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V-102.5 Format Change????????????????

Tibbs2 said:
I for one have to say its pretty far fetched to believe Citadel is going to let True Oldies roll over there.

Citadel would love to let True Oldies roll over there. They're not going to put it on one of their two frequencies here in town. So they'll take the money they can get by "rolling" it elsewhere. Win/win situations like that was what made ABC so attractive to them.
 
I thought you sounded great Shooterz! Was in and out of the truck and missed the 12 noon hour any how.
I'm with you and can't see Citadel making the oldies move. I hear KDF has made a rebound and WGFX is still going strong.
Have your people call my people and let's do lunch...Give your wife a big kiss and a big hug to Jimmy,,,,OR kiss Jimmy and hug your wife if ya want! We got people.....ha
 
Does Citadel own V-102.5 now? I thought the Murfreesboro Road stations were Cromwell properties! ??? I know, with all these "C" named companies owning radio stations, it can get confusing sometimes!

But I can't help but think that the Cromwell stations might do better if Citadel took them over! ::)
 
raydiofreak said:
Yes 1029 and 1025 are owned by cromwell. Bud will never sell.
:)
Okay, thanks. I got confused when this thread went for three posts mentioning Citadel without getting corrected! ??? Citadel can't control a property they don't own, as much as they might like to! ;D
 
Let me say this upfront... I am in the building 10 hours a week, mostly on weekends when no one else is there, so these are just my limited exposure impressions.

Bud - Owns the stations, and listens to all of them all the time. He tries to take care of his people the best he can. For those with the big corps, when was the last time the owner stopped in on Sunday Morning and brought you a blueberry muffin cause he knew you were there alone ??? Bud did that the other day for me and then talked about the break I just did on the Buzz. He has in the 7-8 months been there done something like that a few times.

Tincy has been in charge a few weeks, I think just in my few dealings with her she is going to be great. She is passionate person and expects results... As she should. I take her as a hands on type of person and is willing to get her hands dirty if need be.

Dean is the Ops Mgr - He is Dean, and anyone that has worked with him knows exactly what that means. He is great for my personality, he lets and expects people do their job. It isn't Brain Surgery... Show up for your shift on time, prepare your self, have fun, the rest will take care of it self. Basically the only thing Dean has asked me to do is my job... Why people would have a problem with that is beyond me.

Troy is the PD of the Buzz - He is focused. He has a game plan and he is a company man. I have enjoyed working with him. I love people who have passion about what they do, and Troy qualifies for that. Troy came into a situation that is difficult, Russ (Former Buzz PD) was well liked and had a different managing style, it was more of a relaxed atmosphere and communication and details were often missed. When Troy came in he had to set boundries and funnel the focus towards the goal. Those who dont do well with change and don't like a hands on kinda guy, aren't going to like a guy like Troy. Say this for Troy, he has a play book and he uses it. Personally, I think the Buzz sounds great, especially the times that I am on the air... (ONLY KIDDING).

Are there limitations, Sure there are. V's signal is what it is, I think all stations here wish they had 100,000 watts and clear signal from Huntsville to Bowling Green and Jackson to Crossville. The key is to sound as well as you can with what you have. The Buzz has competition in the Rock, the new RQQ and Jack (but Jack is in everyone's world so...). So we will see had that shakes out, but I think the Buzz has it place as one to break new music which gives it that banner to wave.

Am I biased... well of course I am, but I like the direction there, I think they have a good plan. V- dropping "your music your station" off the bird and adding a live body or two on the weekend ( I am one of them) is good for the market. In Nashville, there is a lack of part time air positions and ways for young guys to get in. I think that it should be celebrated that stations are starting to figure out local is not a bad thing. Does it cost more, sure... Some stations and places have to have it to make a profit and survive, and it is better than static. But if you can stratch out a few extra bones and have a body in there, why not and connect to the listener. Remember when it was about the listener and sounding good ?? I have only been in the business 10 years and I do...

Again I state I am not speaking for the company, I am speaking for myself and myself alone.
 
Shooterz, thanks for the update. I like the v-102.5's Retro lunch show. Ace does a good job. Sorry the show was not properly loaded yesterday. Keep up the great work.
 
firepoint525 said:
Okay, thanks. I got confused when this thread went for three posts mentioning Citadel without getting corrected! ??? Citadel can't control a property they don't own, as much as they might like to! ;D

The reason people were talking about Citadel had nothing to do with station ownership. Citadel owns ABC Radio which owns the True Oldies format. The rest you should be able to piece together if you'll go back and read the previous posts.

I've wondered aloud here and other places why V's ratings aren't higher. They've done a lot of things right in the past year. Still think they should do fewer bits in afternoons, as it makes the station sound lower class than it should sound. Maybe it's just the wrong bits.
 
well said shooterz! I believe, if given the proper attention, focus, and determination, V can make a mark in the market. TLC is all she needs.
 
Okay, why can't someone take an hour a day and VT the evening shift??? It'll be hugely positive. Satellite means
cheap sounding impersonnal radio. I am sure plenty of people would volunteer to do the shift if it would prove to
Bud that it was important. I also think the music should be skewed away from the 80's and more current. Good
example, mix in some of the music played on The Sound in LA. Again, just my observations, worth nada, obviously.

Nothing will overcome the signal issue. That alone accounts for a share or two.

I dunno, I guess it's just that I endorse and believe in supporting and pushing for excellence in radio and
double that for local owners so they'll rise above the big companies limitations. I hope Bud Walters
and the team there knows we're rootin' for you. Same for WRLT and SCRG.

To think that Cromwell would even consider paying Citadel to run True Oldies is sort of a slap in the face/
announcement of failure that I just don't think Bud's willing to take or concede. But, I could be totally wrong.

Good luck Shooter! It's refreshing to have someone from there posting on here and being a normal guy. Last
time I remember a poster on here from there, was some egomaniac that talked a big game and disappeared
quicker than anyone else ever has (and we all expected that.) Keep grounded and hopefully you will rise to the top.
 
jetfli said:
firepoint525 said:
Okay, thanks. I got confused when this thread went for three posts mentioning Citadel without getting corrected! ??? Citadel can't control a property they don't own, as much as they might like to! ;D
The reason people were talking about Citadel had nothing to do with station ownership. Citadel owns ABC Radio which owns the True Oldies format. The rest you should be able to piece together if you'll go back and read the previous posts.
This now makes even less sense. Why would Citadel program their own competition, even if Bud were paying them to do so? It would only make sense if this were a market in which Citadel did not already own properties. And as previously stated, they aren't likely to change their own stations.
I've wondered aloud here and other places why V's ratings aren't higher. They've done a lot of things right in the past year. Still think they should do fewer bits in afternoons, as it makes the station sound lower class than it should sound. Maybe it's just the wrong bits.
I'd like to see them pick up Casey Kasem's top 20 AC countdown, and Retro Pop reunion, if those are still being produced. Those haven't been on in Nashville since Star 97 went away, to the best of my knowledge. And Backtrax would fit better on V-102.5 than on the River. (I'm squeemish about suggesting they take over programming that Star 97 dropped, because they were carrying Bob and Sheri in the morning, and dropped them, too.)

Everyone seems to think they should do less '80s. I disagree. I think their mix of music is about right. But I agree that Lulu does too much Hollywood gossip crap, and I would like to see that gone, with more of an emphasis on music, traffic reports, etc.

Does anyone know where I can look at some coverage maps? Everyone complains about their coverage, but I pick them up just fine everywhere I go. And the translator is (at least to me) redundant coverage, because like I said, I pick them up just fine. I would listen to the Buzz more, but they play too much modern rock that I'm just not familiar with.
 
Does anyone know where I can look at some coverage maps? Everyone complains about their coverage, but I pick them up just fine everywhere I go. And the translator is (at least to me) redundant coverage, because like I said, I pick them up just fine. I would listen to the Buzz more, but they play too much modern rock that I'm just not familiar with.

Try "www.radio-locator.com" ...then pick Nashville, then the little "i" button next to WVNS and scroll down to see "view coverage map" (I'll go back and edit if I typed this wrong).
I hope they don't change their format. They've been coming in better for me in the car (wonder if they did something?) and the station is getting better. Please, no "true oldies" !
 
I need to correct what I said about the 80's music on the post above. I think they should limit it to three or four
songs an hour from that decade. This 80's hour here and there is to much of a format change and is running people
off. Velveta Lounge was nice a decade ago. They could play more Depeche Mode, Talking Heads, Pet Shop Boys
instead of Madonna and stuff like that from the 80's and it would sound better, IMHO.

Agreed, no oldies. Not against that, but the FM dial in Nashville is really starting to rock. BTW, anyone think
Jack's sounding a little different this week???
 
Tibbs2 said:
I need to correct what I said about the 80's music on the post above. I think they should limit it to three or four
songs an hour from that decade. This 80's hour here and there is to much of a format change and is running people
off. Velveta Lounge was nice a decade ago. They could play more Depeche Mode, Talking Heads, Pet Shop Boys
instead of Madonna and stuff like that from the 80's and it would sound better, IMHO.

Agreed, no oldies. Not against that, but the FM dial in Nashville is really starting to rock. BTW, anyone think
Jack's sounding a little different this week???

Tibbs,

I've noticed the same thing. 97.1 is starting to sound like the old WKQB, Rock 106. Jack is gone 75% Kick Ass, and finally 105.9 has woke up and playing harder stuff. 105.9 was not afraid of The Buzz, but now with "Everthing that Rocks on the Buzz, 97.1 jammin, and Jack rockin harder, 105.9 has had to get the boring old "freebird" junk off and start rockin. Maybe we are seeing a replay of 1978-1980? I don't know what's going on, but like Swiss and I have discussed, this is the way "Real Rock Radio" should sound. Maybe the consultants are reading this board and listening to us for a change!
I'm ready to bring back "THE ROCK ARMY"!
 
Scott -- I happened to listen to one tenth of a song on the Pebble that seemed to actually be a real rock song last
night, then a multi-billion overplayed Eagles song came on and I fled, as usual. Are they really reacting?
We have read that The Buzz is trying and yes on Jack. This is a cool reaction and race ---

look --->>> someone is finally reacting to something Crumulus has done.

Yeah! Now they finally have tilted the heads of radio management and listeners in this city. I like the
music on 97.1. Sure, they can get a fresh attitude and personality, but it's refreshing to hear a
non-Nashville approach to radio in Nashville. I still say Bravo.

I hope they keep up the rock...and attack. I know you like Oldies, I just think now is not the time for that in our
market because the one that blinks and flips looses.

We need to celebrate the arrival of decent weather and good rock in Nashville with a little Arbor Mist BUBBLY.
 
Tibbs2 said:
I need to correct what I said about the 80's music on the post above. I think they should limit it to three or four
songs an hour from that decade. This 80's hour here and there is to much of a format change and is running people
off. Velveta Lounge was nice a decade ago. They could play more Depeche Mode, Talking Heads, Pet Shop Boys
instead of Madonna and stuff like that from the 80's and it would sound better, IMHO.

Agreed, no oldies. Not against that, but the FM dial in Nashville is really starting to rock. BTW, anyone think
Jack's sounding a little different this week???
Evidently, KDF never got a copyright on the name "Velveeta Lounge," no? ;D

And I certainly agree on Madonna. I had too much of her back in the '80s. I like what they are doing at lunch, playing those dance mixes that segue together. That is reminiscent of what Star 97 was doing with their "supermix" on Saturday nights several years ago. I hope they keep that up.
 
Tibbs2 said:
Scott -- I happened to listen to one tenth of a song on the Pebble that seemed to actually be a real rock song last
night, then a multi-billion overplayed Eagles song came on and I fled, as usual. Are they really reacting?
We have read that The Buzz is trying and yes on Jack. This is a cool reaction and race ---

look --->>> someone is finally reacting to something Crumulus has done.

Yeah! Now they finally have tilted the heads of radio management and listeners in this city. I like the
music on 97.1. Sure, they can get a fresh attitude and personality, but it's refreshing to hear a
non-Nashville approach to radio in Nashville. I still say Bravo.

I hope they keep up the rock...and attack. I know you like Oldies, I just think now is not the time for that in our
market because the one that blinks and flips looses.

We need to celebrate the arrival of decent weather and good rock in Nashville with a little Arbor Mist BUBBLY.

Tibbs,
Since the sale of Clear Channel, the coporate group going private, and selling off weak preforming stations in small markets, I think they don't know what to do with 105.9. Maybe they are just hanging on until things get more organized under the new T.O. with the structure of Clear Channel. I seem to can't put my finger on it, but something is brewing with what they are doing with Nashville Cluster.
I've heard several "uncomfirmed" rumors that TRN was for sale, WLAC was for sale, etc, etc.....and nobody knows what they are going to do. I'm not sure if they Mays Brothers even have not decided what they will do or change in ther Nashville cluster.
It's getting close to 10 years for 105.9 "The Rock", and it does need a face lift in my honest opinion. There has been way too much dead Southern Rock being played, whimpie Eagles music that is approching 30 years old, which are now played on Oldies station in other markets across the country.
All I can say is we get a case of "Grand Ole Arbor Mist", sit back, watch and listen to these Nashville Radio Games. This market is the most unusual market, compaired to the rest of the country. We here in Middle Tennessee are not hicks, hillbillys, stupid and running around bare footed! Nashville is hip, full of culture, and diversified with different people coming to live here from all over the U.S.
IMHO, New Country Music is merging with the hip-pop AC sounds, and that's a good thing for the future. WSM-AM will keep the oldies, but goodies county around for folks who want to hear it, and I still say WSM-AM will move away from the AM Band and have it's own satellite channel in 10 years, as terristial radio dies off. It sort of does now. As a matter of fact, there will be a way to move all stations to satellite, and yes even the AM daytime stations, and the LPFM's. Technology will take it course!
 
scottwmro said:
[I seem to can't put my finger on it, but something is brewing with what they are doing with Nashville Cluster.

hey Scott...have you even been IN the CC building?
how do you hear this stuff? ohhhhhhhhhhhhh...got it.
 
romer979fm said:
scottwmro said:
[I seem to can't put my finger on it, but something is brewing with what they are doing with Nashville Cluster.

hey Scott...have you even been IN the CC building?
how do you hear this stuff? ohhhhhhhhhhhhh...got it.

I don't have to be in the building to hear anything. You know who it is:

B U N T I N !!!!!!!

We talk every morning between 6 & 7, catch up on all the gossip, and rumors. He does production at my house when needed and tells me and Leslie all the latest stuff. Oh, my wife said to tell you hi. She's heard good things about you!
 
Chris,
I forgot, that's where Leslie and I get our V-102.5 info. Some of it but not all of it.

IMHO......that Jones Hot AC, Bright AC or whatever format that is at night on satellite stinks. The jocks are terrible! Oh well, I've drove by the Jones "Mega Buliding" Network going through Englewood, CO, just outside Denver. Nice building, but looks to me all those people are cramped in there!

At one time, they had some really decent talent, but no some of them sound like they came from WRVU. No experience! I'm not knocking RVU, but gee, some of those geeks on there....UUUGGGGG!
 
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