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84knowsmore
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When did Jody Dean become such an intolerable bible thumper?
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> When did Jody Dean become such an intolerable bible thumper?
>
A rather rude slam... I think it's tolerable for Jody to express his views. His staement is grounded in historical fact.
Back to the subject: I remember all those 'Christmas' seasons, with the extra workload of getting all those christmas commercials written, recorded and scheduled, all the obligatory christmas parties (where you wish they'd just pay us what it cost to watch the sales department get drunk) all the stress of having to prepare for the holiday absences, plus the pressure of lining up and paying for all the gifts for all the people you care about. Then, there'd be that magical moment on Christmas eve, when everything is done, all the responsibilities are met, and WHAM! it's over! Christmas is gone. Everything is looking forward to New Years.
I began to take the months leading up to Christmas as a time of penance. The holiday itself is a personal time for me and my immediate family. If there's christmas music on the radio before Christmas, I'll just find another station.
And I'll stay out of the malls and the big boxes, and shop on line or by mail.
Merry Christmas, Haunnukah, Ramadam, Tet, Festivus, Kawanzza or whatever. See you in church Christmas morning.
gc
>
A rather rude slam... I think it's tolerable for Jody to express his views. His staement is grounded in historical fact.
Back to the subject: I remember all those 'Christmas' seasons, with the extra workload of getting all those christmas commercials written, recorded and scheduled, all the obligatory christmas parties (where you wish they'd just pay us what it cost to watch the sales department get drunk) all the stress of having to prepare for the holiday absences, plus the pressure of lining up and paying for all the gifts for all the people you care about. Then, there'd be that magical moment on Christmas eve, when everything is done, all the responsibilities are met, and WHAM! it's over! Christmas is gone. Everything is looking forward to New Years.
I began to take the months leading up to Christmas as a time of penance. The holiday itself is a personal time for me and my immediate family. If there's christmas music on the radio before Christmas, I'll just find another station.
And I'll stay out of the malls and the big boxes, and shop on line or by mail.
Merry Christmas, Haunnukah, Ramadam, Tet, Festivus, Kawanzza or whatever. See you in church Christmas morning.
gc
J
Jimprewitt1954
Guest
> Oh yes, let's all stop and shed a tear for the poor,
> picked-upon, completely helpless Christian minority in this
> country who never, ever gets what it wants.
>
> Oh wait, I forgot, we're talking about the US. They're only
> in charge of every branch of government and do their best to
> run (ruin?) everyone else's life.
>
> Give me a break.
>
> > And now there are two Christmas stations. Only I wouldn't
>
> > call most of the stuff on KVIL Christmas music. Winter
> > holiday music maybe. Christmas carols, it would seem, are
>
> > politically incorrect. So they are relegated to Christian
>
> > stations.
RADIO6:
If you don't like it, why don't you move to Saudi Arabia or Iran.
> >
>
<P ID="signature">______________
Good Night and Good Luck.</P><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by CatfishJimPrewitt on 11/17/05 10:08 AM.</FONT></P>
> picked-upon, completely helpless Christian minority in this
> country who never, ever gets what it wants.
>
> Oh wait, I forgot, we're talking about the US. They're only
> in charge of every branch of government and do their best to
> run (ruin?) everyone else's life.
>
> Give me a break.
>
> > And now there are two Christmas stations. Only I wouldn't
>
> > call most of the stuff on KVIL Christmas music. Winter
> > holiday music maybe. Christmas carols, it would seem, are
>
> > politically incorrect. So they are relegated to Christian
>
> > stations.
RADIO6:
If you don't like it, why don't you move to Saudi Arabia or Iran.
> >
>
<P ID="signature">______________
Good Night and Good Luck.</P><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by CatfishJimPrewitt on 11/17/05 10:08 AM.</FONT></P>
> I would never consider starting a religion post on a radio
> board, but will I respond to one? You bet.
>
Scroll down and look at thwe column on the left. Under the "Format" section you will find a "Religion" board.
> board, but will I respond to one? You bet.
>
Scroll down and look at thwe column on the left. Under the "Format" section you will find a "Religion" board.
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GSG
Guest
Hey I don't have a dog in the fight, but it would seem that you are extremely bitter. I personally don't care what you do, but the bitterness rings out. Nowhere in Bruce's point does he say that one is better than the other, just the fact that the two Christmas stations are different in their approach. Again, I must reference what one poster stated. We live in a good country, a great country, not a perfect one. It is far better than the Iran's & Iraq's of the world. We are not beheaded for our thoughts, faith, rantings, etc....You don't have to ageee with every point on this board. You don't have to agree with anything, but don't namecall and lump all Christians or people of faith in one box. I don't lump every Athiest, Agnostic, or non Christian in the same box.
> I may be anti-christian (anti-evangelical to be more precise
> --- growing up in Dallas seems to do that to a lot of
> people) but I am far from ignorant --- especially about you
> people. I am in fact very familiar with this particular
> brand of nonsense.
>
> As noted below, I didn't start the political rant, that was
> the thread starter. I just responded. You may think his
> point is valid, I don't. Difference of opinion. Oh, wait,
> I forgot, "god" likes your point so that makes it better?
> My bad. [snort]
>
> And maybe one of the forums over at the 700 Club would be a
> better place for you.
>
> >
> >
> > Please take your ignorant anti-Christian sentiments
> > somewhere else. Your post has basically no point other
> than
> > to be launching pad for a political rant (that none of us
> on
> > Dallas board want to hear). Bruce was making a valid
> point
> > about political correctness (as it relates to Christmas
> > radio programming, nothing else) and a reference to a
> > message currently running on-air at KLTY.
> >
> > Maybe one of the MoveOn.org forums would be a better place
>
> > for you.
> >
> > HR
> >
>
> I may be anti-christian (anti-evangelical to be more precise
> --- growing up in Dallas seems to do that to a lot of
> people) but I am far from ignorant --- especially about you
> people. I am in fact very familiar with this particular
> brand of nonsense.
>
> As noted below, I didn't start the political rant, that was
> the thread starter. I just responded. You may think his
> point is valid, I don't. Difference of opinion. Oh, wait,
> I forgot, "god" likes your point so that makes it better?
> My bad. [snort]
>
> And maybe one of the forums over at the 700 Club would be a
> better place for you.
>
> >
> >
> > Please take your ignorant anti-Christian sentiments
> > somewhere else. Your post has basically no point other
> than
> > to be launching pad for a political rant (that none of us
> on
> > Dallas board want to hear). Bruce was making a valid
> point
> > about political correctness (as it relates to Christmas
> > radio programming, nothing else) and a reference to a
> > message currently running on-air at KLTY.
> >
> > Maybe one of the MoveOn.org forums would be a better place
>
> > for you.
> >
> > HR
> >
>
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rbrucecarter
Guest
> (anti-evangelical to be more precise
Believe it or not, I TOTALLY agree with you on that point! Some of the so-called Christians are really aggressive, annoying, control freaks. Sad to say, but some of the worst treatment I have ever had has been at the hands of Christians. If I had to pick a faith based on its followers, I probably wouldn't be a Christian at all. But you look to the founder of the faith, in this case Christ, instead of his followers, and you find a lot more truth than with the others. Not that I am trying to convert you, because you've been hurt by JERKS, you don't want to hear it, and the jerks will be judged for that - they will not get away with it.
> As noted below, I didn't start the political rant, that was
> the thread starter. I just responded.
Perhaps I am a bit defensive about it - it offends me when people try to secularize the commemoration of the birth of Christ (I think you are right on the timing, too, December 25th is all wrong). Christmas has become a Christian holiday with almost 2000 years of tradition behind it - leave it alone - don't try to make it a secular "winter festival". If somebody doesn't like Christmas, let them celebrate Kwanza, the solstice, Hannukah, or whatever else. But they shouldn't get defensive when 90% of the people around them celebrate Christmas, its not a competition, the other 10% need to lighten up. When I travel to Moslem countries, I don't get in their face about their stuff - its no threat to my faith, I know who I am and what I believe and if that stuff makes them happy - go for it. I would make about as much headway protesting over there as anti-Christmas people do over here. Except I might get my head cut off for my trouble over there. As far as tolerance goes, its much better here as people have pointed out.
I should have posted: there are now two stations playing holiday music in Dallas, KLTY plays Christmas music, KVIL playing winter holiday music. There is some overlap. KLTY plays some winter holiday, KVIL some Christmas. Is that non-political enough for everybody?
You may think his
> point is valid, I don't. Difference of opinion. Oh, wait,
> I forgot, "god" likes your point so that makes it better?
> My bad. [snort]
>
> And maybe one of the forums over at the 700 Club would be a
> better place for you.
>
> >
> >
> > Please take your ignorant anti-Christian sentiments
> > somewhere else. Your post has basically no point other
> than
> > to be launching pad for a political rant (that none of us
> on
> > Dallas board want to hear). Bruce was making a valid
> point
> > about political correctness (as it relates to Christmas
> > radio programming, nothing else) and a reference to a
> > message currently running on-air at KLTY.
> >
> > Maybe one of the MoveOn.org forums would be a better place
>
> > for you.
> >
> > HR
> >
>
Believe it or not, I TOTALLY agree with you on that point! Some of the so-called Christians are really aggressive, annoying, control freaks. Sad to say, but some of the worst treatment I have ever had has been at the hands of Christians. If I had to pick a faith based on its followers, I probably wouldn't be a Christian at all. But you look to the founder of the faith, in this case Christ, instead of his followers, and you find a lot more truth than with the others. Not that I am trying to convert you, because you've been hurt by JERKS, you don't want to hear it, and the jerks will be judged for that - they will not get away with it.
> As noted below, I didn't start the political rant, that was
> the thread starter. I just responded.
Perhaps I am a bit defensive about it - it offends me when people try to secularize the commemoration of the birth of Christ (I think you are right on the timing, too, December 25th is all wrong). Christmas has become a Christian holiday with almost 2000 years of tradition behind it - leave it alone - don't try to make it a secular "winter festival". If somebody doesn't like Christmas, let them celebrate Kwanza, the solstice, Hannukah, or whatever else. But they shouldn't get defensive when 90% of the people around them celebrate Christmas, its not a competition, the other 10% need to lighten up. When I travel to Moslem countries, I don't get in their face about their stuff - its no threat to my faith, I know who I am and what I believe and if that stuff makes them happy - go for it. I would make about as much headway protesting over there as anti-Christmas people do over here. Except I might get my head cut off for my trouble over there. As far as tolerance goes, its much better here as people have pointed out.
I should have posted: there are now two stations playing holiday music in Dallas, KLTY plays Christmas music, KVIL playing winter holiday music. There is some overlap. KLTY plays some winter holiday, KVIL some Christmas. Is that non-political enough for everybody?
You may think his
> point is valid, I don't. Difference of opinion. Oh, wait,
> I forgot, "god" likes your point so that makes it better?
> My bad. [snort]
>
> And maybe one of the forums over at the 700 Club would be a
> better place for you.
>
> >
> >
> > Please take your ignorant anti-Christian sentiments
> > somewhere else. Your post has basically no point other
> than
> > to be launching pad for a political rant (that none of us
> on
> > Dallas board want to hear). Bruce was making a valid
> point
> > about political correctness (as it relates to Christmas
> > radio programming, nothing else) and a reference to a
> > message currently running on-air at KLTY.
> >
> > Maybe one of the MoveOn.org forums would be a better place
>
> > for you.
> >
> > HR
> >
>
K
KPLEXCOMPLEX
Guest
> A rather rude slam... I think it's tolerable for Jody to
> express his views. His staement is grounded in historical
> fact.
> Back to the subject: I remember all those 'Christmas'
> seasons, with the extra workload of getting all those
> christmas commercials written, recorded and scheduled, all
> the obligatory christmas parties (where you wish they'd just
> pay us what it cost to watch the sales department get drunk)
> all the stress of having to prepare for the holiday
> absences, plus the pressure of lining up and paying for all
> the gifts for all the people you care about. Then, there'd
> be that magical moment on Christmas eve, when everything is
> done, all the responsibilities are met, and WHAM! it's over!
> Christmas is gone. Everything is looking forward to New
> Years.
> I began to take the months leading up to Christmas as a time
> of penance. The holiday itself is a personal time for me and
> my immediate family. If there's christmas music on the radio
> before Christmas, I'll just find another station.
> And I'll stay out of the malls and the big boxes, and shop
> on line or by mail.
> Merry Christmas, Haunnukah, Ramadam, Tet, Festivus, Kawanzza
> or whatever. See you in church Christmas morning.
> gc
>
Good post Grant. Jody may have been a bit long in his recitation,but so be it.
You bring up an interesting scenario,station Christmas parties. How many here feel pressured and obligated to attend? I myself and speaking only for myself have never understood the purpose of getting dressed up then getting drunk with co-workers has anything to do with Christ's birth? I have attended a few when asked several times in the course of a work week,especially by the boss if I was going to be there. Asyears went by I finally said enough, and refused to go only to be looked down upon as "not a team player".The parties were more for the sales people and office management anyways. The funny thing about the holidays,once New Years day was over, cuts are announced a couple of weeks later.
> express his views. His staement is grounded in historical
> fact.
> Back to the subject: I remember all those 'Christmas'
> seasons, with the extra workload of getting all those
> christmas commercials written, recorded and scheduled, all
> the obligatory christmas parties (where you wish they'd just
> pay us what it cost to watch the sales department get drunk)
> all the stress of having to prepare for the holiday
> absences, plus the pressure of lining up and paying for all
> the gifts for all the people you care about. Then, there'd
> be that magical moment on Christmas eve, when everything is
> done, all the responsibilities are met, and WHAM! it's over!
> Christmas is gone. Everything is looking forward to New
> Years.
> I began to take the months leading up to Christmas as a time
> of penance. The holiday itself is a personal time for me and
> my immediate family. If there's christmas music on the radio
> before Christmas, I'll just find another station.
> And I'll stay out of the malls and the big boxes, and shop
> on line or by mail.
> Merry Christmas, Haunnukah, Ramadam, Tet, Festivus, Kawanzza
> or whatever. See you in church Christmas morning.
> gc
>
Good post Grant. Jody may have been a bit long in his recitation,but so be it.
You bring up an interesting scenario,station Christmas parties. How many here feel pressured and obligated to attend? I myself and speaking only for myself have never understood the purpose of getting dressed up then getting drunk with co-workers has anything to do with Christ's birth? I have attended a few when asked several times in the course of a work week,especially by the boss if I was going to be there. Asyears went by I finally said enough, and refused to go only to be looked down upon as "not a team player".The parties were more for the sales people and office management anyways. The funny thing about the holidays,once New Years day was over, cuts are announced a couple of weeks later.
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rbrucecarter
Guest
Re: Christmas and Advent
> Thanks for that info and opinion, RX... I'd forgotten about
> Advent. Now that we have the extremes posted (your Catholic
> view, my pagan view), perhaps we'll get some middle ground
> thoughts from the rest of these people!
Just try to find a house with its Christmas lights still on by January 7th - or worse yet leave them up until January 7th. Can we say - vandalism?
> Thanks for that info and opinion, RX... I'd forgotten about
> Advent. Now that we have the extremes posted (your Catholic
> view, my pagan view), perhaps we'll get some middle ground
> thoughts from the rest of these people!
Just try to find a house with its Christmas lights still on by January 7th - or worse yet leave them up until January 7th. Can we say - vandalism?
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rbrucecarter
Guest
> Wouldn't it be nice if the world worked like that? Well, it
> doesn't. Evangelicals believe it is their right to
> interfere with others who don't believe like they do and
> those who don't live like the evangelicals think they should
> live. If they left people alone, there would be fewer
> problems. As it is, I say anyone who doesn't agree should
> stand up. Silence is always taken by evangelicals to be
> assent.
You think you've had a problem with evangelicals? Try tangling with creationist nuts sometime! Just try being a Christian and saying you don't buy their load of $h_t interpretation of Genesis. Stand back and wait for fireballs of hatred from them.
> doesn't. Evangelicals believe it is their right to
> interfere with others who don't believe like they do and
> those who don't live like the evangelicals think they should
> live. If they left people alone, there would be fewer
> problems. As it is, I say anyone who doesn't agree should
> stand up. Silence is always taken by evangelicals to be
> assent.
You think you've had a problem with evangelicals? Try tangling with creationist nuts sometime! Just try being a Christian and saying you don't buy their load of $h_t interpretation of Genesis. Stand back and wait for fireballs of hatred from them.
Evangelical used to mean one who believed so strongly about the good news (gospel) that they wanted to share it. It wasn't a political term and the key word was share, not beat someone over the head with it. I always thought that Jesus was born in a barn to poor parents to teach us that even the King of Kings brought his message to earth humbly. I am reminded of the Christmas eve service that I attended where am older man was asked his favorite Christmas carol. His reply was Jingle Bells. Some of our more pious members were taken aback by his worldlyness but he explained that the song reminded him of his family (both here and departed) and the love and joy that they shared during the Christmas season. I know it may sound corny but that is my true wish for you, both believer and non believer. I can't do it better than the angels. I wish you peace and goodwill.
>
>
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brotherjohn
Guest
Re: Christmas and Advent
>
>
> Just try to find a house with its Christmas lights still on
> by January 7th - or worse yet leave them up until January
> 7th. Can we say - vandalism?
>
Can you say redneck? At some houses they never take them down.<P ID="signature">______________
i'm on a mexican radio</P>
>
>
> Just try to find a house with its Christmas lights still on
> by January 7th - or worse yet leave them up until January
> 7th. Can we say - vandalism?
>
Can you say redneck? At some houses they never take them down.<P ID="signature">______________
i'm on a mexican radio</P>
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brotherjohn
Guest
> When did Jody Dean become such an intolerable bible thumper?
>
When he wrote a book about God in the news? <P ID="signature">______________
i'm on a mexican radio</P>
>
When he wrote a book about God in the news? <P ID="signature">______________
i'm on a mexican radio</P>
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dean1
Guest
The thread was initially about radio's handling of Christmas music given the religous nature of the holiday. One historical perspective was offered, and my two posts were meant to give alternative historical perspectives. If any thumping occured, the thumpee was a history book.
And since the question was asked, I became a Believer when acknowledgement of my own futility became unavoidable.
Good post, justateach. Some people are touched by Handel, others by ho-ho-ho. Either way...
Jody
> Evangelical used to mean one who believed so strongly about
> the good news (gospel) that they wanted to share it. It
> wasn't a political term and the key word was share, not beat
> someone over the head with it. I always thought that Jesus
> was born in a barn to poor parents to teach us that even the
> King of Kings brought his message to earth humbly. I am
> reminded of the Christmas eve service that I attended where
> am older man was asked his favorite Christmas carol. His
> reply was Jingle Bells. Some of our more pious members were
> taken aback by his worldlyness but he explained that the
> song reminded him of his family (both here and departed) and
> the love and joy that they shared during the Christmas
> season. I know it may sound corny but that is my true wish
> for you, both believer and non believer. I can't do it
> better than the angels. I wish you peace and goodwill.
> >
>
And since the question was asked, I became a Believer when acknowledgement of my own futility became unavoidable.
Good post, justateach. Some people are touched by Handel, others by ho-ho-ho. Either way...
Jody
> Evangelical used to mean one who believed so strongly about
> the good news (gospel) that they wanted to share it. It
> wasn't a political term and the key word was share, not beat
> someone over the head with it. I always thought that Jesus
> was born in a barn to poor parents to teach us that even the
> King of Kings brought his message to earth humbly. I am
> reminded of the Christmas eve service that I attended where
> am older man was asked his favorite Christmas carol. His
> reply was Jingle Bells. Some of our more pious members were
> taken aback by his worldlyness but he explained that the
> song reminded him of his family (both here and departed) and
> the love and joy that they shared during the Christmas
> season. I know it may sound corny but that is my true wish
> for you, both believer and non believer. I can't do it
> better than the angels. I wish you peace and goodwill.
> >
>
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MisterX
Guest
Blah Blah Blah, from the day after Thanksgiving until noon Christmas day, play Andy Williams, Elmo & Patsy, Dean Martin, Nat King Cole, John and Yoko, Cheech & Chong or whatever to celebrate the birth of the baby Jesus. Just keep this in mind...only 33% of the world's population "buys in" to the story of Christmas. Ho Ho Ho-ly Crap!
> And now there are two Christmas stations. Only I wouldn't
> call most of the stuff on KVIL Christmas music. Winter
> holiday music maybe. Christmas carols, it would seem, are
> politically incorrect. So they are relegated to Christian
> stations.
>
Move to Louisville, KY. I've heard "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen" TWICE today on the same station (granted, it was by the Barenaked Ladies and Sarah MacLachlin), and heard one of the station's on-air personalities rave about a Jars of Clay christmas song.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> call most of the stuff on KVIL Christmas music. Winter
> holiday music maybe. Christmas carols, it would seem, are
> politically incorrect. So they are relegated to Christian
> stations.
>
Move to Louisville, KY. I've heard "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen" TWICE today on the same station (granted, it was by the Barenaked Ladies and Sarah MacLachlin), and heard one of the station's on-air personalities rave about a Jars of Clay christmas song.<P ID="signature">______________
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OldiesCat
Guest
True Christmas music
So, EVERYBODY has to air what you call "true" Christmas music? Isn't this why we have (here's a neat concept) choices? Being on a Christian station that's as great as KLTY isn't being "relegated", like it's some bad thing.
I am a devout Christian but I would never criticize KVIL for their brand of holiday music, especially when we can get the better stuff on KLTY.
It doesn't make either station right or wrong- just different. Having the choices is a GOOD thing.
> And now there are two Christmas stations. Only I wouldn't
> call most of the stuff on KVIL Christmas music. Winter
> holiday music maybe. Christmas carols, it would seem, are
> politically incorrect. So they are relegated to Christian
> stations.
>
So, EVERYBODY has to air what you call "true" Christmas music? Isn't this why we have (here's a neat concept) choices? Being on a Christian station that's as great as KLTY isn't being "relegated", like it's some bad thing.
I am a devout Christian but I would never criticize KVIL for their brand of holiday music, especially when we can get the better stuff on KLTY.
It doesn't make either station right or wrong- just different. Having the choices is a GOOD thing.
> And now there are two Christmas stations. Only I wouldn't
> call most of the stuff on KVIL Christmas music. Winter
> holiday music maybe. Christmas carols, it would seem, are
> politically incorrect. So they are relegated to Christian
> stations.
>
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rbrucecarter
Guest
Re: True Christmas music
> So, EVERYBODY has to air what you call "true" Christmas
> music? Isn't this why we have (here's a neat concept)
> choices? Being on a Christian station that's as great as
> KLTY isn't being "relegated", like it's some bad thing.
Whoa - calm down! One thing is for sure, I sure got a lively thread going here!
Yes - I am defensive when anti-Christian bigots try to re-define Christmas as a secular "winter holiday". They are taking politcal correctness too far when they force that type of stuff down the 70% to 90% of us who are Christians in this country - depending on which poll you use. Why is it a threat to them? Are they so insecure in their own belief structure that they can't stand to hear the phrase "Merry Christmas" without their insecurity being offended? When the Moslem guy I work with celebrated Ramadan - I didn't always get in his face and try to make him eat before sunset. His Moslem faith is no threat to me, I know who I am and what I believe. Same with anybody else, celebrate Hannukah, Kwanza, or whatever - I'm not going to presume to change any of your rituals, expressions, or traditions. So to those who presume to re-define Christmas to be more "inclusive" - just respect Christians whose holiday it is and quit trying to secularize Christmas and we'll be just fine.
My post probably should have read "Dallas now has two stations playing holiday music, KLTY and KVIL." Although there is considerable overlap - KLTY plays more traditional Christmas music, while KVIL plays more winter holiday music."
There is that politically correct enough not to offend any atheists insecure sensitivities? Sheesh - lighten up!!!!
> So, EVERYBODY has to air what you call "true" Christmas
> music? Isn't this why we have (here's a neat concept)
> choices? Being on a Christian station that's as great as
> KLTY isn't being "relegated", like it's some bad thing.
Whoa - calm down! One thing is for sure, I sure got a lively thread going here!
Yes - I am defensive when anti-Christian bigots try to re-define Christmas as a secular "winter holiday". They are taking politcal correctness too far when they force that type of stuff down the 70% to 90% of us who are Christians in this country - depending on which poll you use. Why is it a threat to them? Are they so insecure in their own belief structure that they can't stand to hear the phrase "Merry Christmas" without their insecurity being offended? When the Moslem guy I work with celebrated Ramadan - I didn't always get in his face and try to make him eat before sunset. His Moslem faith is no threat to me, I know who I am and what I believe. Same with anybody else, celebrate Hannukah, Kwanza, or whatever - I'm not going to presume to change any of your rituals, expressions, or traditions. So to those who presume to re-define Christmas to be more "inclusive" - just respect Christians whose holiday it is and quit trying to secularize Christmas and we'll be just fine.
My post probably should have read "Dallas now has two stations playing holiday music, KLTY and KVIL." Although there is considerable overlap - KLTY plays more traditional Christmas music, while KVIL plays more winter holiday music."
There is that politically correct enough not to offend any atheists insecure sensitivities? Sheesh - lighten up!!!!
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