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KeithE4 said:
Clear Channel now requires you to load a pop-up window for most of their streams. For most people this is not a problem, except I use a PPC-6700 and have been unable to listen to CC streams since the change. Whenever I try to load the raw url of the stream into WIndows Media Player, I get a "not authrorized" error.
I hope this is not a trend the other major broadcasters will follow, such as Citadel, CBS & Cox.
Here's my problem.
I used WMP because it was much more accessible with my screenreading software. The Popup players are set to a certain volume whereas I could adjust Media Player without affecting my speech volume. So, any ways to get around it?
I used WMP because it was much more accessible with my screenreading software. The Popup players are set to a certain volume whereas I could adjust Media Player without affecting my speech volume. So, any ways to get around it?
Unfortunetly, Clear Channel is now streaming their stations the way Major League Baseball streams their live games (both use Akamai.com as their streaming provider); the reflector number assigned to each station don't change, but the authorization key to listen to a particular stream changes every 24 hours. So by the time you've sniffed everything out to save a station in your WMP library, the file is already dead 
Sucks, but there it is.
Sucks, but there it is.
Indeed a worthy quest. All hail the one who finds that way ;D
RadioFanBoy said:Unfortunetly, Clear Channel is now streaming their stations the way Major League Baseball streams their live games (both use Akamai.com as their streaming provider); the reflector number assigned to each station don't change, but the authorization key to listen to a particular stream changes every 24 hours. So by the time you've sniffed everything out to save a station in your WMP library, the file is already dead
Sucks, but there it is.
Any broadcaster who operates this way is behaving like a fool. You are telling many of your potential listeners to go somewhere else.
I have no problem with the advertising. I mean, I can't see it, so I really don't care. My main issue is that some stations stream so loudly that my JAWS software cannot be heard thus I cannot surf the net. Also, streaming is a new revenue feature, and oh yeah it's free. No such thing as a free lunch guys.
The advertising isn't spam. Spam is something you get unsolicited. The advertising in this case is opt-in. You opt-in by listening to the stream. If you don't want advertising then don't listen to the stream. Advertising is your payment for the service because advertising funds the stream. If you aren't willing to do that then don't "Listen Now".
There seems to be a lack of understanding of the value and cost of streaming. Unlike broadcast radio, where having 1,000 listeners costs no more than having 1 listener, in the streaming world 1000 listeners is 1000 times more expensive. It's DIRECTLY proportional.
The other option is subscription. Unfortunately, most subscription services have failed miserably as a business model. The only ones in the public media sector I can think of that 'may' be successful are Rush Limbaugh and other national personalities. It would be very difficult to convince many of a station's listeners to pay for what they have been taught is free.
Like it or not, streaming for terrestrial radio stations is a business not a hobby.
There seems to be a lack of understanding of the value and cost of streaming. Unlike broadcast radio, where having 1,000 listeners costs no more than having 1 listener, in the streaming world 1000 listeners is 1000 times more expensive. It's DIRECTLY proportional.
The other option is subscription. Unfortunately, most subscription services have failed miserably as a business model. The only ones in the public media sector I can think of that 'may' be successful are Rush Limbaugh and other national personalities. It would be very difficult to convince many of a station's listeners to pay for what they have been taught is free.
Like it or not, streaming for terrestrial radio stations is a business not a hobby.
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