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time for some new red sox announcers

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jane grant

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anyone ever see this petition?

http://www.petitiononline.com/geffner/petition.html

none of these announcers ever tell you the inning or the score. You literally have to wait for someone
to get a run in before they give the score.

castiglione, geffner, o'brien = horrendous

who wrote this junk: "It is a shame and a disservice to Mr. Castiglione and fans of baseball on the radio that he be subjected to working a majority of the season with an inferior broadcasting partner. Mr. Castiglione and baseball fans everywhere deserve a better fate."

It is a shame fans have to be subjected to sub-standard voices who can't call a game.

listen to The Patriots on tv or radio - or the Red Sox on TV if you're looking for clarity and professionalism.
 
I respectfully dissent. O'Brien is terrific. I'm was not crazy about Joe when he started years ago, but I've come to like him a lot. I don't think Glen is anywhere near as good.

Boston fans have been spoiled by some really fine radio talent over the years . . . Gowdy, Coleman, Martin, Woods, Miller, and Starr were all top-line guys.
 
I think O'Brien sounds quite good doing the Sox games.

Joey C, he is what he is, not the greatest voice, but a true fan.

Glenn Geffner is simply not up to the standard, in my mind, of what a play by play announcer should be.
 
none of these announcers ever tell you the inning or the score. You literally have to wait for someone
to get a run in before they give the score.
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This is so prevalent I don't think it's merely "bad announcing"...I think there's a general edict that the score/inning is not to be given unless necessary. It's a broadcasting tactic - force you keep listening for longer and longer. Makes you committed, more likely to keep listening through the breaks, thus driving up the value of the ad space. I know it sounds a little conspiracy-theory, but on reflection it strikes me as good business practice.

Doesn't mean it doesn't suck balls. By now if I just want to know the score, I check it online via my cellphone rather than sit and wait (and wait...and wait...and wait...and wait...and wait...and wait...and wait) for the play-by-play guys to say it. At least the WEEI 103.7FM listeners with RDS radios can see the score & inning that way.
 
I also have thought they don't always give the score because it gets/keeps you listening longer

Joe C and O'Brien both pretty good. Goofner usually fairly bad with his rambling and annoying
habits (that old "the run scores and the Red Sox are back to within 4 to 2 (sic)") but sometimes
he can do an exciting call of an important Sox play, etc.
 
Geffner lost me for good when the score was 3 to 1 in a particular game last week or the week before, the losing team got another run, and he says they were "on the board" at 3 to 2.

Wha.....?

"On the board" means you have scored your first run.

It's not just Geffner, though. I heard Medicoreperrell do the same thing during a BC game.

What are they teaching in broadcasting schools these days??
 
brassband said:
I respectfully dissent. O'Brien is terrific. I'm was not crazy about Joe when he started years ago, but I've come to like him a lot. I don't think Glen is anywhere near as good.

Boston fans have been spoiled by some really fine radio talent over the years . . . Gowdy, Coleman, Martin, Woods, Miller, and Starr were all top-line guys.
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I agree I like O' Brien but Castiglione is terrible. How about Sean Mc Donough and O' Brien in the radio booth? The only problem I see is they both have ESPN commitments which may preclude that.
 
>>"on the board"
maybe meant "they've put (another) run on the board"...but you're right it sounds bad the way he said it.
Lately I have heard announcers talk about a team "plating" a run (scoring a run...sending a runner
across home plate, thus...plating...)

Thanks to the Shaw's promotion, non Red Sox radio stations are airing ads with Joe's voice, like WODS
 
Listen to Jon Meterparel do a B.C. football game and you'll think the sox announcers are great. Meter is simply awful. He's trying to come up with signature phrases ("Take a bow", "Matty Heisman", "He's sailin' the boat", et al) and none of them work. He's also trying to use a different voice which doesn't work either.
 
Mickey37 said:
What are they teaching in broadcasting schools these days??
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Maybe you answered your own question. Perhaps broadcasters believe that you need school to be an entertainer, which is a folly. Then again, it's not a radio person that picked Geffner, it's an arrogant baseball executive who thinks that wealth = being smarter than everybody else.
 
It's obvious that the guy who hired poor mr. geffner had no idea what a good sports broadcaster sounds like. but it will look good on his resume.
 
Geffner's terrible, as I've said countless times. I still like Joe Castig. O'Brien's good although it's odd hearing him call the Sox one day and then a Yankees game on ESPN the next. If he commits to doing the Sox more or less full-time, that would be fine. If Sean McDonough was in the mix, I wouldn't mind that either. He's probably a bit too tart-tongued for the Sox brass.
 
dhoule hit the nail on the head. Castiglione is a nice guy but not a talented sports announcer. His voice is annoyingly grating and he makes more "errors" on the air than any infielder. Indeed, were Castiglione in the major leagues and scrutinized for every error he committed they would have bounced him long ago.

The two new guys have no identities to speak of, but their voices are pretty good. At least they aren't annoying like Castig. But they do fumble and stumble. that's why God made TV sets with audio. too bad we can't get the tv signals on the car radio, though.
 
Geffner has no presence at all. Zilch.

as for the TV guys, when they actually call the game, it's fine. Some banter is fine. When they keep going to Tina in the stands for some unnecessary footage that would be better seen on a pre-game show or hype the idiotic Red Sox nation debate or the execrable Sox Appeal program (obviously geared to the new Jill pink hat fans) or show all the signs (is this a baseball game or the WWE?) then it's not so pleasant. There was an obvious plant/set-up the other night. They showed a girl holding up a sign that had Remy pictured in the middle of a dollar bill with a red border around it and, lo and behold, the next commercial was for Sovereign Bank, with its red border motif and Remy shilling for it. Talk about obvious...
 
SonicAl said:
as for the TV guys, when they actually call the game, it's fine. Some banter is fine. When they keep going to Tina in the stands for some unnecessary footage that would be better seen on a pre-game show or hype the idiotic Red Sox nation debate or the execrable Sox Appeal program (obviously geared to the new Jill pink hat fans) or show all the signs (is this a baseball game or the WWE?) then it's not so pleasant. There was an obvious plant/set-up the other night. They showed a girl holding up a sign that had Remy pictured in the middle of a dollar bill with a red border around it and, lo and behold, the next commercial was for Sovereign Bank, with its red border motif and Remy shilling for it. Talk about obvious...
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DITTO HERE!!!

What I really can't stand is when they keep cutting to the Monster Seats to look in on a "Sox Appeal" date in between every single pitch. Once (I forget what game it was) it was so bad that someone hit a ball off the wall and the camera crew completely missed it (they were still looking in on the two lushes cavorting away in the Monster Seats)... Don't get me wrong, a little promotion is fine, but I mean c'mon, just give us the game!!!
 
Funny thing, I actually like Joe Castiglione's voice. He sounds like a baseball guy - and fits the bill of a "Red Sox baseball guy" quite well. No complaints from here - I find all three better than what's in the Yankees broadcast booth (and not just because I despise the Evil Empire...).
 
Funny thing, I actually like Joe Castiglione's voice.

Me, too. My wife, OTOH, finds him execrable . Of course, she's an accent-free Californian.

He sounds like a baseball guy - and fits the bill of a "Red Sox baseball guy" quite well.

Exactly. Boston loves idiosyncratic announcers, and it loves 'homers' (ie: Johnny Most, Heinsohn.) I think O'Brien has a great voice, but if he sticks with the neutral, laid-back approach that he, by necessity, takes with the ESPN game, he's going to be just another voice.

No complaints from here - I find all three better than what's in the Yankees broadcast booth (and not just because I despise the Evil Empire...).

And what's on in most of the country, the Yankees being a prime example.

Regards,
TSB
 
Joe is just fine (I've heard Mike Adams do an imitation, which is hysterical).

Sean McDonough's name keeps coming up . . . he's a TV guy, I've never heard him on the radio, but he might be OK too.

Geffner is rough around the edges.

My favorite Joe C. expression is the "crooked number" thing . . . never heard that anywhere else.

Dave O'B is great.

But, in my opinion, best of all time were Ned Martin and Jim Woods on the radio (remember the "Home Run Inning"?). Ned once did a post-season game on the radio on the network with the great Ernie Harwell. Very different styles, but terrific together.
 
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