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Toucher's remark has gone National

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ArtSpooner

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Toucher of Toucher and Rich apparently made a remark calling Tim Tebow and his family nazis. It's popping up on the board at AOL and links to www.nflfanhouse.com. There's a ton of comments, mostly anti-Toucher about it. I haven't heard much about this around here. Has anyone been suspended or anything?
 
I hope WBZ-FM stands up for him. Worst case, a paid vacation, er, suspension.
 
Those guys just remind me of Opie & Anthony; typical late 90's morning show. Not sure what the real draw is; but apparently I'm in the minority. They just say things they know will draw attention. Weak.
 
Rich made the announcement today on air that after just 8 months they were now beating Dennis & Callahan in the ratings. It was a pretty awesome moment.
Also, suspending Fred for his comment seems silly.
 
regardless of your feelings of the show...this really is a non story...but college football fans are like nothing else in sports
 
CBS fired Imus, who I really believe is not a racist, for a crude, bad joke. Why does this guy get nothing for basically the same offense? Of course CBS is the same network whose director of news, Dan Rather, knowingly presented false documents concerning George Bush's military service. In effect he was trying to rig an election. Eventually they eased him out,(he was in his 70s) but nothing was done for quite a while. It would appear that CBS is pretty selective about who they punish.
 
ArtSpooner said:
CBS fired Imus, who I really believe is not a racist, for a crude,bad joke. Why does this guy get nothing for basically the same offense? Of course CBS is the same network whose director of news, Dan Rather, knowingly presented false documents concerning George Bush's military service.In effect he was trying to rig an election...

A little lunchtime math lesson for ye:

Imus/Rutgers = apples
Rather/Bush = oranges
Toucher/Tebow = raspberries
 
Don Imus made fun of black people. That's a major offense. Fred Toucher made fun of white people. That's okay, because only white people are capable of taking a joke and taking things in stride. Black people are not normal like you and me and never tell jokes or rib each other.
 
Just to be clear, T & R are beating D & C in M18-34. Good for them, that is clearly the target of their show and they clearly play well to that audience. D & C however, play more to the 18-49, 25-54 demos which are far more sought after by advertisers. In those demos, D & C are still ahead. Who knows though, after the Toucher kerfuffle, maybe Callahan will feel obligated to generate an even more attention getting opinion, lord knows he's got them.
 
ArtSpooner said:
CBS fired Imus, who I really believe is not a racist, for a crude, bad joke. Why does this guy get nothing for basically the same offense?

Imus, whether he was joking or not, used terminology that's demeaning to a race and gender other than his own. The fact of the matter is, a person can make jokes about a group(race, etc.) that they are a part of, without the assumption that s/he is biased against that group. By using the term "nappy headed", Imus referred to a physical characteristic of another race that was traditionally considered inferior when compared to the characteristic of his own race.

Now, if you're saying that Toucher was being anti-Evangelical, then perhaps. But, Evangelicals are not a persecuted minority, they're the largest religious group in this country, and have sway politically. They're also not an ethnic religion, it's a belief system the one must choose to believe in. So, in this way, it's different than a person being considered "Jewish" regardless of whether they practice Judaism. Religious discrimination is wrong, but that does not mean that outsiders aren't allowed to criticize aspects of a religion. Non-Muslims argue against the lack of rights for women in Muslim society, and Non-Catholics against celibacy vows, for example. In some other countries, that may be considered persecution, but here it is not.

If Toucher was biased against Tim Tebow, I think it was for this reason: Despite being an exceptional College player, there's great debate over his future in the NFL. His willingness to change his throwing mechanics might be laudable, but the necessity of it is worrying. Tebow was a low 1st round pick and, if anything, that was higher than he was expected to be drafted. So the fact that Tebow appeared to receive at least as much attention as the top prospects prior to the draft, partly because he's considered a "good guy", was arguably unfair.

I took Toucher's comment to have the meaning of "As white as a Nazi rally", referring to uniformity rather than any deeper implication that religiosity equates fascism and genocidal tendencies. An absurd joke, that may not be funny, but not a religious or political attack. And certainly not an attack on his own race.
 
This is the epitome of "making a mountain out of a mole hill". Radio is supposed to be entertaining and these guys have to fill 4 hours a day. It was obviously a joke. I'm not positive about this but I'm pretty sure fred's wife is jewish. Imus, as much as he sucks IMHO, should not have been fired for his comments, and its really sad that this toucher thing has gotten national attention. America: For the sake of the human race, LIGHTEN UP!
 
Will said:
Don Imus made fun of black people. That's a major offense. Fred Toucher made fun of white people. That's okay, because only white people are capable of taking a joke and taking things in stride. Black people are not normal like you and me and never tell jokes or rib each other.
I hope you are just joking, if not What a RACIST STATEMENT !
 
rapking said:
Will said:
Don Imus made fun of black people. That's a major offense. Fred Toucher made fun of white people. That's okay, because only white people are capable of taking a joke and taking things in stride. Black people are not normal like you and me and never tell jokes or rib each other.
I hope you are just joking, if not What a RACIST STATEMENT !

I speak in jest. You've posted here for a long time, so I'm certain that you understand.
 
Anyone find it strange that the Herald seemingly invented this story? ie it doesn't appear anyone called the station to complain, instead the Herald deemed it newsworthy and splashed over their headlines.
 
EnterCommunicator said:
Anyone find it strange that the Herald seemingly invented this story?

Is that right? I was under the impression that the clip caught fire on Deadspin or Fanhouse or one of those websites, as was the case with the Matt Millen "polack" crack on Ron Jaworski on ESPN at the NFL Draft over the weekend, and months ago with Tony Kornheiser's criticizing ESPN colleague Hannah Storm's choice of wardrobe on his local radio show.
 
EnterCommunicator said:
Rich made the announcement today on air that after just 8 months they were now beating Dennis & Callahan in the ratings. It was a pretty awesome moment.
Callahan will have to make another METCO gorilla comment to get back on top???
Hey babe....racism sells!!
 
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