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They preempted that for this?

Family Guy "When You Wish Upon a Weinstein" Should have aired in 2002 on FOX but was 1st shown on Adult Swim and edited instead....Had a lunch viewing at work on VHS......(company owner was Jewish and VERY discriminatory...if you were NOT Jewish, he would treat you like dirt)....we locked the door in the conference room and watched it on the TV in there...owner walked past several times (all glass) but the TV was facing away from him...

Hell I was raised Catholic and thought the jokes on the Catholic church were hilarious!!! "Lock and Load brides of Christ!" and the Penguin outside as the nuns load the bus.........and then the rulers...SOOOO true ;)

One of the girls finally snapped to it and really got scared thinking the owner would come in and fire us all...I told her good luck...we were merely watching an animated show...none of us were saying anything illegal!!
 
I've posted before about how that WMC in Memphis was notorious for pre-empting or delaying NBC shows on a regular basis from the late 70's until the early 90's, but they would also pre-empt episodes of shows they normally carried for local news documentaries. There were times in the 80's that they would even pre-empt an episode of one of NBC's top rated shows like Cosby or Cheers for them. Viewers would howl but they were generally ignored by the station management who apparently didn't care what the viewers thought. :mad:
 
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I've posted before about how that WMC in Memphis was notorious for pre-empting or delaying NBC shows on a regular basis from the late 70's until the early 90's, but they would also pre-empt episodes of shows they normally carried for local news documentaries. There were times in the 80's that they would even pre-empt an episode of one of NBC's top rated shows like Cosby or Cheers for them. Viewers would howl but they were generally ignored by the station management who apparently didn't care what the viewers thought. :mad:
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Or WPSD in Paducah, which (at least back during that time frame) was only NBC when it was convenient for them to be. They once pre-empted the entire "must-see TV" on Thursday night (although it was not called that at the time) for University of Kentucky basketball. They delayed Saturday Night Live by an hour for close to 20 years. But even that was apparently the result of a compromise, because they originally did not carry it at all! So I really didn't see SNL until the '80s, when I was old enough to stay up late enough to watch it anyway.

And WPSD is apparently STILL second-rate. They had power outages and other screwups which interrupted the Super Bowl!
 
Back in 1962, The Defenders episode, "The Benefactor" was either preempted or shown late by many stations because the father-son legal team was defending an abortion doctor.
 
Forgive me if this was already mentioned somewhere in the preceding 392 posts (I scanned the thread and didn't see it), but remember the furor in 1977 over "Soap", where some ABC affiliates refused the program, sight unseen, and others delayed it until after the late news?

My recollection was that the major "problem" the affiliates had was that Billy Crystal's character was gay and planned to have a sex change to be with his football player partner.

Oh, and what about "Turn On", same network, about a decade earlier, which some affiliates pulled the plug on midway through the first telecast and which ABC itself never ran on the west coast because the sponsor called to cancel between the east and west air times?
 
K.M. Richards said:
Oh, and what about "Turn On", same network, about a decade earlier, which some affiliates pulled the plug on midway through the first telecast and which ABC itself never ran on the west coast because the sponsor called to cancel between the east and west air times?
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A similar thing happened in Australia:

Australia's Naughtiest Home Videos (September 4, 1992)

A one-off special which was a spin-off from Australia's Funniest Home Video Show, hosted by Doug Mulray. Kerry Packer, owner of the Nine Network, was informed of the show's content by friends at a dinner; he tuned in to watch the show on TCN-9, and was so offended by its content that he phoned the studio operators and shouted: "Get that s*** off the air!" After a commercial break, the network cut to a rerun of Cheers citing technical difficulties. It was eventually shown after Packer's death in a repackaged version on August 28, 2008.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...eled_before_the_first_episode_finished_airing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia's_Naughtiest_Home_Videos
 
The networks provide programming for the locals affiliates, who can take it or not....its their right....but running a local show makes them more $$$$

So guess what they will do? :cool:
 
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No, they shouldn't. They are not all-powerful, supreme entities who can dictate every nuance of how another company needs to run its business.
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ContinuousWave said:
The networks provide programming for the locals affiliates, who can take it or not....its their right....but running a local show makes them more $$$$

So guess what they will do? :cool:
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I'll just say this: Pre-emptions for emergencies, special local events, and even moral objections of the community can possibly be justified. But running infomercials in prime time because the station thinks they can make more money that way are totally inexcusable and the networks should be allowed to put a stop to it.

If nothing else it looks to me like future contracts between the networks and local stations could limit the amount of time that could be pre-empted and include clauses that pre-emptions for infomercials will not be allowed at any time.
 
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Forgive me if this was already mentioned somewhere in the preceding 392 posts (I scanned the thread and didn't see it), but remember the furor in 1977 over "Soap", where some ABC affiliates refused the program, sight unseen, and others delayed it until after the late news?
My recollection was that the major "problem" the affiliates had was that Billy Crystal's character was gay and planned to have a sex change to be with his football player partner.
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Channel 7 in Jackson, TN, pre-empted Soap and aired The Gong Show in its place. As a 13/14-year-old at the time, I actually liked that better! Not sure if there was a syndicated Gong Show out there somewhere, but I usually could not get home from school in time to see the NBC version on channel 6 in Paducah.

In the '80s, channel 7 routinely pre-empted whatever ABC prime-time programming would have been on at the time with Solid Gold. As a teenager at that time, needless to say, I liked that better!
 
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If nothing else it looks to me like future contracts between the networks and local stations could limit the amount of time that could be pre-empted and include clauses that pre-emptions for infomercials will not be allowed at any time.
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Network affiliation contracts already have provisions for preemptions. Typically, a station is allowed a certain amount of prime-time preemptions per year. The amount of preemptions allowed varies from network to network and station to station. Restrictions on preemptions are much tighter now than they were 20 or 30 years ago. Back in the day, some of the more flagrant affiliates might preempt upwards of 100 prime-time hours per year. These days, I think the most lenient contracts allow around 20 or so hours of prime-time preemptions per year.

I agree that running infomercials in prime-time is tacky. I doubt the networks are allowed to dictate what type of program a station can use to replace a network show as long as the station doesn't go over the number of preemptions allowed. Most CBS contracts now require that whatever is preempted (in prime-time) must be at least aired in the overnight hours on the night the show is preempted or in some other time period mutually agreed to by the affiliate and network. Back in the day, the vast majority of preempted shows were just outright preempted and not shown on a delay.
 
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If nothing else it looks to me like future contracts between the networks and local stations could limit the amount of time that could be pre-empted and include clauses that pre-emptions for infomercials will not be allowed at any time.
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What you think should happen and what will happen (see earlier comment about the networks not interfering in affiliates' business decisions) are two different things. We get your point. Please move on.
 
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Channel 7 in Jackson, TN, pre-empted Soap and aired The Gong Show in its place. As a 13/14-year-old at the time, I actually liked that better! Not sure if there was a syndicated Gong Show out there somewhere, but I usually could not get home from school in time to see the NBC version on channel 6 in Paducah.

In the '80s, channel 7 routinely pre-empted whatever ABC prime-time programming would have been on at the time with Solid Gold. As a teenager at that time, needless to say, I liked that better!
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Yes, there was a syndicated weekly nighttime Gong Show, and Gary Owens (RIP) was the host of the first season. This was posted at the other forum in the thread about his passing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwnjVljTxbY Chuck Barris took over as host of the nighttime version in later seasons.

I know I probably brought this up earlier in this thread but there were some pre-emptions I didn't mind. WREG in Memphis pre-empted CBS's late night programming in the 80's and early 90's, at first for local late movies, and then later for reruns of MASH and Cheers, until David Letterman moved to CBS in 1993. Also, WMC pre-empted Notre Dame football and carried the syndicated SEC network games in the early 90's until they moved to WLMT. So I'm not totally against pre-emptions, but they have to be for something I definitely like better.
 
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I know I probably brought this up earlier in this thread but there were some pre-emptions I didn't mind. WREG in Memphis pre-empted CBS's late night programming in the 80's and early 90's, at first for local late movies, and then later for reruns of MASH and Cheers, until David Letterman moved to CBS in 1993. Also, WMC pre-empted Notre Dame football and carried the syndicated SEC network games in the early 90's until they moved to WLMT. So I'm not totally against pre-emptions, but they have to be for something I definitely like better.
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1. WREG was certainly not the only CBS affiliate to pre-empt the post-late news network programming. Late night programming was always optional in those days and stations wouldn't get dinged at all for running local programming instead. I read somewhere at the time that this was the reason Pat Sajak's late night show ultimately failed ... lack of clearances.

2. Please, get over the notion that it's all about you and what you like. As has been stated by several people, every time you bring it up, stations are free to make whatever business decisions they want. If you don't like what they're doing, change the channel. Complaining on a message board not only isn't going to change the status quo, it makes you look like a "Johnny one note" every time you post it.
 


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