• Get involved.
    We want your input!
    Apply for Membership and join the conversations about everything related to broadcasting.

    After we receive your registration, a moderator will review it. After your registration is approved, you will be permitted to post.
    If you use a disposable or false email address, your registration will be rejected.

    After your membership is approved, please take a minute to tell us a little bit about yourself.
    https://www.radiodiscussions.com/forums/introduce-yourself.1088/

    Thanks in advance and have fun!
    RadioDiscussions Administrators

Tim Conway Jr., KABC part company/Update

robnokshus06 said:
Quote from: robnokshus06 on Today at 12:51:36 am
Quote
Podcasts are great. Adam Carolla has zoomed to #1 on iTunes or did you miss that thread?

Adam Carolla's podcast is number one at iTunes. Frosty Heidi and Frank Uncensored is number three and the Conway and Whitman podcast is number 53. In the comedy category its Carolla #1, FHFU #2 and C&W #14.

These talents can now do their shows unfettered by corporate interference. They create on demand programming in bite sized chunks that fit today's shorter attention spans. No need to draw out a topic because you have 4-hours to fill, no FCC rules to tell you what you can and cannot say. I have a feeling that the former talk hosts of KLSX will be thanking CBS soon for doing them a huge favor.

By the time CBS is done paying out their contracts they will have established loyal podcasting audiences that they will then be able to monetize either via a small subscription fee, ad insertion or product placement. Meanwhile CBS will still be facing a 1.5 billion dollar debt payment next year and more than likely a new set of performance royalties for the music they replaced these hosts with.

Adam, FHF and C&W may very well have NO desire to return to radio by then.

There's only one big question. How do you make money off those podcasts now as the costs aren't low to produce them (now is the key word)? Whitman already dropped his subscription fee. I really don't see a subscription model as working. People will accept spots or maybe live reads (John & Ken and Bill Handel on KFI do a ton of live read spots and they work well). I'm not aware of product placement being used in radio talk shows.
Click to expand...

Actually, the costs are quite low to produce a podcast once you have the initial hardware, mics and recording software. A podcast is really only a large mp3 file and doesn't require the same infrastructure as streaming.

You aren't aware of product placement in "radio" talk shows because, unless they are disclaimed as advertising, they would be illegal (I'm fairly sure) but we aren't talking about RADIO talk shows, we're talking about podcasts! "Live" reads by talent, especially someone like Adam, woven seamlessly into the conversation could be quite effective. As for subscriptions, in a recent LA Radio story it was recounted how Jamie Jack and Stench have over 2,000 listeners that pay 5-dollars a month to subscribe to their daily, roughly hour long podcast. You do the math. This IS happening now.
Click to expand...
Lets take the "King of All Media" or the former king of all media, which is more like it. Stern use to be in the limelight constantly. With his limited subcription (I know it isn't a podcast) exposure on Sirius, he's just not talked about anymore. That's uppermost in my mind. A subscription will limit you, no matter who you are. Right now, I would think is an exceptionally bad time for a subscription model.

Not knocking podcasts, just the idea of subscriptions. Not only the model but for your career.

Here's the article, again, on Carolla's podcast. It says it costs him about $2K per month to do the show. http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/sunday/la-oe-stein6-2009mar06,1,4616454.column
 
$2,000 a month? That is unreal! Obviously he's not doing a lot of the work himself.
 
Will be on KFI this Sunday from 2-5 PM for a one-time tryout.
 
The reason it costs so much is bandwidth. I'm not sure how free podcasts work on i-tunes, but Adam hosts the podcasts on his own site as well, which is where I get them and he has to pay the bandwidth costs there. Production costs nothing.

Subscritpions have the primary problem of people bothering with them. Once you direct your listeners to podcasts, they'll discover that there's tons of other free content. Something that is pretty popular will quickly turn up on torrents for free if you start charging for it--and as importantly, less will be less of a hassle than digging out your credit card and subscribing. Subscriptions can still make good money, I think, but someone like Adam is not going to reach as wide an audience as he wants.

I don't see any reason he can't do a show "brought to you by Valtrex" and through in a couple of those commercials--I'm sure there's a name for them but I don't know it--where the host keeps up his act and endorses the product in an entertaining way.
 
Marilove said:
The reason it costs so much is bandwidth. I'm not sure how free podcasts work on i-tunes, but Adam hosts the podcasts on his own site as well, which is where I get them and he has to pay the bandwidth costs there. Production costs nothing.

Subscritpions have the primary problem of people bothering with them. Once you direct your listeners to podcasts, they'll discover that there's tons of other free content. Something that is pretty popular will quickly turn up on torrents for free if you start charging for it--and as importantly, less will be less of a hassle than digging out your credit card and subscribing. Subscriptions can still make good money, I think, but someone like Adam is not going to reach as wide an audience as he wants.

I don't see any reason he can't do a show "brought to you by Valtrex" and through in a couple of those commercials--I'm sure there's a name for them but I don't know it--where the host keeps up his act and endorses the product in an entertaining way.
Click to expand...
FYI on Adam Carolla. This latest story says it is costing him about $3000 per month. http://www.macnewsworld.com/rsstory/66641.html
 
nmoore6676 said:
I hope KFI keeps Tim Conway and gets rid of Suits. He is good, after two hours I'm still listening and not bored or annoyed.
Click to expand...
Sounds like KFI told him to leave his kid saying "Jesus Christ" sound fx at home. He's just running a typical AM talk show interspersed with his own personal spin (which is where his personality shines). He has all ready told his growing up at the track story and how he now takes his daughter with him occasionally. I don't know if KFI has him on a short leash or he's really trying not to get canned like his stint at KABC but he is being entertaining.

Who is he guest hosting for? I don't listen to KFI on the weekends other than catching Leo Laporte every once and a while.
 
Robnoxious said:
nmoore6676 said:
I hope KFI keeps Tim Conway and gets rid of Suits. He is good, after two hours I'm still listening and not bored or annoyed.
Click to expand...
Sounds like KFI told him to leave his kid saying "Jesus Christ" sound fx at home. He's just running a typical AM talk show interspersed with his own personal spin (which is where his personality shines). He has all ready told his growing up at the track story and how he now takes his daughter with him occasionally. I don't know if KFI has him on a short leash or he's really trying not to get canned like his stint at KABC but he is being entertaining.

Who is he guest hosting for? I don't listen to KFI on the weekends other than catching Leo Laporte every once and a while.
Click to expand...

The KFI Web Site has Sunday 3-5 as "Local Guest Host". Yes I would say that he seemed to be on a leash but still entertaining. I wonder why he didn't just so that at KABC but maybe there was more there than reported. Since I hear Glenn Beck constantly saying the A word for posterior and the vernacular for urination I am not sure why everyone is so uptight. Some words by constant usage have lost their shock value since George Carlin listed the seven deemed unfit for broadcast.

The super offensive “F” word that was really verboten when I was growing up is now the ubiquitous modifier even for elementary age kids, girls and boys. In my far distant younger years we were very careful to never ever utter that one in the presence of adults. Other slips would be admonished with a “I’m going to wash your mouth out with soap” but that one would have caused Dad to grab his belt.

In that vein I really liked Tim’s telling of his Dad’s trust and letting him drive a car at 15 and giving him a pump BB gun. I remember my late father being the same way. You can discipline your kids and still let them have some trust once in a while. It is that measured out relaxing of rules and accountability that makes all of us older people responsible and self sufficient. His topics were good but likely deliberately non controversial, a good show to my ears.
 
Congrats to Mr Conway! Hopefully they can get Whitman in there with Conway for a test run of an AM version of their show.. I can only imagine how popular they could get doing KFI nights as both of those guys have amazing chemstry.
 
4UH8SIMBKAGN said:
Robnoxious said:
4UH8SIMBKAGN said:
Tim Conway Jr. Passes His Test at KFI (will be filling in Wed, Thurs, Fri for Bryan Suits): http://www.ocregister.com/articles/kfi-conway-suits-2350119-afternoon-weekend
Click to expand...
Does that mean he's going to be joined with Kennedy? Tim is more than capable of flying solo as was proven last Sunday. Either way, KFI was smart with keeping Timmy around.
Click to expand...
She's on maternity leave. Brian Suits is flying solo currently.
Click to expand...

Tim was on in the Kennedy and Suits time last night (Wednesday) while Kennedy is on leave and Suits is sitting in for John and Ken. The quality of the show is day and night, I listened very rarely since Ziegler was ousted but I have heard enough to know that it was bad. Hopefully Ms. Bertolucci will hear what I do and make the change. I especially enjoyed the "News Bender" segment at the end with newsman Aron Bender.

Tim Conway returns tonight and Friday.
 
Status
This thread has been closed due to inactivity. You can create a new thread to discuss this topic.


Back
Top Bottom