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To the one's who mocked the cell phone

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You laughed that KEXP was the first to broadcast on a cell phone. Who would want that? What a joke, right?

Well, now the others follow....The difference being that instead of offering quality music for the sake of it, they are going to charge you for it. I say listen to KEXP on your phone. good music, no commercials and it's free.


MOTOROLA is readying a challenge to satellite radio with a new cell phone that allows downloads of commercial-free, customized radio programming from radio networks and independent producers.


COX NEWS SERVICE reports that the phones would carry up to 10 hours of programming at a time, downloaded through syncing with a home computer in the same manner as iPODs sync to download music; the programming would expire and disappear after a specified period of time. MOTOROLA's iRADIO is projected to charge $7./month for the service, which would also allow use of the phone as an MP3 music player, and has signed agreements with several program suppliers, according to MOTOROLA's DAVID ULMER, who told an audience at the KAGAN RESEARCH conference this week that the phone's memory may also be expanded with the use of Secure Digital cards.


The phone is scheduled to be unveiled at JANUARY's CONSUMER ELECTRONICS SHOW in LAS VEGAS.
 
First, I never mocked that. I questioned the benefit to KEXP for doing this -- and I still do. Can you tell us what the benefit to KEXP is for doing this?

Secondly, long ago you claimed you are merely a fan of KEXP, having nothing to do with radio, nor are you Lisa Wood.

If the aforementioned are true, then why are you cutting and pasting your information from a radio trade website like allaccess.com?



> You laughed that KEXP was the first to broadcast on a cell
> phone. Who would want that? What a joke, right?
>
> Well, now the others follow....The difference being that
> instead of offering quality music for the sake of it, they
> are going to charge you for it. I say listen to KEXP on your
> phone. good music, no commercials and it's free.
>
>
> MOTOROLA is readying a challenge to satellite radio with a
> new cell phone that allows downloads of commercial-free,
> customized radio programming from radio networks and
> independent producers.
>
>
> COX NEWS SERVICE reports that the phones would carry up to
> 10 hours of programming at a time, downloaded through
> syncing with a home computer in the same manner as iPODs
> sync to download music; the programming would expire and
> disappear after a specified period of time. MOTOROLA's
> iRADIO is projected to charge $7./month for the service,
> which would also allow use of the phone as an MP3 music
> player, and has signed agreements with several program
> suppliers, according to MOTOROLA's DAVID ULMER, who told an
> audience at the KAGAN RESEARCH conference this week that the
> phone's memory may also be expanded with the use of Secure
> Digital cards.
>
>
> The phone is scheduled to be unveiled at JANUARY's CONSUMER
> ELECTRONICS SHOW in LAS VEGAS.
>
 
To answer your grilling questions.

I found the all access news site on Lisa's blog, as she has referred to it many times. There's some good info about radio there.

What's the benefit to the phone? Are you ever travelling or in a place where you don't have access to your favorite radio station? There's your answer. People who don't have access to the radio kexp (in seattle) listen online and now, when they leave their computer they can still listen.


> First, I never mocked that. I questioned the benefit to
> KEXP for doing this -- and I still do. Can you tell us what
> the benefit to KEXP is for doing this?
>
> Secondly, long ago you claimed you are merely a fan of KEXP,
> having nothing to do with radio, nor are you Lisa Wood.
>
> If the aforementioned are true, then why are you cutting and
> pasting your information from a radio trade website like
> allaccess.com?
>
>
>
> > You laughed that KEXP was the first to broadcast on a cell
>
> > phone. Who would want that? What a joke, right?
> >
> > Well, now the others follow....The difference being that
> > instead of offering quality music for the sake of it, they
>
> > are going to charge you for it. I say listen to KEXP on
> your
> > phone. good music, no commercials and it's free.
> >
> >
> > MOTOROLA is readying a challenge to satellite radio with a
>
> > new cell phone that allows downloads of commercial-free,
> > customized radio programming from radio networks and
> > independent producers.
> >
> >
> > COX NEWS SERVICE reports that the phones would carry up to
>
> > 10 hours of programming at a time, downloaded through
> > syncing with a home computer in the same manner as iPODs
> > sync to download music; the programming would expire and
> > disappear after a specified period of time. MOTOROLA's
> > iRADIO is projected to charge $7./month for the service,
> > which would also allow use of the phone as an MP3 music
> > player, and has signed agreements with several program
> > suppliers, according to MOTOROLA's DAVID ULMER, who told
> an
> > audience at the KAGAN RESEARCH conference this week that
> the
> > phone's memory may also be expanded with the use of Secure
>
> > Digital cards.
> >
> >
> > The phone is scheduled to be unveiled at JANUARY's
> CONSUMER
> > ELECTRONICS SHOW in LAS VEGAS.
> >
>
 
Again, please read the question again and please answer on point.

What is the benefit to KEXP for doing this?



> To answer your grilling questions.
>
> I found the all access news site on Lisa's blog, as she has
> referred to it many times. There's some good info about
> radio there.
>
> What's the benefit to the phone? Are you ever travelling or
> in a place where you don't have access to your favorite
> radio station? There's your answer. People who don't have
> access to the radio kexp (in seattle) listen online and now,
> when they leave their computer they can still listen.
>
>
> > First, I never mocked that. I questioned the benefit to
> > KEXP for doing this -- and I still do. Can you tell us
> what
> > the benefit to KEXP is for doing this?
> >
> > Secondly, long ago you claimed you are merely a fan of
> KEXP,
> > having nothing to do with radio, nor are you Lisa Wood.
> >
> > If the aforementioned are true, then why are you cutting
> and
> > pasting your information from a radio trade website like
> > allaccess.com?
> >
> >
> >
> > > You laughed that KEXP was the first to broadcast on a
> cell
> >
> > > phone. Who would want that? What a joke, right?
> > >
> > > Well, now the others follow....The difference being that
>
> > > instead of offering quality music for the sake of it,
> they
> >
> > > are going to charge you for it. I say listen to KEXP on
> > your
> > > phone. good music, no commercials and it's free.
> > >
> > >
> > > MOTOROLA is readying a challenge to satellite radio with
> a
> >
> > > new cell phone that allows downloads of commercial-free,
>
> > > customized radio programming from radio networks and
> > > independent producers.
> > >
> > >
> > > COX NEWS SERVICE reports that the phones would carry up
> to
> >
> > > 10 hours of programming at a time, downloaded through
> > > syncing with a home computer in the same manner as iPODs
>
> > > sync to download music; the programming would expire and
>
> > > disappear after a specified period of time. MOTOROLA's
> > > iRADIO is projected to charge $7./month for the service,
>
> > > which would also allow use of the phone as an MP3 music
> > > player, and has signed agreements with several program
> > > suppliers, according to MOTOROLA's DAVID ULMER, who told
>
> > an
> > > audience at the KAGAN RESEARCH conference this week that
>
> > the
> > > phone's memory may also be expanded with the use of
> Secure
> >
> > > Digital cards.
> > >
> > >
> > > The phone is scheduled to be unveiled at JANUARY's
> > CONSUMER
> > > ELECTRONICS SHOW in LAS VEGAS.
> > >
> >
>
 
> Again, please read the question again and please answer on
> point.
>
> What is the benefit to KEXP for doing this?

Maybe KEXP is more interested in Listeners than in Ratings. Crazy idea, but some stations are in it for the grins instead of the bucks.
 
I don't work at KEXP, I don't know what they get out of it. Maybe that's the point. They do it for the benefit of their listeners and their listening community. I know you don't know what it's like to do something without a monetary return, but that's what makes KEXP different and better in my book. It's not about money, it's about us, the listeners.


> Again, please read the question again and please answer on
> point.
>
> What is the benefit to KEXP for doing this?
>
>
>
> > To answer your grilling questions.
> >
> > I found the all access news site on Lisa's blog, as she
> has
> > referred to it many times. There's some good info about
> > radio there.
> >
> > What's the benefit to the phone? Are you ever travelling
> or
> > in a place where you don't have access to your favorite
> > radio station? There's your answer. People who don't have
> > access to the radio kexp (in seattle) listen online and
> now,
> > when they leave their computer they can still listen.
> >
> >
> > > First, I never mocked that. I questioned the benefit to
>
> > > KEXP for doing this -- and I still do. Can you tell us
> > what
> > > the benefit to KEXP is for doing this?
> > >
> > > Secondly, long ago you claimed you are merely a fan of
> > KEXP,
> > > having nothing to do with radio, nor are you Lisa Wood.
> > >
> > > If the aforementioned are true, then why are you cutting
>
> > and
> > > pasting your information from a radio trade website like
>
> > > allaccess.com?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > You laughed that KEXP was the first to broadcast on a
> > cell
> > >
> > > > phone. Who would want that? What a joke, right?
> > > >
> > > > Well, now the others follow....The difference being
> that
> >
> > > > instead of offering quality music for the sake of it,
> > they
> > >
> > > > are going to charge you for it. I say listen to KEXP
> on
> > > your
> > > > phone. good music, no commercials and it's free.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > MOTOROLA is readying a challenge to satellite radio
> with
> > a
> > >
> > > > new cell phone that allows downloads of
> commercial-free,
> >
> > > > customized radio programming from radio networks and
> > > > independent producers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > COX NEWS SERVICE reports that the phones would carry
> up
> > to
> > >
> > > > 10 hours of programming at a time, downloaded through
> > > > syncing with a home computer in the same manner as
> iPODs
> >
> > > > sync to download music; the programming would expire
> and
> >
> > > > disappear after a specified period of time. MOTOROLA's
>
> > > > iRADIO is projected to charge $7./month for the
> service,
> >
> > > > which would also allow use of the phone as an MP3
> music
> > > > player, and has signed agreements with several program
>
> > > > suppliers, according to MOTOROLA's DAVID ULMER, who
> told
> >
> > > an
> > > > audience at the KAGAN RESEARCH conference this week
> that
> >
> > > the
> > > > phone's memory may also be expanded with the use of
> > Secure
> > >
> > > > Digital cards.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The phone is scheduled to be unveiled at JANUARY's
> > > CONSUMER
> > > > ELECTRONICS SHOW in LAS VEGAS.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
 
who mocked the cell phone all alone Ramone?

>>>> What is the benefit to KEXP for doing this?

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Hey, when they start broadcasting Music with Moskowitz via cell phone, let me know. Until then, I will consider it just another misguided use of technology.

> You laughed that KEXP was the first to broadcast on a cell
> phone. Who would want that? What a joke, right?
>
> Well, now the others follow....The difference being that
> instead of offering quality music for the sake of it, they
> are going to charge you for it. I say listen to KEXP on your
> phone. good music, no commercials and it's free.
>
>
> MOTOROLA is readying a challenge to satellite radio with a
> new cell phone that allows downloads of commercial-free,
> customized radio programming from radio networks and
> independent producers.
>
>
> COX NEWS SERVICE reports that the phones would carry up to
> 10 hours of programming at a time, downloaded through
> syncing with a home computer in the same manner as iPODs
> sync to download music; the programming would expire and
> disappear after a specified period of time. MOTOROLA's
> iRADIO is projected to charge $7./month for the service,
> which would also allow use of the phone as an MP3 music
> player, and has signed agreements with several program
> suppliers, according to MOTOROLA's DAVID ULMER, who told an
> audience at the KAGAN RESEARCH conference this week that the
> phone's memory may also be expanded with the use of Secure
> Digital cards.
>
>
> The phone is scheduled to be unveiled at JANUARY's CONSUMER
> ELECTRONICS SHOW in LAS VEGAS.
>
 
Don't be so naive. This is the reason they do things like that.

Motives aside, you can file this technology right next to AM Stereo.





> I don't work at KEXP, I don't know what they get out of it.
> Maybe that's the point. They do it for the benefit of their
> listeners and their listening community. I know you don't
> know what it's like to do something without a monetary
> return, but that's what makes KEXP different and better in
> my book. It's not about money, it's about us, the listeners.
>
>
 
They don't get rated. See my earlier post for what they're really interested in.


> Maybe KEXP is more interested in Listeners than in Ratings.
> Crazy idea, but some stations are in it for the grins
> instead of the bucks.
>
 
> They don't get rated. See my earlier post for what they're
> really interested in.
>
>
> > Maybe KEXP is more interested in Listeners than in
> Ratings.
> > Crazy idea, but some stations are in it for the grins
> > instead of the bucks.
> >
>
They do get rated, they just don't show up in the 12+ numbers you see online. I guarantee you that they use "ratings" when they talk to potential underwriters.
 
You m ean bettering the station for their listener so that they can stay commercial free and play great music AND deliver it to my computer and my cell phone? Hmmmm, yea, I think I'd support that financially, and I do. Better than supporting a bull-crap station that plays the same 10 songs.

> Don't be so naive. This is the reason they do things like
> that.
>
> Motives aside, you can file this technology right next to AM
> Stereo.
>
>
>
>
>
> > I don't work at KEXP, I don't know what they get out of
> it.
> > Maybe that's the point. They do it for the benefit of
> their
> > listeners and their listening community. I know you don't
> > know what it's like to do something without a monetary
> > return, but that's what makes KEXP different and better in
>
> > my book. It's not about money, it's about us, the
> listeners.
> >
> >
>
 
How do you improve a station by being a streamie?

Seems to me if you want to hear all that kind of music and donate that kind of money, just buy an iPod. Or call up Paul Allen for another check.

And KEXP is in the non-commercial band, hence no commercials.



> You m ean bettering the station for their listener so that
> they can stay commercial free and play great music AND
> deliver it to my computer and my cell phone? Hmmmm, yea, I
> think I'd support that financially, and I do. Better than
> supporting a bull-crap station that plays the same 10 songs.
>
 
Where are these numbers?

If they are using any Arbitron numbers as you suggest, that is illegal. And Arbitron does not treat that stuff lightly. For KEXP's sake, I hoe you're just blowing hot air.



> They do get rated, they just don't show up in the 12+
> numbers you see online. I guarantee you that they use
> "ratings" when they talk to potential underwriters.
>
 
Here is the Arbitron Non-Comm Link, Dumbass

> Where are these numbers?
>
> If they are using any Arbitron numbers as you suggest, that
> is illegal. And Arbitron does not treat that stuff lightly.
> For KEXP's sake, I hoe you're just blowing hot air.
>
>
>
> > They do get rated, they just don't show up in the 12+
> > numbers you see online. I guarantee you that they use
> > "ratings" when they talk to potential underwriters.
> >
>

Go to this page and get the report for Seattle. I won't quote it because that would be illegal, and thousands of people would die needlessly.

<a href="http://www.rrconline.org/arbitron/">http://www.rrconline.org/arbitron/
</a>

Yes, it's legal and non-commercial stations can pay for the results just like the commercial stations do.

Now stop making an ass of yourself denying that which is easily proven.
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by hangbush on 09/16/05 12:52 AM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: Here is the Arbitron Non-Comm Link, Dumbass

> >
Wow..that was VERY cool to see...great to know that KEXP is getting its ass handed to it by all the stations that play all of the things that KEXP is supposed to be so much better than....well, beat by a good number of them anyway. Their AQH suuuuuuukkkssss....

Where are these numbers?
> >
> > If they are using any Arbitron numbers as you suggest,
> that
> > is illegal. And Arbitron does not treat that stuff
> lightly.
> > For KEXP's sake, I hoe you're just blowing hot air.
> >
> >
> >
> > > They do get rated, they just don't show up in the 12+
> > > numbers you see online. I guarantee you that they use
> > > "ratings" when they talk to potential underwriters.
> > >
> >
>
> Go to this page and get the report for Seattle. I won't
> quote it because that would be illegal, and thousands of
> people would die needlessly.
>
> http://www.rrconline.org/arbitron/
>
>
> Yes, it's legal and non-commercial stations can pay for the
> results just like the commercial stations do.
>
> Now stop making an ass of yourself denying that which is
> easily proven.
>
 
Re: Here is the Arbitron Non-Comm Link, Dumbass

> Yes, it's legal and non-commercial stations can pay for the
> results just like the commercial stations do.
>
> Now stop making an ass of yourself denying that which is
> easily proven.

Thanks for displaying your lack of knowledge about Arbitron. Why don't you click on that page yourself and read the disclaimer at the top of the page.

Since your knowledge of Arbitron numbers is smaller than a Cheerio, I'll explain something to you. That disclaimer you failed to read means that the numbers can't be quoted for sales purposes.

Unfortunately, said disclaimer doesn't prevent morons like you to make some self-serving statement under false pretenses.
 
Re: Here is the Arbitron Non-Comm Link, Dumbass

Ssssshhhh, let the KEXP folks live in their own imaginary world and let them think they're the greatest thing since sliced bread.


> Wow..that was VERY cool to see...great to know that KEXP is
> getting its ass handed to it by all the stations that play
> all of the things that KEXP is supposed to be so much better
> than....well, beat by a good number of them anyway. Their
> AQH suuuuuuukkkssss....
 
Re: Here is the Arbitron Non-Comm Link, Dumbass

>
Hey, give them SOME credit...at least their numbers are entertaining.

Ssssshhhh, let the KEXP folks live in their own imaginary
> world and let them think they're the greatest thing since
> sliced bread.
>
>
> > Wow..that was VERY cool to see...great to know that KEXP
> is
> > getting its ass handed to it by all the stations that play
>
> > all of the things that KEXP is supposed to be so much
> better
> > than....well, beat by a good number of them anyway. Their
>
> > AQH suuuuuuukkkssss....
>
 
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