DAVE has failed. O&A would give 92.9 higher ratings.
Does anything else really matter?
Does anything else really matter?
-
Get involved.
We want your input!
Apply for Membership and join the conversations about everything related to broadcasting.
After we receive your registration, a moderator will review it. After your registration is approved, you will be permitted to post.
If you use a disposable or false email address, your registration will be rejected.
After your membership is approved, please take a minute to tell us a little bit about yourself.
https://www.radiodiscussions.com/forums/introduce-yourself.1088/
Thanks in advance and have fun!
RadioDiscussions Administrators
Time for O&A in Atlanta
- Thread starter TheGreenskeeper
- Start date
Deadman, did you get a new account?
Dave is crap, but as long as V is making enough money for both (or three with WAOK), you probably won't see anything happen. Free FM as a format is done for. Dan Mason doesn't like it, and one by one they're dying.
Dave is crap, but as long as V is making enough money for both (or three with WAOK), you probably won't see anything happen. Free FM as a format is done for. Dan Mason doesn't like it, and one by one they're dying.
I think it would be a good move for CBS. They already have a loyal fan base in Atlanta who would listen on 93 instead of XM, and they would probably pull former RG listeners from exile.
Does anybody here honestly think that O&A would not post better numbers than DAVE?
Does anybody here honestly think that O&A would not post better numbers than DAVE?
They have a loyal fan base here???? This may be the dumbest statement I've read on this board in a long time. Aside from Deadman and you, how do you make the statement that O&A have a loyal Atlanta fan base? Yeah, DAVE needs a morning show, but O&A couldn't be a worse choice. Remember, they have to fit the format.DashRiprock said:
wooder said:
Dumbest? That's certainly saying a lot considering... ;D
I'd like to find out which one of us is right.
CBS already owns them and could easily try O&A in Atlanta, so what would they have to loose? Nothing. They're near the bottom of the heap with nowhere to go but up. Fit the format? ...they're near the bottom of the heap with nowhere to go but up.
Bottom line, they could try O&A for next to nothing and if it doesn't work they can try something else.
E
evnlee
Guest
wooder said:
I think it a liability issue: while Dave may have 'nowhere to go but up', it's not going to help them if they put OnA on and they get suspended 2 weeks after they debut....
If they are going to 'plug and play' a syndicted show for am drive, there are better options then OnA..
Plus, I'm not sure how the great unwashed here would take to an hour of berating some old broad from a New Jersey animal shelter, or listening to embedded commercials for the brother's restaurant and bar, or thier ongoing hatred of Stern....
Loyal fan base in Atlanta? Thats a good one.
Give it a try if it doesn't work try someone else. That has been the problem with 92.9 all along. No station changes morning shows more than them.
O and A is not the answer here. You would be better off rescuciating the Regular Guys. I hear Eric needs a job.
Give it a try if it doesn't work try someone else. That has been the problem with 92.9 all along. No station changes morning shows more than them.
O and A is not the answer here. You would be better off rescuciating the Regular Guys. I hear Eric needs a job.
RTibbs said:
A lot of Atlanta people call the show, and when I go to the shows of some of the comedians they have on, a lot of their fans show up. They have a lot of listeners here via XM, but it would probably stay that way if they were on FM here. Keep in mind: Syndicated morning shows don't work in Atlanta.
RTibbs said:
I'd like TRG back, but Von Haessler said "that's not gonna happen", Andrews is at X, and SSS is at Eagle. That leaves Wachs as a solo or with a new team.
I really do think there are many O&A fans in Atlanta. We'll just have to disagree on that point, but you have to agree that they would do better than the current show on 92.9.
A
AMCM
Guest
this is such a tired and dumb idea
AMCM said:
Tired? They have never been on Atlanta radio.
Dumb idea? How about DAVE?
RTibbs said:
And how would you know?
I stand by my statement. Higher ratings - does anything else really matter?
A
AMCM
Guest
TheGreenskeeper said:
stand by your untested statement. they wont be in atlanta [thank god] and we won't have to deal with their boring jabber. yes i have lisened to them before. yes i have a broad sense of humor. no i don't find them amusing in the least. i'd rather see the greaseman on dave before these jerks.
AMCM said:
Greaseman? Please tell me you're being sarcastic.
A
AMCM
Guest
DashRiprock said:
it males more sense when you read my entire sentance. "i'd rather see the greaseman on dave before these jerks." meaning that's how litle i want to see them in atlanta. yes. sarcasm. woo.
I think it's been well-proven that most of the people who post here don't really understand how radio works. That goes double for anyone who says O&A would be a good move for Dave.
1) Okay, sure, O&A might have a fanbase in Atlanta. But how on earth does that translate to "higher ratings" for Dave? Is that fanbase going to suddenly turn off XM to listen to O&A on Dave?
2) Dave intentionally leans female. That's because Atlanta as a market (as far as stations and formats) leans male. Unless Project or 99x flips, it would be stupid for CBS to turn Dave male and put O&A on in the morning. And I don't think anyone here believes that O&A would work on a female-leaning station. (If anything, I think there would be a strong argument for Dave transitioning more female, possibly something in the range of the "Sophie" thing they just started in San Diego.)
3) The truth is that the perfect station for O&A to be added to (if at all) would be Project. Of course, that ain't gonna happen so long as it's owned by Clear Channel.
4) History. Stern wanted into Atlanta in the worst way imaginable, even offering to cut his syndication fees to get in. Many analysts believed that were enough transplanted folks in the area who were former listeners in his other markets that he would do well. It didn't matter, and it didn't happen. And, just as a reminder - we're talking about the same station.
5) Plus what everyone else has pointed out: CBS isn't going to take a chance on a show that might not be on the air in a year. If O&A had proven results in new markets, that'd be one thing. But, to date, they haven't. Seriously - anyone who claims that O&A automatically brings "higher ratings" hasn't seen the numbers in the past year.
Plus, O&A is already readily available in Atlanta. Enough, already.
1) Okay, sure, O&A might have a fanbase in Atlanta. But how on earth does that translate to "higher ratings" for Dave? Is that fanbase going to suddenly turn off XM to listen to O&A on Dave?
2) Dave intentionally leans female. That's because Atlanta as a market (as far as stations and formats) leans male. Unless Project or 99x flips, it would be stupid for CBS to turn Dave male and put O&A on in the morning. And I don't think anyone here believes that O&A would work on a female-leaning station. (If anything, I think there would be a strong argument for Dave transitioning more female, possibly something in the range of the "Sophie" thing they just started in San Diego.)
3) The truth is that the perfect station for O&A to be added to (if at all) would be Project. Of course, that ain't gonna happen so long as it's owned by Clear Channel.
4) History. Stern wanted into Atlanta in the worst way imaginable, even offering to cut his syndication fees to get in. Many analysts believed that were enough transplanted folks in the area who were former listeners in his other markets that he would do well. It didn't matter, and it didn't happen. And, just as a reminder - we're talking about the same station.
5) Plus what everyone else has pointed out: CBS isn't going to take a chance on a show that might not be on the air in a year. If O&A had proven results in new markets, that'd be one thing. But, to date, they haven't. Seriously - anyone who claims that O&A automatically brings "higher ratings" hasn't seen the numbers in the past year.
Plus, O&A is already readily available in Atlanta. Enough, already.
I’ll be the first one to admit that I don't know how the radio business works, I just know it ain't working for me.
I’m just a listener who's tired of the same boring, targeted to women, ‘safe’ radio. I don't think O&A would be #1 in Atlanta, but they would do better than DAVE, and I would listen to 92.9 instead of XM just for the local traffic.
I’m just a listener who's tired of the same boring, targeted to women, ‘safe’ radio. I don't think O&A would be #1 in Atlanta, but they would do better than DAVE, and I would listen to 92.9 instead of XM just for the local traffic.
If Dave FM is slanted towards women, the natural morning show would be "Bob and Sheri", however, Star 94's owner, Lincoln Financial, owns the show and is probably keeping it for itself in the post Vikki Locke world that they find themselves in.
deadman said:
Am I the only one that thinks it's just a matter of time before DAVE flips?
- Status