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Touch FM 106.1 Roxbury

They called John Paul Jones a pirate too. Who was he?
Answer. The founder of The United States Navy.

After radio lovers take the airwaves back, more people will tune in again.

Money lovers have ruined radio!
 
mistermicrophone said:
Flying-Dutchman said:
For our form of government to work, good citizens stand up to be counted. So, I am sure that all of us answered
the call when the FCC asked for our coments on important rule changes.

http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdf&id_document=6520004675

http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdf&id_document=6519871212

http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdf&id_document=6518614477

http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/retrieve.cgi?native_or_pdf=pdf&id_document=6518359464
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First of all, define "good citizens". I would say those breaking the law are not "good citizens", but I digress. Second, I like this statement from one of the links you have here "In cities like Indianapolis half the people don't even use radio anymore". Priceless!!
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Well thank god we had alot of bad citizens in the past ( Brooklyn Dodgers Ownership, Rosa Parks ). Some laws need to be broken . Big companies are killing the radio !!!
 
Flying-Dutchman said:
They called John Paul Jones a pirate too. Who was he?
Answer. The founder of The United States Navy.

After radio lovers take the airwaves back, more people will tune in again.

Money lovers have ruined radio!
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Because JPJ was a broadcaster...

Seriously, Touch is breaking the law. Heck If I was the FCC I'd send in a small army and tear down their studios. you shouldn't compare Rosa Parks to radio either(rapking). If you are doing something that is against the law, you are doing something Illegal, plain and simple.
 
AckDX said:
Flying-Dutchman said:
They called John Paul Jones a pirate too. Who was he?
Answer. The founder of The United States Navy.

After radio lovers take the airwaves back, more people will tune in again.

Money lovers have ruined radio!
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Because JPJ was a broadcaster...

Seriously, Touch is breaking the law. Heck If I was the FCC I'd send in a small army and tear down their studios. you shouldn't compare Rosa Parks to radio either(rapking). If you are doing something that is against the law, you are doing something Illegal, plain and simple.
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Rosa Parks did something against the law. Maybe the Cops should had beat her down. The Mayor of Boston love Touch-FM . Some laws need to be broken .
 
You just equated pirate broadcasters with Rosa Parks? She should have been beaten? Holy sheepdip! You've said some strange things in your unique grammatical way but that is just...sad.

rapking said:
Rosa Parks did something against the law. Maybe the Cops should had beat her down. The Mayor of Boston love Touch-FM . Some laws need to be broken .
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And since WHEN do some laws need to be broken?! I'd call that sedition, at the very least.....
 
MLK and Rose Parks broke the law, so American ( and the World ) can live better in Peace . Touch-FM Broke the law, So we the listeners can get a station for the people of Boston . Big Companies stations does little to nothing for the city of Boston . Boston Mayor love Touch-FM .
 
rapking said:
MLK and Rose Parks broke the law, so American ( and the World ) can live better in Peace . Touch-FM Broke the law, So we the listeners can get a station for the people of Boston . Big Companies stations does little to nothing for the city of Boston . Boston Mayor love Touch-FM .
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Comparing Touch-FM to Rosa Parks is ridiculous. No Civil Rights are being broken by NOT hearing songs on the radio.
 
So...if I started my OWN pirate station on 106.1 that happened to jam Touch, would I be guilty of a hate crime??
 
At the time Rosa Parks sat in a seat on the front of the bus the only civil rights laws in existence were found in the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments to the Constitution of the United States.

Now, when you have, just as a for instance, a certain former Democrat President who breaks the law, legislation was passed to make it either legal or illegal. In either event it was, to use a figure of speech, to stop them from killing again. In other words, if you make it legal they won't be breaking the law anymore. If you make it illegal for everyone else after they already perpetrated the act then it was never illegal to begin with in the minds of some.

Since there are FCC "rules", then the question becomes do you make it legal or illegal to stop the pirate from killing again? Rules are not laws. Rules are rules, regulations are regulations and laws are laws. All can be enforced; however, there is a difference.
 
pbf1 said:
So...if I started my OWN pirate station on 106.1 that happened to jam Touch, would I be guilty of a hate crime??
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No Dum//a// ! You will guilty of a Touch crime .
 
Silkie said:
At the time Rosa Parks sat in a seat on the front of the bus the only civil rights laws in existence were found in the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments to the Constitution of the United States.

Now, when you have, just as a for instance, a certain former Democrat President who breaks the law, legislation was passed to make it either legal or illegal. In either event it was, to use a figure of speech, to stop them from killing again. In other words, if you make it legal they won't be breaking the law anymore. If you make it illegal for everyone else after they already perpetrated the act then it was never illegal to begin with in the minds of some.

Since there are FCC "rules", then the question becomes do you make it legal or illegal to stop the pirate from killing again? Rules are not laws. Rules are rules, regulations are regulations and laws are laws. All can be enforced; however, there is a difference.
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Rule, regulation, crime. We can argue semantics all day long, but what Touch is doing is wrong. Depending on your interpretation of the law/rule/regulation, they are operating an illegal/unregulated radio station. They can be (and have been) fined and/or thrown in jail, steep price to pay for "just breaking a rule."
 
But doesn't the "Touch" pirate station speak to other issues?

Elsewhere on this message board there are those complaining about the amount - and sameness - of mega-corporate radio stations. There are others bemoaning the lack of station responsibility to their COL (city of license) and the abandonment of coverage for local news and events. Younger demographics no longer look to radio as a news or entertainment source. Some are even questioning the viability of radio broadcasting in the future.

Yes, "Touch" is a pirate. They are breaking laws. Current laws. But laws are amended, changed, and discarded continuously. (Yes, they are also strengthened and enforced!)

So, are the current laws just? If you think they are, give good reasons. (NOTE: one of the first four "reasons" cannot be "it's always been done this way," as *that* is not a reason. The reasoning should lead to, "and that's why we've always done it that way." See?)

If the laws are unjust, say so, but give ways - legitimate, plausible ways - to change them.

I'm enjoying this discussion!

Mike
 
Wilkins said:
But doesn't the "Touch" pirate station speak to other issues?

Elsewhere on this message board there are those complaining about the amount - and sameness - of mega-corporate radio stations. There are others bemoaning the lack of station responsibility to their COL (city of license) and the abandonment of coverage for local news and events. Younger demographics no longer look to radio as a news or entertainment source. Some are even questioning the viability of radio broadcasting in the future.

Yes, "Touch" is a pirate. They are breaking laws. Current laws. But laws are amended, changed, and discarded continuously. (Yes, they are also strengthened and enforced!)

So, are the current laws just? If you think they are, give good reasons. (NOTE: one of the first four "reasons" cannot be "it's always been done this way," as *that* is not a reason. The reasoning should lead to, "and that's why we've always done it that way." See?)

If the laws are unjust, say so, but give ways - legitimate, plausible ways - to change them.

I'm enjoying this discussion!

Mike
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good post!

one thing that irked me

Silkie said:
A a certain former Democrat President
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Democratic president. References to the "Democrat Party," revived in recent years by Republicans by Bush, is an old McCarthy era term...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Democrat_Party
 
Flying-Dutchman said:
There is already a precedent case for this STA. In Goldfield NV, the FCC determined a pirate was
serving the public and gave him an STA. Recently they also gave him a CP (Construction Permit)
to build a Class A FM station.

http://radiomagonline.com/currents/fcc-sta-pirate-fm-0205/
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Let's just throw everything we know about radio engineering that we have learned fro Fesseden until now out the window because someone feels it is their right as a black man to ignore the laws of a civilized society and throw up a wire and blast RF out into the spectrum.

When he fails to conform to technical criteria and causes a plane to cross an active runway at Logan (remember the pirate in Brockton who screwed up the Logan frequencies?) let me know how you feel about pirate radio then. Maybe you will be on the plane Mr. Dutchman.

I have no problem with low power FM, but the Boston spectrum is full up and there is no room to fit a conforming signal in without causing interference with an existing legal licensee.
 
The FCC has a history of licensing pirates that goes back 81 years to 1928. There are
many stations in this land that started this way and have become good broadcasters.

I would like to see this station operate with an FCC license. They are doing neighborhood
community broadcasting. There is a need for this. And, no one else wanted to do it.

Years ago, men at the FCC showed me how to fill out FCC forms. So, I do know how
to do this. Now, I help community groups get licenses without paying thousands for
lawyers and technical consultants.

I am offering to help Touch FM in obtaining an FCC license.
 
Flying-Dutchman said:
The FCC has a history of licensing pirates that goes back 81 years to 1928. There are
many stations in this land that started this way and have become good broadcasters.
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Please provide this long list for us and enlighten those of us who are so uninformed.


Flying-Dutchman said:
Years ago, men at the FCC showed me how to fill out FCC forms. So, I do know how
to do this. Now, I help community groups get licenses without paying thousands for
lawyers and technical consultants.
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The men at the FCC showed you how to fill out the forms? How nice of them.

Please provide the list of community groups that you have helped get licenses.

Also, please enlighten us as to how to apply for a license without any engineering or legal data.


Flying-Dutchman said:
I am offering to help Touch FM in obtaining an FCC license.
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Good luck!
 
Okay, so we know Touch is in trouble. Fine.
No one can argue that they are finally doing something Boston has needed for a very long time, public interest shows.
Jamn and Kiss sure as hell aren't doing it. WILD and Hot did syndicated morning shows that did have public interest topics, but they were national issues. We need a station for the local information not just in the morning, but at the 5 - 7pm drive slots.
If Touch somehow makes it and stays on the air, I am looking forward to it.

Someone also said major companies were the first to air, which is true. But only because back then no one else thought the medium would actually survive in the 20's. Then it took them 20 years to fully recover from the release of the television as a solid medium.
 
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