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URBAN IS #1 & #2 IN CHARLOTTE

I have lived in Charlotte a month now.....the only reason why Power 98 and V101 are the 1 and 2 stations is because there is NO COMPETITION!!!!! Power 98 wins by default. This stations SUCKS!! Very stale and lame....sounds more like urban ac then urban. Now if 102 Jamz from greensboro was in Charlotte and Power stayed #1 then i would be surprised!! When you have a monopoly over something, being number one comes by default. This well under served #24 market gets more choices then this will continue to be the result.

Man i miss Atlanta....
 
Hell that's all what Atlanta is!! Why do they call it "URBAN"... It's Black Rap, Rand B but nothing like the old Rand B that Barry Gordy produced in the 60's!!!BIGAPE
 
Gordy produced "safe" r & b for white kids. It was good music, but most of the Black audience
preferred James Brown, Joe Tex, and others.

Ape, younger people don't want safe, they want edgy, you know, the way you liked the Electric Prunes
the Amboy Dukes. ;)
 
surfdude said:
Gordy produced "safe" r & b for white kids. It was good music, but most of the Black audience
preferred James Brown, Joe Tex, and others.

Ape, younger people don't want safe, they want edgy, you know, the way you liked the Electric Prunes
the Amboy Dukes. ;)
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Now that was some music!!!!BIGAPE!
 
urbanradio704 said:
Guess who's still running the market?? Power & V on top again!!! Oh yeah!!!
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i know im new to the charlotte board....via atl board...but dude...what is ur fascination with these two stations??? why is it that serious? i dont qet it
 
AJ JAM said:
urbanradio704 said:
Guess who's still running the market?? Power & V on top again!!! Oh yeah!!!
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i know im new to the charlotte board....via atl board...but dude...what is ur fascination with these two stations??? why is it that serious? i dont qet it
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I think he either works there or wants to and is kissing up in hopes of getting a job!
 
WEND is a monopoly, the only Alternative station in the market. When was the last time you seen any decent numbers from them?? Your arguement is dismissed. They're not #1, not even close. Urban runs Charlotte! Oh yeah!
 
urbanradio704 said:
WEND is a monopoly, the only Alternative station in the market. When was the last time you seen any decent numbers from them?? Your arguement is dismissed. They're not #1, not even close. Urban runs Charlotte! Oh yeah!
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Where' does WEND come into this? I missed that post.

I repeat myself from an earlier post:

Urbanradio704, why don't you use the "quotes" so we know you're addressing your remarks to.
 
My reply is to the person who said if a station is a monopoly they will be #1, I said that's not true bc WEND is a monopoly & their ratings are crap. Don't be mad u can't compete! :D
 
urbanradio704 said:
My reply is to the person who said if a station is a monopoly they will be #1, I said that's not true bc WEND is a monopoly & their ratings are crap. Don't be mad u can't compete! :D
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You are a complete idiot....you took my post completely out of context.......
 
Yes he is an idiot. 37% of Charlotte's population is african american and they have 2 100kw stations to choose from, 97.9 for the younger demo and 101.9 for the older demo. White folks have 2 100kw country stations, 2 100kw AC stations, 2 100kw Top 40 stations, 2 100kw classic rock stations and 1 100kw rock station. Who can't compete? Your statements make no sense. 9 100kw primarily white formats vs. 2 100kw primarily black formats. Of course BAV and PEG get great ratings. It has nothing to do wth "we can't compete." It's about the target demo and the size of the pie slice. I am a middle class south Charlotte white guy and don't know a soul who listens to BAV or PEG.

EDIT: Make that 10 stations, I forgot 107.9!
 
There are actually 5 black formatted stations WPEG, WBAV, WQNC, WPZS, & WGIV, yet WPEG & WBAV are beating all ten of your white stations by a landslide! Oh yeah. U can't compete. Charlotte's black population is also alot more than 37%. It's 2010, 2000 census data is not accurate anymore. 2008 market research shows 48% black population. White folk are becoming the minority in Charlotte market. That's probably why noone is listening to their ten stations! lmao. Southeast Charlotte is the only predominately white part of town anymore. Minorities are taking over! Oh yeah!
 
Again, I said 2 100kw stations! The other 3 you stated are low powered stations and that is why BAV and PEG beat them. The other 3 just don't have the market penetration. What is with your racially based statements? Take over? Really? Is that what this is all about? Racial domination? How immature are you? Your own statements deflate your argument. If 48% of Charlotte's population has only 5 stations to choose from and only 2 are high powered stations, of course those 2 stations will have higher ratings. It has nothing to do with the other 10 stations not competeing. If there were 10 black formatted stations and 2 white stations, the two white stations would have huge ratings too. What is so hard to understand. Can you not see through your color tinted glasses?
 
The "current" (latest) Black population of the Arbitron designated Charlotte Metro is 21%.

Add up the shares of the Black targeted stations and see what you get.

Urbanradio704's a troll who doesn't know how to read an Arbitron book.
 
surfdude said:
The "current" (latest) Black population of the Arbitron designated Charlotte Metro is 21%.
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Good point. This is a radio ratings discussion, and the radio MSA is made up of 11 counties, with this population break.

Anson, NC 25
Cabarrus, NC 176.3
Cleveland, NC 98.3
Gaston, NC 208
Iredell, NC 161.3
Lincoln, NC 75.2
Mecklenburg, NC 942.8
Rowan, NC 139.2
Stanly, NC 60.1
Union, NC 202.7
Chester, SC 32.4
Lancaster, SC 77.1
York, SC 228.3

Arbitron updates its population each year with data that comes from Claritas and is based on the annual ACS (American Community Survey) from the Census. For the diary, the observed population is 12+ and in the PPM, it is 6+, so here are differences betweent he Arbitron universe and the total population.

Also worth noting... the Census has Metropolitan Statistical Areas and Arbitron has Metro Survey Areas, both with the same initials, but not always the same counties and geography because the Arbitron definition is at least in part based on radio listening patterns.

The Charlotte Radio Market is approximately 21% African American. I have seen claims that it is nearly 50% Black in this thread, and those claims obviously come from people who neither understand radio ratings geography nor the concept of a metropolitan area.

Particularly interesting is the fact that the market has 55 commercial radio stations, and the leading analyist of station values and radio data considers just 14 to be viable... meaning a good enough population coverage (day and night for AM) to compete successfully.

Only 2 AMs are viable (the obvious ones) and three of the Ubrban / Urban AC stations are viable... WQNC, WPEG and WBAV.

Two of the four top billers in the market are urban stations...
 
urbanradio704 said:
2008 market research shows 48% black population. White folk are becoming the minority in Charlotte market.
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Urban704 - Let me simplify Mr. Eduardo's point for you. There is a difference between the Charlotte city population and the Charlotte market population. The Charlotte (market)Metropolitan Survey Area is comprised of the 11 counties that he lists above - 21% of the total population of those 11 counties is 21% black. Undoubtedly, the city's black population percentage is higher. Is it 48-50% as you claim? Someone else can provide that figure, I don't have it handy.
 
I have read this thread with great amusement. What difference does it make? Who cares? Does it put any money in your pocket? It sure doesn't put any in mine.

I worked for CBS Radio for a couple of years, ain't no big thing, I'll tell you that. Most of the money the station I worked for went right up to CBS headquarters in NYC.

So carry on if you must but I'd bet the folks at CBS think that all this is rather funny! ;D :D ::)
 
I have read this thread with great amusement. What difference does it make? Who cares? Does it put any money in your pocket? It sure doesn't put any in mine.

Well, it is a radio discussion board. Maybe we could talk about the weather, or golf? ;)
 
DavidE...is "market" the same as "listeners"?
my point is...those that can listen to radio
and those that do are two different "markets".
 
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