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Top 40 Radio Back in the Day, circa 1985

radiorama1 said:
Wow, if you could find out where that aircheck is posted of HTT flipping to MRQ, I sure would love to hear that! (And also while we're at it, what about 'Hit Radio' flipping to Power ;) )

^ You can find lots of postings for the aircheck of EEI-FM flipping to WHTT... but what about the two I listed above?

Hey Radiorama, here you go! When you click on the link, scroll down, it is the second from the last. ;D WHTT to WMRQ Flip with much thanks to Peter Q. George who has it on his website! :)



I too, remember the repetition on WHTT, but it's funny how HTT's "Hitlists" (that's EXACTLY what they were called), pick 'em up at your favorite MUSICLAND (before Sam Goody's... "they know what's hot!" ) along with your Hit Radio 103.3 BUMPERSTICKER... listed "Boston's Top 50"... but seemed to lean heavily on the upper 25-30 songs on those lists... I bet the songs on the bottom of the list probably saw no more than 5-10 spins a week, tops...

I remember Hitlists also. They always had a pick-hit of the week and usually had it as an add at #40, but sometimes at #50 instead.
 
Re: The Flip from WHTT to WMRQ....

Garrett said:
The flip from WEEI to WHTT (From Steve West's Airchexx.com):
http://www.formatchange.com/1033-weei-fm-becomes-hitradio-whtt/

The flip from WHTT to WMRQ (from Peter Q. George's page):
(It's from a geocities page, so i don't know how limited he is on bandwidth):

http://www.geocities.com/radiojunkie1/FormatCh.ra

Full page:
http://www.geocities.com/radiojunkie1/audio.html

Sorry Garret, I did not realize that you had already posted this.
 
Garrett said:
(Just an FYI, this topic has already been covered about a year or two ago, I think it's somewhere down the board if you look. In any case, I'll repeat what wrote back then about what I remember from WHTT vs. Kiss108 vs. WZOU)

Back in the early 80's when I was a tween (about 10-14ish), FM radio in Boston really began to get my attention! There was Kiss, with a very heavy disco sound, with the WVBF's and WROR's in some other category, not quite WSSH or Magic, but not exactly fresh either, and then there was WHTT. HitRadio103, WHTT was the station all my peers listened to. I used to record songs off WHTT, keeping the pause button down on our Emerson stereo to keep out the elements, and then recorded the songs I liked together on a Centron C-60 (those white with orange cassettes you got from F. W. Woolworth). (These days, I wished I hadn't cut out elements, but I digress). Between 1983 and 1986, I listened to A LOT of WHTT! It was the station that had Michael Jackson's Thriller, Madonna, Men Without Hats, and Cyndi Lauper. There was never any question what the hottest songs were, because that is what WHTT was playing. WHTT was the happening thing, lots of energy, and everyone sounded like they were at a big party. Heavy on the reverb, and of course a top of the hour jingle I.D., complete with the DJ intro in front. The TV ads which ran showed a big lightening bolt, and emphasized "Power 103, WHTT." I think there's one somewhere on YouTube. Suffice it to say that WHTT was THE station of record.

Meanwhile, Kiss had their stickers everywhere, with their black background, pink lipstick and big lips, but at that point, they didn't register for me because they seemed to radical, too extreme. And, of course, there was WZOU "The Zoo," which at the time had visibility, (it's where Live on 4's Judy Paparelli went), but also didn't register, because they just didn't seem interesting (and not at all like Top 40).

Then came Summer 1986. That Spring I went away to Maine for summer camp. When I got back in August, I noticed this big dark blue and green sign just before we crossed over the Tobin on I-93 South: "The New Q103, Boston's Quality Rock." What was that? How were they on the air next to WHTT? What I realized later is they had flipped to this new station, which also was very uninteresting. It wasn't even really rock (that might have been ok, even WBCN was more entertaining than WMRQ).

That fall I leared to adjust my listening habits. "The Zoo" was now "Z-94," (or sometimes, they called themselves "Z-O-U") and they seemed to have taken over the same kind of wall-to-wall Hits format that WHTT had. Kiss 108 had also jumped in to take over from HTT's audience, and this created a true war that lasted until after I left in 1988. Both Z-94 and Kiss108 were Top 40, but that's where the similarities ended. WZOU abandoned the reverb that WHTT had, but kept the jingle and element heavy attitude. Z94 was a very disciplined format that had a very tight rotation. The Top 10's were repeated every 2 hours, and all 40 every 3 or 4. There were few (if any) "remixes" during the 86-88 era, everything was exactly as released. No backselling at all, no dead-air allowed what-so-ever. And everything was heavily processed (and remained so even after flipping to Jam'n' as I understand it). "The Madam" (Karen Blake) sounded similar to "Lady D" and was the most distinguishable voice on the station.

Kiss 108 took the opposite approach, very light on the jingles (at least initially), heavy remixes (especially after 9pm), cuts-ins througout the day with live events updates. DJ's like Uncle Dale and Lady D frequenly were allowed to mention their mistakes and talk without music beds, and backselling was the rule, not the exception. Everything on WZOU's playlist was on Kiss's, but not everything on Kiss's playlist was on WZOU's.

That last piece was the single biggest difference! You never really knew what Kiss 108 was going to do, they were going to play Top 40, sure... But, they were also going to throw in an Oldie or two, a Disco track, or an old Album Rock song from the 70s. David Bowie and Aerosmith, staples of WBCN also got airplay on Kiss. There were more rap songs, louder rock songs, and processing took a different direction on Kiss! WXKS FM was much dryer and heavier on the base than WZOU's "perfect" processing sound.

Of course these days, it is Kiss that is the so-called "disciplined" CHR, but it is much debated as to whether that's out of program direction or just budget.

Funny how everybody's experience is different.

I was about the same age as you, actually a little older, also growing up in Boston. A few years earlier I had been VERY into the top 40 radio played on WVBF, which was then called F-105. This was the era of My Sharona, Supertramp, YMCA, and the last days of the Bee Gees.

Suddenly, amongst my peer group, F105 was out. It was now all about COZ, and their "kick-a$$" rock n roll. Ozzy, Zeppelin, The Who, Van Halen..... I remember doing a "favorite station" survey for a graph project in junior high, and the "bar" for COZ on my bar graph was this huge tower. I was shocked, because I still liked F105, and it seemed I was the only one in the whole school. (There was one kid who inexplicably said he liked WJIB....)

So through peer pressure or maybe more testosterone entering my system, I moved onto COZ. Before long I was a genuine fan of harder rock.

When COZ ended, people switched to either WAAF or WBCN. BCN in particular had a fantastic jock lineup at the time: Laquidara, Shelton, Parentau, and Carter Allan. Later on as Carter moved on we had Tami Heidi and I think Tony Beradini. I heard everything from Pat Metheny to early U2 to Prince on BCN. It was a pretty diverse format, looking back - far more enlightened than COZ had been.

I remember when WHTT came out, it was simply despised, at least amongst my peer group. (I speak only of the boys - it was quite popular amongst the girls.) I had one friend who listened to it (his favorite song was Mr. Roboto) and we used to tease him mercilessly! There was a bit of macho posturing to this, looking back. To admit you liked Wham or Aha in my school would probably have resulted in social ostracism. (Kind of silly, but that's the way it was.)

BCN got into the act itself mocking HTT. At one point they had Ric Ocasek from the Cars do a station ID, and during it he said, "this is the dork DJ of the week on WHTT." They played that one all the time, even years after HTT was gone. Again, there was a "we're cooler than they are" attitude going on.

Now that time has passed and I've become somewhat of a Top 40 radio geek, WHTT has moved in my mind from the "lame" station to Top 40's last hurrah. Interesting what time and perspective does.

Here's a clip you might enjoy. This is a jock who was on Top 40 in Boston for a bit, and then went to San Diego in the mid-80s, again doing high energy Top 40. He has the most incredible level of enthusiasm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQEj_ZkQ-j0
 
WLYNgm said:
For me, "back in the day" was Top 30 on
68 WRKO ...

Good station back in the day too!

Will said:
This thread sounds like a lot of fun. Too bad I didn't live in Boston until 2003.

Nothing this interesting will ever happen in Boston radio again, not when Kiss considers sweepers telling me to watch something on their website to be interesting radio.

If you think the 80's was interesting, that was nothing compared to the radio war that broke out with Kiss and 'ZOU during the early 90's, but that is a topic for another thread though.
 
Thank you Garrett for posting those aircheck links. I hear myself all over the commercials on that ZOU aircheck. That was 21 years ago for me and man do I sound young! I was about 21 at the time (you do the math). If anyone has any insider questions about ZOU and HTT from those days I'd love to help. I gave blood during that entire time and felt all of it. :) J Michael Fox sure sounded great on that aircheck. It was Lorna Ozmun at WROR (a wonderful lady who I have great respect for) who got the Fox and Christian ZOU morning show out of the market by getting her DC station to steal them.

Will, I was PD of ZOU for about 3 months. They had gone thru 5 PDs that year and I guess it was my turn. I hated every minute of being a boss in name only with no power. The GM controlled everything. I arrived at ZOU at the format flip from WCOZ to be their first ZOO midday jock. The day I arrived with my suitcase in hand the PD said even though he hired me to do middays, the GM had already also hired a midday guy! He asked if I could do production and I jumped at the chance to get off air and do promos. Eventually they twisted my arm to be PD (in name only) and eventually they let me go back to production director. I still talk to many friends I made there. Thanks for mentioning ZOU.
 
Wow, this is all really cool stuff!
A couple of things...
I never got into the old F-105, because my family had been away from Boston from 1973 to 1980. So by the time I caught on to Boston FM, WVBF wasn't on the radar screen. My first experience with FM was with WROR believe it or not! It was about 1981 (or early 82?), and there was a live broadcast being done at one of the malls (I can't remember if it was the Watertown Mall, Framingham Mall (the one that had Kmart and Service Merchandice), or the Natick Mall, but one of those 3. There was a DJ there with a big afro and two turn tables on a stage with a banner that said "WROR." My mother was upset that the guy didn't acknowledge her.

Before that we were in the Twin Cities, and I was more interested in the music than the stations (was also really young). I knew that there was an all disco station, but only now do I know it was KFMX (which ironically is the same KFMX I have here in Lubbock TX, but its now a Rock station, another story for another day). On the other hand, I can tell you the logos of all the TV stations in Minneapolis from that era and their call letters.

Funny thing about Jojo! I guess because I didn't start listening to Kiss until about 83 or 84, Jojo was already gone and I wasn't familiar with him. Yet in 1988 when we left for San Diego, I got a heavy dose of him on Q106 and I even recorded an aircheck just before he left in 92. It may be on my Q106SanDiego.com page, but it is certainly at airchexx.com! He was one of my favorite personalities, and I didin't realize until later that he too had a long history in Boston. Q106 began its slide down hill almost immediately after he left (kind of a shame). Jojo, along with Dale Dorman inspired me to get into FM.
 
Retro said:
Interesting clip! Jojo Kincaid worked here at not only F-105, but Kiss 108 and Eagle 93-7 also.

And... don't forget he also held down afternoons at Jamn' 94.5!!

Talk about a jock being diverse--- Jojo is very talented. 8)
 
And, also thanks very much to Garrett and Retro for those links... now all we need is the flip from 'Hitradio' to 'Power' (well, if you want to call it a flip 8) ) ... however I suspect that it might not exist...
 
Retro said:
I too, remember the repetition on WHTT, but it's funny how HTT's "Hitlists" (that's EXACTLY what they were called), pick 'em up at your favorite MUSICLAND (before Sam Goody's... "they know what's hot!" ) along with your Hit Radio 103.3 BUMPERSTICKER... listed "Boston's Top 50"... but seemed to lean heavily on the upper 25-30 songs on those lists... I bet the songs on the bottom of the list probably saw no more than 5-10 spins a week, tops...

I remember Hitlists also. They always had a pick-hit of the week and usually had it as an add at #40, but sometimes at #50 instead.

Actually Retro, the hitlists are those snapshots of the surveys that you have on your original post (I'm sure you are aware of that, just want to point that out for anyone reading who doesn't know) ... Every week they were a different color and IIRC they were actually HALF the size of a standard piece of copy paper (imagine turning a sheet of copy paper on its side and chopping it in half) ... sometimes I believe there would be a coupon or something as well on the back...

I used to have A TON of those, however they have since disappeared... :(
 
Going back to listen to the HTT/MRQ flip for the THIRD time :p ...

"Boston Radio History"... yeah right ;)

A few questions, if I may:

1.Can someone tell me if any of the old "Power 103" jocks stayed over for the debut of MRQ, or was it a total housecleaning? (I remember one of my favorite nighttime jocks of the 80's, Alex Stone, being replaced by the AWFUL Tony "Wild Child" _________ (can't remember his last name) after they made the switch from "Hitradio" to "Power"...

2.In it's final hours (or days), did Power 103 run jockless? Or was it business as usual, without any warning?

3.Due to the marginal audio quality of the aircheck (understandable, since it is now over 20 years old), I don't think I detect any reverb... was the reverd dropped at the moment Power 103 changed over to MRQ, or was it dropped beofre then (perhaps another sign a change was coming)...
 
jimcutler said:
Thank you Garrett for posting those aircheck links. I hear myself all over the commercials on that ZOU aircheck. That was 21 years ago for me and man do I sound young! I was about 21 at the time (you do the math). If anyone has any insider questions about ZOU and HTT from those days I'd love to help. I gave blood during that entire time and felt all of it. :) J Michael Fox sure sounded great on that aircheck. It was Lorna Ozmun at WROR (a wonderful lady who I have great respect for) who got the Fox and Christian ZOU morning show out of the market by getting her DC station to steal them.

Will, I was PD of ZOU for about 3 months. They had gone thru 5 PDs that year and I guess it was my turn. I hated every minute of being a boss in name only with no power. The GM controlled everything. I arrived at ZOU at the format flip from WCOZ to be their first ZOO midday jock. The day I arrived with my suitcase in hand the PD said even though he hired me to do middays, the GM had already also hired a midday guy! He asked if I could do production and I jumped at the chance to get off air and do promos. Eventually they twisted my arm to be PD (in name only) and eventually they let me go back to production director. I still talk to many friends I made there. Thanks for mentioning ZOU.

Jim Cutler was the heart-and-soul pd for a short time at WZOU, including the dreaded "Saturday overnighter-calls-out-sick" thing. I was doing the Saturday overnight on WHDH, and across the glass-walled lobby, we (Al Carp, engineering & broadcast marvel, and I) watched Jim in the WZOU studio doing the head-bob at 0200 - and not to the beat of the music. Since the Nifty 850 went to some public affairs stuff at 0300, I offered to jump in to finish out that shift for him - the IBEW tech-on-duty had no problem with running the p/a tapes since we'd be helping out young Master Cutler. I got to do two hours on the Zoo, my only CHR airshift ever. I actually found the aircheck while going through some boxes recently, and the note that Jim wrote to thank me for jumping in.

One of the funnier highlights of the Zoo era was after the change from The Zoo to Z94.5. The internal memo, issued by then-GM Bud Stiker (great guy!) was the 25-cent fine for anyone caught saying "Zoo" in reference to the FM station. not sure if they made any money off that, although I believe I may owe Mr.Stiker $2.75.
 
Regarding any Power 103 jocks staying on and doing jock shifts on WMRQ, one that I recall staying was the famous Johnny Dark, who did middays at WMRQ - for I wanna say a year - before leaving. Dark was great on WHTT, there's an aircheck of him on my website, northeastairchecks.com.
 
radiorama1 said:
Retro said:
I too, remember the repetition on WHTT, but it's funny how HTT's "Hitlists" (that's EXACTLY what they were called), pick 'em up at your favorite MUSICLAND (before Sam Goody's... "they know what's hot!" ) along with your Hit Radio 103.3 BUMPERSTICKER... listed "Boston's Top 50"... but seemed to lean heavily on the upper 25-30 songs on those lists... I bet the songs on the bottom of the list probably saw no more than 5-10 spins a week, tops...

I remember Hitlists also. They always had a pick-hit of the week and usually had it as an add at #40, but sometimes at #50 instead.

Actually Retro, the hitlists are those snapshots of the surveys that you have on your original post (I'm sure you are aware of that, just want to point that out for anyone reading who doesn't know) ... Every week they were a different color and IIRC they were actually HALF the size of a standard piece of copy paper (imagine turning a sheet of copy paper on its side and chopping it in half) ... sometimes I believe there would be a coupon or something as well on the back...

I used to have A TON of those, however they have since disappeared... :(

Radiorama, I used to have those, and used to collect 68 RKO weekly lists also.
 
radiorama1 said:
Going back to listen to the HTT/MRQ flip for the THIRD time :p ...

"Boston Radio History"... yeah right ;)

A few questions, if I may:

1.Can someone tell me if any of the old "Power 103" jocks stayed over for the debut of MRQ, or was it a total housecleaning? (I remember one of my favorite nighttime jocks of the 80's, Alex Stone, being replaced by the AWFUL Tony "Wild Child" _________ (can't remember his last name) after they made the switch from "Hitradio" to "Power"...

2.In it's final hours (or days), did Power 103 run jockless? Or was it business as usual, without any warning?

3.Due to the marginal audio quality of the aircheck (understandable, since it is now over 20 years old), I don't think I detect any reverb... was the reverd dropped at the moment Power 103 changed over to MRQ, or was it dropped beofre then (perhaps another sign a change was coming)...

I do not recall any unusual activity with WHTT before the flip at all, but I could be wrong though as I was more or less a passive listener to the station at that point.
 
Retro said:
radiorama1 said:
Retro said:
I too, remember the repetition on WHTT, but it's funny how HTT's "Hitlists" (that's EXACTLY what they were called), pick 'em up at your favorite MUSICLAND (before Sam Goody's... "they know what's hot!" ) along with your Hit Radio 103.3 BUMPERSTICKER... listed "Boston's Top 50"... but seemed to lean heavily on the upper 25-30 songs on those lists... I bet the songs on the bottom of the list probably saw no more than 5-10 spins a week, tops...

I remember Hitlists also. They always had a pick-hit of the week and usually had it as an add at #40, but sometimes at #50 instead.

Actually Retro, the hitlists are those snapshots of the surveys that you have on your original post (I'm sure you are aware of that, just want to point that out for anyone reading who doesn't know) ... Every week they were a different color and IIRC they were actually HALF the size of a standard piece of copy paper (imagine turning a sheet of copy paper on its side and chopping it in half) ... sometimes I believe there would be a coupon or something as well on the back...

I used to have A TON of those, however they have since disappeared... :(

Radiorama, I used to have those, and used to collect 68 RKO weekly lists also.

Retro, you know I probably would be willing to pay out some money to get a nice collection of those again (the HTT ones)... ;) 8)
 
Chuckigo said:
jimcutler said:
Thank you Garrett for posting those aircheck links. I hear myself all over the commercials on that ZOU aircheck. That was 21 years ago for me and man do I sound young! I was about 21 at the time (you do the math). If anyone has any insider questions about ZOU and HTT from those days I'd love to help. I gave blood during that entire time and felt all of it. :) J Michael Fox sure sounded great on that aircheck. It was Lorna Ozmun at WROR (a wonderful lady who I have great respect for) who got the Fox and Christian ZOU morning show out of the market by getting her DC station to steal them.

Will, I was PD of ZOU for about 3 months. They had gone thru 5 PDs that year and I guess it was my turn. I hated every minute of being a boss in name only with no power. The GM controlled everything. I arrived at ZOU at the format flip from WCOZ to be their first ZOO midday jock. The day I arrived with my suitcase in hand the PD said even though he hired me to do middays, the GM had already also hired a midday guy! He asked if I could do production and I jumped at the chance to get off air and do promos. Eventually they twisted my arm to be PD (in name only) and eventually they let me go back to production director. I still talk to many friends I made there. Thanks for mentioning ZOU.

Jim Cutler was the heart-and-soul pd for a short time at WZOU, including the dreaded "Saturday overnighter-calls-out-sick" thing. I was doing the Saturday overnight on WHDH, and across the glass-walled lobby, we (Al Carp, engineering & broadcast marvel, and I) watched Jim in the WZOU studio doing the head-bob at 0200 - and not to the beat of the music. Since the Nifty 850 went to some public affairs stuff at 0300, I offered to jump in to finish out that shift for him - the IBEW tech-on-duty had no problem with running the p/a tapes since we'd be helping out young Master Cutler. I got to do two hours on the Zoo, my only CHR airshift ever. I actually found the aircheck while going through some boxes recently, and the note that Jim wrote to thank me for jumping in.

One of the funnier highlights of the Zoo era was after the change from The Zoo to Z94.5. The internal memo, issued by then-GM Bud Stiker (great guy!) was the 25-cent fine for anyone caught saying "Zoo" in reference to the FM station. not sure if they made any money off that, although I believe I may owe Mr.Stiker $2.75.

Great stuff Chuck, I never knew that Jim Cutler was the pd of ZOU, just goes to show how funny this business can be (No offense to you Jim... I consider you to be one of the finest voice-over men in the business and I really enjoy your work on WB 56 as well as EEI 8) )
 
radiorama1 said:
Chuckigo said:
jimcutler said:
Thank you Garrett for posting those aircheck links. I hear myself all over the commercials on that ZOU aircheck. That was 21 years ago for me and man do I sound young! I was about 21 at the time (you do the math). If anyone has any insider questions about ZOU and HTT from those days I'd love to help. I gave blood during that entire time and felt all of it. :) J Michael Fox sure sounded great on that aircheck. It was Lorna Ozmun at WROR (a wonderful lady who I have great respect for) who got the Fox and Christian ZOU morning show out of the market by getting her DC station to steal them.

Will, I was PD of ZOU for about 3 months. They had gone thru 5 PDs that year and I guess it was my turn. I hated every minute of being a boss in name only with no power. The GM controlled everything. I arrived at ZOU at the format flip from WCOZ to be their first ZOO midday jock. The day I arrived with my suitcase in hand the PD said even though he hired me to do middays, the GM had already also hired a midday guy! He asked if I could do production and I jumped at the chance to get off air and do promos. Eventually they twisted my arm to be PD (in name only) and eventually they let me go back to production director. I still talk to many friends I made there. Thanks for mentioning ZOU.

Jim Cutler was the heart-and-soul pd for a short time at WZOU, including the dreaded "Saturday overnighter-calls-out-sick" thing. I was doing the Saturday overnight on WHDH, and across the glass-walled lobby, we (Al Carp, engineering & broadcast marvel, and I) watched Jim in the WZOU studio doing the head-bob at 0200 - and not to the beat of the music. Since the Nifty 850 went to some public affairs stuff at 0300, I offered to jump in to finish out that shift for him - the IBEW tech-on-duty had no problem with running the p/a tapes since we'd be helping out young Master Cutler. I got to do two hours on the Zoo, my only CHR airshift ever. I actually found the aircheck while going through some boxes recently, and the note that Jim wrote to thank me for jumping in.

One of the funnier highlights of the Zoo era was after the change from The Zoo to Z94.5. The internal memo, issued by then-GM Bud Stiker (great guy!) was the 25-cent fine for anyone caught saying "Zoo" in reference to the FM station. not sure if they made any money off that, although I believe I may owe Mr.Stiker $2.75.

Great stuff Chuck, I never knew that Jim Cutler was the pd of ZOU, just goes to show how funny this business can be (No offense to you Jim... I consider you to be one of the finest voice-over men in the business and I really enjoy your work on WB 56 as well as EEI 8) )

EDIT! I mean the "CW 56" haha!! Just goes to show how much television I watch (or rather DON'T WATCH) these days! :p
 
Re: Top 30 Radio Back in the Day, circa 1970

Yea - the weekly WRKO top 30 lists. I would ride
my bike up to the local music store in town,
and get the weekly list, every week. On the wall were all of
the Top 30 45 rpm singles (vinyl, baby!).
The first ones I ever bought with my own money -
Keep Me Hangin' On by Vanilla Fudge, (did not know for
years that it was a Supremes song, originally)
and Sunshine of Your Love by Cream.

Back when there was killer music as current stuff -
nothing like the junk that passes for music these days...

Starting in approximately 1971, we discovered FM radio.
I used to tune that in was WKOX-FM 105.7. They used to do a top 30
(40?) countdown during a weekday afternoon, after school.
This was, of course, when were didn't run home to tune in
the 3 Stooges on the "Frito Sports Club" on channel 38!
 
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