewpoints, since this isn't really the place for that, what you're basically saying is that conservatives are greedy rich people who want everyone to starve and die. There are plenty of shows who already say that sort of thing. If people want to hear it, they'll find it. Then if those shows do well, there will be copycats of them all over the place. That's how things work.

I don't really think this is the proper forum for discussing actual politics, but let's just say that there are plenty of conservatives that aren't rich. I barely have two dimes to rub together, especially with a full time school schedule, and my values are still the same. Someone has to pay for these programs. Guess what? It ain't going to be "rich fat cats" like Rush and Glenn Beck. It's going to be you and me. And our children. And our childrens' children. There's an old saying in economics. "There is no free lunch". Same can be said for health care.

And that's all I'm going to say about the whole subject. I'd rather discuss the radio business here. Plenty of time for politics later.

Holland Cooke said:
Don C said:
I could care less if he pops hands full of oxycontins and spends $10 million on bionic ears, as long as it's not my money paying for it.

I suspect that you mean "I couldn't care less."
:)

D'oh! That one gets me EVERY time. Bad bad habit!
 
I didn't say a government solution was the best course for the healthcare issue, but as the GOP doesn't seem to want to do anything at all about solving this problem (and didn't during the 8 years George W. Bush was President when they controlled Congress), it's what we have, for now - a government solution that isn't totally government run as the commercial health insurers will be the providers, so it isn't as Socialistic as Obama and the Democrats would have wanted, as in the Single Payer System that Canada and England have.

Frankly, I believe the GOP will do some serious "House and Senate" cleaning come this November allowing the GOP to follow up on my next statement. This would be where the Rush Rebuttal program could be useful, as it would be great to hear a conservative talk host say, sure let's have healthcare for those who need it, because we conservatives are compassionate and do care about the little guy who's out there working his arse off at a job, but still can't get health insurance for his family. So right here on the Rush Rebuttal Show we're going to tell you all how we conservatives can make a "market driven" version work for everyone, including those with pre-existing conditions, etc, that won't bankrupt our nation and put us further in debt to the Chi-comms (a Rush ism for Red China).

Now that would be a great alternative to the same ole same ole ranting and raving that Beck/Rush/Hannity offer each day on their conservative talk shows, in my opinion. Instead of their constant whining about the Democrats and Obamacare and creeping Socialism, why not use their talk shows to discuss their conservative market driven solutions. Create via the radio some excitement about fixing what Obama, Pelosi, and Reid have done, yet still giving those hard working folks who'd like to have health insurance to be able to have it. You never know, maybe that sort of conservative radio talk show might win over some moderate Democrats and Independents who want folks to be able to have health insurance, but really don't want the government running it.

My intent is not trying to get us into a political discussion here, I'm trying to show how a conservative radio talk show, could "evangelize" some folks who want health insurance for all, but don't, at this point, believe the GOP is capable of setting up a system so that they could get health insurance and have settled for what Obama and the gang have offered. A more positive approach to doing a talk show.

In other words, the next phase of talk radio, Rush and is ilk are old school now. It doesn't take a PhD to write Rush/Beck/Hannity's monologues as they're so predictable. It definitely is NOT compelling radio anymore. It's time for the next big thing in talk radio. So if conservatives don't come up with that next big thing for talk radio, the lib's might and then you'll be complaining how it's so hard to find conservative talk on the radio as it will then become a thing of radio's past, like live big band remotes and radio dramas.
 
I don't disagree that the big conservative shows are predictable and dull. Especially Hannity. He's a catchphrase machine. I don't think the answer is for conservative hosts to act more liberal, though. They need to present the shows differently. I also agree that there's room for a more positive explanation of conservative principles, but it always seems when that's tried people just don't tune in. People thrive on conflict, and radio is no different. The reason that Rush and Hannity are so popular is because they deliver what people want.

What the conservative radio world needs is someone with the education and smarts of Levin and Savage, the earnestness of Beck and the showmanship of Rush. I'm sure someone will emerge one of these days.
 
You do bring up a good point, that people seem to like conflict, or bad news, ie. if it bleeds it leads on local TV news or heavy use of the police blotter in local radio news. I've never been willing to sit and listen to a preacher or pastor who's yelling as he/she presents their sermon. I want a well thought out, based on what the Bible says, etc, sermon that is presented intelligently with passion, but without the yelling, anger, and negativity that can actually be heard in some of the more fundamentalist type churches (I'm a Lutheran). So I guess that's also why I'd pick an NPR talk show (not for political reasons, but it meets those above standards) and why I just can't stand Beck/Limbaugh/Hannity. Rush is the least offensive of the three, but even a little bit of him too goes a long way for my ears.

However, I may be the odd ball and commercial talk radio as a general rule may not ever meet what my ear likes in presentation style and lack of yelling. Good discussion.
 
I think those of us who seek out good radio and discuss what makes good radio are the exception. Once you listen to enough political talk, you get sick of the angry stuff or guys who repeat catchphrases. For instance, while I agree with him a lot, I can only listen to Hannity for about 15 minutes. He seems to do the old drive time trick of resetting every break. You listen to one break of his show, you know his show for the whole day. He's probably as big as he is in PM drive precisely because he does that, but it's not good for long term listening. I'll listen to Levin, but mainly because I find his anger outbursts funny. In between them, he has more substance than Hannity or Rush do.

I've been finding myself listening to John Batchelor more than any of them lately.
 
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Holland Cooke said:
Don C said:
I could care less if he pops hands full of oxycontins and spends $10 million on bionic ears, as long as it's not my money paying for it.

I suspect that you mean "I couldn't care less."
:)
At most, I only care about 0.00002% about that myself, so it could probably go either way for most people, too. ;D
 
I'd love to see all stations that carry Crybaby Beck, Pig Limbaugh, Regurgitate Hannity, and Screaming Levin go to PPM Arbitron ratings so we could see exactly how many people really listen. Wouldn't it be neat to know just how many people listen to 12 hours of this garbage a day? Not that Whale Schultz and Idiot Rhodes are any better. I don't listen to any of that garbage left or right because I'm sick of it all. I'll stick with baseball games and music.
 
Goat Rodeo Cowboy said:
No, I think he's old enough to vote. Must have been him in the booth next to me the other day.

He's an Alex Jones fan, what do you expect? There's a guy we can all agree is a bit over the top.
 
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