They preempted that for this?

[SteveRichards]

Network affiliation contracts vary from network to network and from station to station. Some stations have their affiliation agreements posted on the stations section of the FCC website: https://stations.fcc.gov. I've seen different CBS affiliation contracts that allow anywhere from 5 to maybe just over 20 hours of prime-time pre-emptions per year. This is a huge change from say 20 years ago or so, where some of the more flagrant affiliates might have pre-empted in the neighborhood of 80 to 100 hours per year.

 

[K.M. Richards]

The networks should be able to penalize stations for pre-empting regular programming, especially when it's for infomercials.

The legal reality of network affiliation agreements renders your opinion meaningless. "Should" is your opinion. "Can" is based upon the language in the agreement document. As posted above, there are always provisions for affiliate pre-emptions; while the amount allowed has gone down over the years (and in the earliest days of television, you would have stations with multiple network affiliations and as a result the weakest network's programming was lucky to be carried 20% to 25% of the time) the provisions still exist. And before you tell me that the provision should be higher when infomercials are involved, I suspect any such provision would be struck down in court as unreasonable network interference in an affiliate station's business decisions.

Sorry, not gonna happen.

 

[mvcg66b3r]

Detroit...again. WXYZ is doing its annual special on the North American International Auto Show, and though no date has been announced, it's likely to bump ABC shows from primetime...again. Here's a promo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9sxQDJN7EU&feature=em-uploademail

 

[mvcg66b3r]

Every New Year's Eve, KMBC delay's Dick Clark (or who's replaced him) by an hour for their 2 Sitcom reruns even though the ball drop can be seen live hundreds of other places

This year's NYRE is live on KMBC at 10:30pm CT. NBC's celebration is still delayed on KSHB.
http://www.zap2it.com/rmp/tvgrid/tvgridprint?lineupid=USA-KS57836-X&tz=US/Central&time=1420081200

They're talking about this on my other thread:
http://www.radiodiscussions.com/sho...New-Year-s-Eve-coverage&p=6023104#post6023104

 

[Avid Listener]

Detroit...again. WXYZ is doing its annual special on the North American International Auto Show, and though no date has been announced, it's likely to bump ABC shows from primetime...again. Here's a promo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9sxQDJN7EU&feature=em-uploademail

How is a Detroit (aka "Motor City") station pre-empting network shows in favor of what's probably the most important event to the economic future of Detroit "inexplicable"? It's easy to explain. WXYZ thinks the North American International Auto Show is more important to the people of Detroit than whatever ABC is broadcasting. How is that explanation difficult? You might disagree, but you cannot deny that there is an explanation, and therefore the pre-emption is not "Inexplicable".

 

[nomadcowatbk]

This year's NYRE is live on KMBC at 10:30pm CT. NBC's celebration is still delayed on KSHB.
http://www.zap2it.com/rmp/tvgrid/tvgridprint?lineupid=USA-KS57836-X&tz=US/Central&time=1420081200

They're talking about this on my other thread:
http://www.radiodiscussions.com/sho...New-Year-s-Eve-coverage&p=6023104#post6023104

KMBC is now airing Jimmy Kimmel at his network appointed time of 10:35 PM

 

[mvcg66b3r]

KMBC is now airing Jimmy Kimmel at his network appointed time of 10:35 PM

It still airs The View on an hour's delay at 11am CT.

 

[mvcg66b3r]

Viewers rip CBS for switching away from Kentucky-Texas A&M game in overtime
Texas A&M pushed the undefeated Kentucky Wildcats to double overtime Saturday, causing the television broadcast to run over its allotted time frame on CBS. A number of fans in various locations across North America missed the end of the game because their CBS affiliate switched to local programming, leaving many stuck with Andy Griffith instead of Andrew Harrison.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/01/kentucky-texas-am-overtime-cbs-andy-griffith

 

[anotherguyTN]

Viewers rip CBS for switching away from Kentucky-Texas A&M game in overtime
Texas A&M pushed the undefeated Kentucky Wildcats to double overtime Saturday, causing the television broadcast to run over its allotted time frame on CBS. A number of fans in various locations across North America missed the end of the game because their CBS affiliate switched to local programming, leaving many stuck with Andy Griffith instead of Andrew Harrison.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/01/kentucky-texas-am-overtime-cbs-andy-griffith

I didn't see the game, but if WREG in Memphis switched away (and I wouldn't put it past them) they left the game for infomercials, which is totally inexcusable.

 

[danderson4411]

not really a preempton just nbc being quick on the trigger browns took a big lead aganist the raiders and nbc switched to the colts chargers only to have the raiders come back late

 

[danderson4411]

is there a way to stop automation from kicking in at the wrong time?

 

[mvcg66b3r]

From oldiesfan6479 on RadioInsight:

After the Super Bowl (Sun Feb 01), NBC wraps up its evening with a special live Tonight Show, tentatively scheduled at 11:50 PM ET. In perusing the listings on zap2it.com, it will also air live in most Mountain Time Zone markets, at 9:50 PM MT. But not in Salt Lake City. Not even on a delay. The KSL-TV listings do not show Fallon being on at all.

http://radioinsight.com/community/topic/special-tonight-show-mountain-time-zone/#post-130546

Here's what's in Salt Lake on according to Zap2it:

9:15pm: KSL News Special Edition
10pm: KSL 5 News at 10
10:30pm: KSL 5 News at 10:30 Sunday
11pm: Sportsbeat Sunday
11:30pm: Sanctuary (religious program?)

http://www.zap2it.com/rmp/tvgrid/tvgridprint?lineupid=USA-UT43414-X&tz=US/Mountain&time=1422849600

 

[SteveRichards]

As of Sunday afternoon, TitanTV and TV Guide indicate the special Tonight Show to be shown on KSL-TV, but at different times: TitanTV shows Fallon airing "in pattern" at 9:50 and TV Guide shows it on delay starting at 10:30.

 

[mvcg66b3r]

These next few posts are from the “They preempted that for this?” thread on 506sports.com, which I got mercilessly banned from. I just thought I could share them with you.

http://506sports.com/forum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=3583.0

Title: Re: They preempted that for this?
Post by: chuckydoll on November 07, 2012, 09:30:47 AM
WSYX in Columbus OH preempted both ABC World News Tonight and "Nightline" the day before the election to broadcast an anti-Obama special (http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsme...ir_broadcast_group_ohio_antiobama_special.php). ABC will not be pleased that an affiliate in a top-50 DMA aired right-wing propaganda in place of Diane Sawyer.

Then again WSYX is owned by Sinclair Broadcast Group, which once banned a "Nightline" program that honored US soldiers killed in action in Iraq.

Title: Re: They preempted that for this?
Post by: sctvhound on December 05, 2012, 10:42:42 PM
Two of the four major network stations in Charleston right now are preempting new shows. Channel 2 (NBC) is preempting a new Law and Order: SVU for a taped local awards ceremony, the Giving Back Awards.

Channel 4 (ABC) is preempting a new Suburgatory for a infomercial from a local spine institute. Friday, they are preempting the 9pm hour again (a repeat of Shark Tank) for a Feed the Poor special. They are airing that Sunday at 1:30pm.

They do this almost every year in December so they can get local extra ad money.

Not good for a top 100 market to have two of the networks preempted at the same time.

Title: Re: They preempted that for this?
Post by: sctvhound on February 20, 2013, 12:00:27 AM
KCTV in Kansas City preempted NCIS, NCIS Los Angeles and Vegas tonight for continuing coverage on the major fire in downtown Kansas City. A justified preemption.

Hundreds of people commented on their Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/KCTV5?ref=ts&fref=ts

People were mad. This was one commenter.

Please NCIS and NCIS los angeles will nott come on again which is not fair we KNOW there is a fire and we feel sorry for happened to JJ's and to the people but please put NCIS and NCIS LOS ANGELES please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please.

Title: Re: They preempted that for this?
Post by: Suncoast Bull on March 01, 2013, 09:58:36 AM

Quote from: falcons29 on March 01, 2013, 09:24:23 AM

Quote from: Suncoast Bull on March 01, 2013, 09:06:11 AM

Quote from: falcons29 on March 01, 2013, 09:01:22 AM

Quote from: BD Sullivan on February 28, 2013, 10:04:15 PM
WKYC in Cleveland has tonight decided to preempt the 9-11 p.m. block of NBC network programs--all reruns. Their replacement--a two-hour rerun of ..........Matlock!

I wonder how many complaints WKYC got for their preemptions of the 9-11 pm NBC shows. It was probably common to do that in the last century but to do that now seems insane.

If the viewers who complained to Channel 3 thought that was bad, this is only Act 1. Act 2 will happen this Thursday. This time, it'll be Matlock: The Heist.
http://www.wkyc.com/entertainment/a...ING-ALERT--Changes-to-tonights-Prime-Schedule

P.S.: I just looked at Channel 3's Facebook Timeline and many viewers are pissed the hell off.

I read one comment from a viewer asking WKYC why they pulled the shows and WKYC telling them that the ratings for the NBC shows were so poor that they were trying to get some ratings points back by airing an old episode of Matlock.

I knew things were bad for the Peacock aside from sports, but bad enough for one of its biggest affiliates to pull a stunt like that? I wonder how much tolerance the network has for this type of preemption these days compared to the '70s and '80s, when it had so little tolerance for it that it got to a point where it decided that it needed an O&O in the then-burgeoning Miami DMA in the late '80s to prevent it from happening aside from sports, telethons and breaking news.

 

[mvcg66b3r]

http://506sports.com/forum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=3583.0

Title: Re: They preempted that for this?
Post by: RT on March 05, 2013, 12:47:16 PM

Quote from: jdelachjr2002 on March 05, 2013, 02:06:51 AM

Quote from: pstokely on March 05, 2013, 12:31:19 AM
In St. Louis, KMOV preempted a rerun of "How I met your mother" with some grocery store infomercial, haven't heard any complaints

And on Wednesday they're airing a Humane Society Telethon in place of "Criminal Minds" and "CSI" both of which are also repeats ("Survivor" airs as scheduled). However both shows have been delayed to 1:05 AM while "How I Met Your Mother" was not rescheduled. CBS can't be too happy about that.

It just shows how some Affiliates think of the network programing now (feel they can do better if they preempt it in favor of local programing)

Title: Re: They preempted that for this?
Post by: jdelachjr2002 on May 28, 2013, 06:03:21 PM

Quote from: elfuego35 on May 28, 2013, 05:20:27 PM

Quote from: JamesCraven on May 28, 2013, 03:15:31 PM
Meanwhile, as noted in two other thread, NBC's Monaco Grand Prix was preempted in Houston, Indy and in the Carolinas.

Unless another affiliate completely preempted it in the Carolinas, WITN (Greenville North Carolina) aired the race from 9:00 until Conclusion. Said station also will preempt NBC programming scheduled until 6:30, including yes the French Open, for a Telethon this coming Sunday

Children's Miracle Network? Yes. It's airing in Tampa preempting the French Open as well (always seem victimized by the Telethon every year). WFLA will air the Bruins-Penguins NHL game on Saturday though.

Title: Re: They preempted that for this?
Post by: cowboybud on November 20, 2013, 09:30:35 PM
WFAA is bumping General Hospital to overnight on Friday for the 1 to 3 p.m. broadcast of 1963 Kennedy assassination coverage. The predictable hilarity
ensues:

"Every time someone says, "BOO" they prempt General Hospital"
"I'm not a General Hospital fan, but why does Dallas drop everything for this yankee?"
"Uh that sucks. No DVR. Mad house wife can't stay up late to watch MY show."
"Only in Dallas....Let's disprupt everybody"s Friday afternoon to celebrate a man's death..."

https://www.facebook.com/wfaachannel8/posts/10151774508301545

(They never did answer my question regarding it being streamed)

Title: Re: They preempted that for this?
Post by: exposforever on November 24, 2013, 10:19:23 PM

Quote from: Rube Dali, the DodoHorse on November 24, 2013, 10:17:04 PM

Quote from: NYSportsFan on November 24, 2013, 10:13:55 PM

Quote from: NPBearsFan on November 24, 2013, 10:08:22 PM
WBFF in Baltimore today preempted the 4-4:25 NFL Pregame show and yes, the first 2:03 of the Cowboys-Giants game to show an infomercial on the Ninja Juice Blender. And after the infomercial ended, they showed like 4-5 ads. Can't wait, if we get one, what WBFF's excuse was.

I'd love to hear this one too.

I think we have a new champion in the "worst preemption ever" league.

Worse than the Heidi Game?

There have been NHL playoff games preempted by infomercials in overtime. Obviously it's a problem to preempt any part of the game, but better the beginning of the game than the end.

 

[mvcg66b3r]

Title: Re: They preempted that for this?
Post by: sctvhound on January 10, 2014, 12:41:52 PM
On Wednesday night, WSAZ in Huntington picked up the Mississippi State/Kentucky game for air on their station at 8pm. It preempted Revolution and Law and Order: SVU. Their KY viewers were happy, but the rest were not. The two other shows were delayed till 2:05 and 3:05am respectively. Tons of complaints from WV and OH viewers.

Comments:
Roy: That's bull this is a winter season premier for SVU most People will be in bed at 2:05 and 3:05 and we have to wait 24-hours to 7 days for it to be online why can't the game be aired on myztv and continue regular programming on wsaz.

Colleen: Unacceptable!!! Absolutely these must air at regular scheduled time! People have been waiting for these premieres!!

Howie: thanks for ruining the whole season of Revolution

Melissa: I am SO upset that this decision has been made! I have been waiting/anticipating the SVU. One of the two could have been shown on your MyZ to keep people from missing whichever one they wanted. Horrible decision!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cindy: Totally upset over this decision. Not much on TV nowadays and to preempt shows for a basketball game that doesn't even involve our state was a poor decision. I don't do DVR or VCR or satellite. I rely on my stations to play what is advertised and channel 3 failed me tonight. I will boycott their news station from now on. I have watched their news station for at least 40+ years. No more channel 3. You have 2 stations and you should really consider playing all sports games on your other channel. Who ever is making these kind of decisions should be transferred to another department as they are not very wise....

Post by: sctvhound on January 20, 2014, 09:05:47 PM
The CBS in Colorado Springs, KKTV, lost the feed for the Broncos game for five minutes yesterday.

http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2014...tml?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

As expected, people freaked out.

Bridget: GRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!! I vote that KKTV/CBS never get a game again!!!

Michael: You guys suck this station is garbage I'd rather watch the broncos play on fox at least we would get to see it

Andrew: Thanks OBAMA. This didn't happen when Bush was president

Pat: Don't worry, you just missed the first score of the game.

Can we please stop having games on the broadcast networks? Not to mention Phil Simms is a complete jerk when it comes to the Broncos. Oh how I long for the days when live streaming puts networks out of this business.

Tami: IT'S A CHAMPIONSHIP GAME!! WE NEED CHAMPIONSHIP COVERAGE!!

And this is one of my posts:

Title: Re: They preempted that for this?
Post by: mvcg66b3r on January 26, 2014, 12:09:03 PM
In Central Illinois, WICS/WICD are preempting ABC's NBA doubleheader today (1/26) for a United Cerebral Palsy telethon. Why couldn't their LMA partner (Fox Illinois or CW23) pick up the games?

Title: Re: They preempted that for this?
Post by: Scrabbleship on January 26, 2014, 01:41:09 PM

Quote from: mvcg66b3r on January 26, 2014, 12:09:03 PM
In Central Illinois, WICS/WICD are preempting ABC's NBA doubleheader today (1/26) for a United Cerebral Palsy telethon. Why couldn't their LMA partner (Fox Illinois or CW23) pick up the games?

It might be because of limitations of JSA/SSA arrangements (WRSP/WCCU and WBUI are still legally owned by their pre-Sinclair owners) in terms of airing programming bumped from a parent station. What I don't get is if Sinclair has three stations to play around with, why not put the telethon on one of the other two that has no commitments?

 

[danderson4411]

I've previously mentioned a couple: in 1991 WXII Winston-Salem
pre-empted NBC's coverage of an AFC playoff game because of a
prior commitment to ACC basketball; CBS affiliate WFMY stepped in
and carried the football game.

In 1972 WSB routinely pre-empted the second game of NBC's AFC
doubleheaders (regardless of whether or not the Falcons were on
WAGA on any given Sunday) in order to accommodate Lawrence Welk.
Ted Turner (in his "the NBC network moves to Channel 17" days) stepped
in and aired the second game. That practice ended after that season;
WSB started airing Welk on Saturdays during football season and Sundays
the rest of the year, until it switched to ABC and a conflict with "Wide World
Of Sports" forced the station to drop Welk.

could have the acc game aired on wfmy?

 

[danderson4411]

off topic but Lawrence Welk always aired on wlos following college football?

 

[installLSC]

Single episode pre-emptions

On this board we've had numerous threads of shows that were not shown on a given station due to content issues. The early episodes of "NYPD Blue" is the most famous. But what about shows that were normally carried, while having just one episode pre-empted for content issues? For starters, this episode of Marcus Welby MD was not aired by 17 stations due to its treatment of homosexuality. What examples do you have?

 

[danderson4411]

or what about preempted because a sports event ran way overtime?