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"Thunder" back...on 94.5 translator in Pinellas??

CC is running its classic rock channel on the 94.5 translator in Pinellas County. JUST IDed as WMTX-HD2//105.9 Tampa//94.5 St. Pete. Classic rock is indeed on 100.7 HD2 now as well.
 
Confirming it was on at 5pm on my drive home, @ 105.9FM. Didn't hear an ID though.. After about three classic rock songs in a row I knew it wasn't 98 Rock, so I had a hunch...tuned in 103.5 HD2 and sure enough... same Doors song playing.

And the frequency sure seems to be removed from 970's website, except for the one article describing the translator.

Why so much coverage yet still ending up weak in the end? You're saying the ID was 100.7 HD2, 94.5 and 105.9 TXs and still at 103.5 HD2? Good grief.

Honestly spoken word format on 105.9 was probably better a idea though, as the translator is just fuzzy, and cuts in and out while you're driving as it bleeds in and out with WOCL and Sarasota. Makes a music format sound like a mess in the process.

Byron
 
Why the heck would they involve 100.7 HD2? It was already on 103.5 HD2. I'm not understanding the logic here at all.
 
They are adding more ID's; just heard "Thunder across the Bay, at 105.9 Tampa and 94.5 St. Pete". The whole 100.7 HD2 thing makes zero sense to me.
 
billalm said:
Why the heck would they involve 100.7 HD2? It was already on 103.5 HD2. I'm not understanding the logic here at all.
It might involve a more powerful signal on 100.7 since 103.5 had to lower power so much when they all moved to the higher tower two years ago. The lower power may have taken away from the signal FCC's requirements for covering Pinellas County from Riverview.

It was reported 6 months ago, that 105.9 and 94.5 would be translating 970 signal. It looks as though it was just taking longer for the 94.5.

Several years ago, 98Rock was blaring through my radio one morning when AMTB was supposed to be on. It lasted for about an hour. I came to the conclusion that they were experimenting with taking the audio from the 97.9 HD-2, and feeding the 970 signal so that if somebody was switching back and forth, they would not experience the 35 second delay that is "normal" with the 97.9 HD-2 audio. It was probably going ok until the radio lost enough of the signal and took on the audio of the main channel.

If anybody remembers that, I would appreciate clarifying any errors.

I made a suggestion that 106.5 hd-x might work for the Southern coverage to Sa-ra-so-ta!, but that signal starts to fall apart South of Bee Ridge, so I guess that won't work.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
I'm not currently in the metro, so I can't tell if with the new programming on 94.5, if they've moved to the new tower location and have increased the power from 10 to 250 watts. Where I am now 105.9 is solid WOCL Orlando and 94.5 is solid with WCFB Orlando.

That said, with Thunder Across the Bay being available so many ways OTA analogue FM in the metro and on two HD2 channels, wouldn't that be competing with their own 97Rock?? unless................................................................. the rumor that has been circulating for several years is about to come true.

drt
 
Maybe they've decided that they don't wanna do the WFLA simulcast on the translators and just go all out with a switch to a full power FM... on 100.7. Let's assume now that 98Rock probably isn't going anywhere. Mix has already cross promoted FLZ so let's assume that 100.7 is gonna be available for WFLA at some point. So they yank the 105.9FM simulcast, upset people that were listening to it, and then come back with a "hey we're gonna put WFLA on 100.7 so everyone in Tampa Bay gets it clear and in one place." The only thing I still can't figure out is why Thunder's main signal can't stay on 103.5 unless it has something to do with the licensing of the translators. I'd bet that it has something to do with both 103.5 WFUS and 94.5 W233AV both being licensed to Gulfport. Rules probably won't allow 94.5 to relay 103.5 because well.... translators are by rule "fill in coverage" and why would you need to fill in coverage from 103.5 when it's licensed to Gulfport to begin with.

I think it's pretty obvious they're gonna go with Thunder on the 2 translators. I'm just surprised they're not making all the programming changes at once.
 
Thunder is not simulcasting on both hds. Although, both times I sampled them, they were playing two different Journey songs and two Stones songs.

They are also I'd-ing on 100.7-2 for 105.9.

"Thunder Across the Bay"

These are two different stations. 103.5-2 is still just "Thunder"

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
Yes they are Jeff. Identical programming is currently on 100.7 HD-2 and 103.5 HD-2. I just checked it.

Well... let me clarify, they're all playing the iHeart Radio classic rock station. However the original 103.5 HD-2 ID's and imaging are still triggering on 103.5 HD-2 as they have been for years on THAT signal.... not the new ones.
 
Here in n.e. Eastern Hernando county, where I can receive about half of the Orlando's HD2's and about 2/3rd of the Tampa Bay HD2's, the two times I sampled last night, I heard Thunder on both 100.7HD2 as well as 103.5HD2; several times late last night sampling three or four times over an hour's period, they were playing the same songs; not I haven't turned on the HD radio this morning, maybe this morning it's a different story.

Also in the Orlando market, full signal WCFB- urban contemporary (sounds like the old WTMP) has changed it's HD2 from urban gospel to rebroadcast one of their full signal (class B) stations.......... WMNO; strange things seem to be happening in both markets as far as what is being programmed on the HD2 signals.

The other strange thing is that even though WFUS's power is about 1/3 less than 100.7 (WMTX?), up here the reception of 103.5's analogue signal seems stronger and their HD2 signal is consistly there, whereas 100.7's HD2 signal is sometimes MIA in this area near Webster; yet both 100.7 and 103.5 have a HAAT of 1549 feet.

I'm perplexed, I suppose someone on this board knows what is going on, and that's not me; I'm just speculating on what many others have been speculating for a year or so.

drt
 
Since Mix is basically currents and sounds pretty much like 993, you really think its done for? And why put classic rock on these stations unless its because Mix is basically CHR?
 
billalm said:
Yes they are Jeff. Identical programming is currently on 100.7 HD-2 and 103.5 HD-2. I just checked it.

Well... let me clarify, they're all playing the iHeart Radio classic rock station. However the original 103.5 HD-2 ID's and imaging are still triggering on 103.5 HD-2 as they have been for years on THAT signal.... not the new ones.
Perception is the reality.

Although the events being triggered agent changed, yet, having a delay between each other certainly gives that perception of wo different, but similarly programmed, stations.

We are, after all, talking HD - the invisible radio.

Another thing is I am not receiving any HD from 97.9.

Things are in flux, so we will just have to see how it all shakes out.

How about the former occupant of 100.7-2, Pride Radio?

More fun times!

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
MsMusicRadio said:
Since Mix is basically currents and sounds pretty much like 993, you really think its done for? And why put classic rock on these stations unless its because Mix is basically CHR?
Mix is essentially a Hot AC whereas FLZ is a Full-Blown CHR. They are two distict formats targeting different audiences, some which overlap, although Hot AC takes from the AC charts along with The CHR's.

I usually like to think of the Hot AC format as that station that a mother and daughter can listen to without driving one or the other krazy. As the Mother still wants to feel "hip" and the daughter can hear some of the songs she likes, too.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
I agree. My daughter and I can both listen to Mix, Magic, Hot, and FLZ. She like 94.1 and 95.7 too. I like Q and the Dove. However, I used to think Mix was Hot AC , but I'm not hearing any Mix. I just hear the same music on FLZ and Hot. I heard Mumford on FLZ and CHR must really be evoving
 
103.5-2 was 2-3 minutes behind 100.7-2.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
The Facebook logo is curiously missing the "105.9" on the logo.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
Wow, that means I have to get a new pre-set for my HD radio. I wonder what's coming up next. NASH radio?
 
We don't have a Cumulus station here...yet.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
This morning as I left home (in St. Pete, a mile from GULFPORT), Thunder 94.5 was being trampled by Star 94.5 in Orlando, thus making our new local classic rocker unlistenable. Yeah, I'm sure THIS will be a huge ratings monster for CC. Why even bother? I can just flip over to iHeartRadio's Classic Rock Channel online if I want to hear that narrow, tired playlist anyway. ::)
 
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