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Trainwreck 97.5

Silkie said:
Dancerev889 said:
Silkie said:
Nick said:
I tuned in to Now 97.5 and I heard several songs that don't belong on an AC.
Beyonce - Single Ladies
Beyonce - Crazy In Love
Usher - Yeah
P Diddy - I'll Be Missing You
All American Rejects - Gives You Hell
Katy Perry - Hot N Cold
Pink - Sober

Now 97.5 was good last year before Christmas. It either sounds like a bad Hot AC or a bad Mainstream AC now, or an extremely bad CHR.
At least there's Christmas music to look forward to on Halloween.


Is anyone even going to know who these people are in 10, 20 or even 50 years?

Youre kidding right? P!nk, P Diddy and Beyonce are huge stars

So were The Goo Goo Dolls and The Backstreet Boys

Yeah but the difference is that P!nk, P Diddy and Beyonce have been at the top of the charts for over a decade
 
CHRles said:
Philly has some great AC radio, including 97.5. You've got WBEB for a traditional sounding AC, you've got My 106.1 for Rhythmic AC, 95.7 Ben FM for a Rock leaning AC/Adult Hits, and there's also Adult CHR 94.5 PST.

Eh, much of the group just likes to hear themselves gripe about everything, and whine about how things aren't like they were back in some imagined glory days of the past.
 
Dancerev889 said:
Silkie said:
Dancerev889 said:
Silkie said:
Nick said:
I tuned in to Now 97.5 and I heard several songs that don't belong on an AC.
Beyonce - Single Ladies
Beyonce - Crazy In Love
Usher - Yeah
P Diddy - I'll Be Missing You
All American Rejects - Gives You Hell
Katy Perry - Hot N Cold
Pink - Sober

Now 97.5 was good last year before Christmas. It either sounds like a bad Hot AC or a bad Mainstream AC now, or an extremely bad CHR.
At least there's Christmas music to look forward to on Halloween.


Is anyone even going to know who these people are in 10, 20 or even 50 years?

Youre kidding right? P!nk, P Diddy and Beyonce are huge stars

So were The Goo Goo Dolls and The Backstreet Boys

Yeah but the difference is that P!nk, P Diddy and Beyonce have been at the top of the charts for over a decade

Pink: Barely 8 years; Beyonce: Under 10 years; P Diddy's first commercial record was barely over 10 years ago. And none reached instant stardom. Sorry, but this old gal checks the kids' stories.
 
Silkie said:
Dancerev889 said:
Silkie said:
Dancerev889 said:
Silkie said:
Nick said:
I tuned in to Now 97.5 and I heard several songs that don't belong on an AC.
Beyonce - Single Ladies
Beyonce - Crazy In Love
Usher - Yeah
P Diddy - I'll Be Missing You
All American Rejects - Gives You Hell
Katy Perry - Hot N Cold
Pink - Sober

Now 97.5 was good last year before Christmas. It either sounds like a bad Hot AC or a bad Mainstream AC now, or an extremely bad CHR.
At least there's Christmas music to look forward to on Halloween.


Is anyone even going to know who these people are in 10, 20 or even 50 years?

Youre kidding right? P!nk, P Diddy and Beyonce are huge stars

So were The Goo Goo Dolls and The Backstreet Boys

Yeah but the difference is that P!nk, P Diddy and Beyonce have been at the top of the charts for over a decade

Pink: Barely 8 years; Beyonce: Under 10 years; P Diddy's first commercial record was barely over 10 years ago. And none reached instant stardom. Sorry, but this old gal checks the kids' stories.

You have me on Pink but P Diddy has been around since the mid 90's with Notorious B.I.G. and in 1997 had a smash hit Ill be missing you which at the MTV music awards the chorus was sung by Sting. His album went number one. You might also remember a little war between the east and west coast rappers. Beyonce has been around since at least 1997 with a group called Destiny's Child. Their first single went platinum in 1997. She is a star and besides she is now playing major roles in movies.
 
Dancerev889 said:
Silkie said:
Dancerev889 said:
Silkie said:
Dancerev889 said:
Silkie said:
Nick said:
I tuned in to Now 97.5 and I heard several songs that don't belong on an AC.
Beyonce - Single Ladies
Beyonce - Crazy In Love
Usher - Yeah
P Diddy - I'll Be Missing You
All American Rejects - Gives You Hell
Katy Perry - Hot N Cold
Pink - Sober

Now 97.5 was good last year before Christmas. It either sounds like a bad Hot AC or a bad Mainstream AC now, or an extremely bad CHR.
At least there's Christmas music to look forward to on Halloween.


Is anyone even going to know who these people are in 10, 20 or even 50 years?

Youre kidding right? P!nk, P Diddy and Beyonce are huge stars

So were The Goo Goo Dolls and The Backstreet Boys

Yeah but the difference is that P!nk, P Diddy and Beyonce have been at the top of the charts for over a decade

Pink: Barely 8 years; Beyonce: Under 10 years; P Diddy's first commercial record was barely over 10 years ago. And none reached instant stardom. Sorry, but this old gal checks the kids' stories.

You have me on Pink but P Diddy has been around since the mid 90's with Notorious B.I.G. and in 1997 had a smash hit Ill be missing you which at the MTV music awards the chorus was sung by Sting. His album went number one. You might also remember a little war between the east and west coast rappers. Beyonce has been around since at least 1997 with a group called Destiny's Child. Their first single went platinum in 1997. She is a star and besides she is now playing major roles in movies.

The East Coast/West Coast rap war was between Notorious B.I.G., who was Puff Daddy's client, and not Puff Daddy himself.

(Sorry, just thought I'd find a way to piggyback onto this endless thread quoting marathon...)
 
The East Coast/West Coast rap war was between Notorious B.I.G., who was Puff Daddy's client, and not Puff Daddy himself.

(Sorry, just thought I'd find a way to piggyback onto this endless thread quoting marathon...)

And in his early days he started a record label, which also was not P Diddy or Puff Daddy. He has a fashion line as well. Beyonce is still nobody, regardless of what some who are not in the majority may think. And P!nk will be forgotten as well. It's just the way it is. In 20, 40, 60 years nobody will remember or care.
 
Was 97.5 off the air this morning or something? Major static and I could barely get a signal in South Philly at about 8:30. (It's not my radio, every other station was fine).
 
There was tropo this morning, so if Now 97.5 was off the air, you would be getting a weak signal of WALK 97.5
 
Nick said:
There was tropo this morning, so if Now 97.5 was off the air, you would be getting a weak signal of WALK 97.5

Which has essentially the same format as WNUW, which would make sense.
 
All of the songs are hits. Most of the artists are popular, many have been or will be around for awhile. Those aren't the issues. The problem is Philadelphia is terrible market for Hot AC.. It's been tried several times before and always fails.
 
These formats we in radio have created don't have a lot of traction in the real world. People don't listen to focused radio formats, but rather songs they like. If they happen to cross formats, oh well. I really believe we are in the final years of traditional formated music radio, because the audience simply doesn't live in these musical boxes. Their musical tastes are trainwrecks!
 
My music taste crosses many musical formats from 50s doo wop to current dance. But I like hearing only one format at a time.
 
Ah, but not true for everyone, and what matters as much as anything is how the audience--broadly speaking--looks at "formats." Just because some diehard message board posters don't think songs "A," "B" and "C" fit format "X" doesn't mean the audience makes such a distinction.
 
That's why radios have more than one preset button, people like different types of music. In parts of NJ, you can fill all the presets (assuming 6 preset spaces) with CHR stations, AC stations, oldies/classic rock stations, and even all pirate stations! Most people have different formats on their presets. However, a person who likes AC but not CHR won't like Now 97.5 and most likely won't listen to it at work all day. The set of people who like both AC AND CHR is smaller than the set of people that like only one type. The set of people that like AC OR like CHR is larger than the set of people that like only AC. Therefore, the majority of Now 97.5's listeners (AC or CHR) will be pushing buttons between songs rather than leaving the radio alone (AC and CHR). For other stations with a defined format, people would be more likely to leave the station on till the commercials or all day at work.
 
imhomerjay said:
Ah, but not true for everyone, and what matters as much as anything is how the audience--broadly speaking--looks at "formats." Just because some diehard message board posters don't think songs "A," "B" and "C" fit format "X" doesn't mean the audience makes such a distinction.

The listener, especially one in a car with six buttons, needs to know what he/she is going to get when he/she pushes a button, or else he/she will never push the button. The only way to do that is with a focused format, even though you accept that listeners will tune elsewhere when they, inevitably, want to hear something other than your format.
 
aindik said:
The only way to do that is with a focused format, even though you accept that listeners will tune elsewhere when they, inevitably, want to hear something other than your format.

The goal of programming a radio station is to keep listeners from tuning away. The "focused format" approach leads to boring, bland radio. Especially with soft rock. So throw in a song people don't expect, one that fits the life group and isn't a turn off, and you'll shake people up, get them talking, and keep them on your station. At least until the commercials take over.
 
TheBigA said:
The goal of programming a radio station is to keep listeners from tuning away.

That's half the goal - the second half. The first half is getting them to listen in the first place.

It is unrealistic to expect anybody to only listen to one radio station.
 
aindik said:
It is unrealistic to expect anybody to only listen to one radio station.


That may be, but there's no sin in musical variety. It's what made Top 40 so successful. You could hear The Beatles and Frank Sinatra on the same station, and often did.

One of the reasons country is so successful is because of the musical variety. That annoys a lot of country purists, but demonstrates that music can't be easily typecast or formatted. Which is why I say format radio, as we've known it for the last 30 years, is in its dying days.
 
TheBigA said:
aindik said:
The only way to do that is with a focused format, even though you accept that listeners will tune elsewhere when they, inevitably, want to hear something other than your format.

The goal of programming a radio station is to keep listeners from tuning away. The "focused format" approach leads to boring, bland radio. Especially with soft rock. So throw in a song people don't expect, one that fits the life group and isn't a turn off, and you'll shake people up, get them talking, and keep them on your station. At least until the commercials take over.
A disco song usually won't be a turn-off for an AC station. Songs like Shaggy - Angel would be a turn-off, especially for the soccer moms.
 
Nick said:
A disco song usually won't be a turn-off for an AC station. Songs like Shaggy - Angel would be a turn-off, especially for the soccer moms.

Not anymore. The song is 8 years old. A 25-30 year old remembers the song from when they were in high school or college (ages 17-22). Also, the hook is from a song from 1981.
 
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