Warren County

[elevator_opratr]

What TV market is Warren County, NJ considered? I had always thought Philadelphia, but someone told me New York. I'd assume it'd have to be Philly, given it consists of Phillipsburg, which is right over the border from Easton.

Either way, it's a county hardly mentioned in either Philly OR New York newscasts.

 

[TravisK]

> What TV market is Warren County, NJ considered? I had always
> thought Philadelphia, but someone told me New York. I'd
> assume it'd have to be Philly, given it consists of
> Phillipsburg, which is right over the border from Easton.
>
> Either way, it's a county hardly mentioned in either Philly
> OR New York newscasts.
>

It is actually in the New York DMA, although in the Phillipsburg area, Service Electric, the cable company carries both the Philly and New York Stations. When you get to the northern part of the county the cable companies up there only carry the New York stations. Another interesting fact about the Phillipsburg area is that if you go to the McDonald's there, they are considered to be part of the Lehigh Valley which is actually in the Philadelphia, PA DMA. At those McDonalds they sell stuff from the Phillies and the Eagles. Most of the Sports fans there are Philly fans instead of New York Fans. If you go more north in the county the people relate to New York more. It is a very interesting county.

 

[radiolover78]

> > What TV market is Warren County, NJ considered? I had
> always
> > thought Philadelphia, but someone told me New York. I'd
> > assume it'd have to be Philly, given it consists of
> > Phillipsburg, which is right over the border from Easton.
>
> >
> > Either way, it's a county hardly mentioned in either
> Philly
> > OR New York newscasts.
> >
>
> It is actually in the New York DMA, although in the
> Phillipsburg area, Service Electric, the cable company
> carries both the Philly and New York Stations. When you get
> to the northern part of the county the cable companies up
> there only carry the New York stations. Another interesting
> fact about the Phillipsburg area is that if you go to the
> McDonald's there, they are considered to be part of the
> Lehigh Valley which is actually in the Philadelphia, PA DMA.
> At those McDonalds they sell stuff from the Phillies and
> the Eagles. Most of the Sports fans there are Philly fans
> instead of New York Fans. If you go more north in the county
> the people relate to New York more. It is a very interesting
> county.
>

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[Harold]

> > > What TV market is Warren County, NJ considered? I had
> > always
> > > thought Philadelphia, but someone told me New York. I'd
> > > assume it'd have to be Philly, given it consists of
> > > Phillipsburg, which is right over the border from
> Easton.
> >
> > >
> > > Either way, it's a county hardly mentioned in either
> > Philly
> > > OR New York newscasts.
> > >
> >
> > It is actually in the New York DMA, although in the
> > Phillipsburg area, Service Electric, the cable company
> > carries both the Philly and New York Stations. When you
> get
> > to the northern part of the county the cable companies up
> > there only carry the New York stations. Another
> interesting
> > fact about the Phillipsburg area is that if you go to the
> > McDonald's there, they are considered to be part of the
> > Lehigh Valley which is actually in the Philadelphia, PA
> DMA.
> > At those McDonalds they sell stuff from the Phillies and
> > the Eagles. Most of the Sports fans there are Philly fans
> > instead of New York Fans. If you go more north in the
> county
> > the people relate to New York more. It is a very
> interesting
> > county.
> >
>
> Service Electric is my cable in Sussex County. We definetly
> relate more to New York, but a few years ago, we had WB 11
> (NYC) and WB17 (Philadelphia?).
>


"...relate more to New York..."

It's interesting to see how the deprivation
of a local television industry in northern
New Jersey gives people the sense that somehow
they must relate to a city that has very little
effect on their lives.

 

[radiolover78]

> > > > What TV market is Warren County, NJ considered? I had
> > > always
> > > > thought Philadelphia, but someone told me New York.
> I'd
> > > > assume it'd have to be Philly, given it consists of
> > > > Phillipsburg, which is right over the border from
> > Easton.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Either way, it's a county hardly mentioned in either
> > > Philly
> > > > OR New York newscasts.
> > > >
> > >
> > > It is actually in the New York DMA, although in the
> > > Phillipsburg area, Service Electric, the cable company
> > > carries both the Philly and New York Stations. When you
> > get
> > > to the northern part of the county the cable companies
> up
> > > there only carry the New York stations. Another
> > interesting
> > > fact about the Phillipsburg area is that if you go to
> the
> > > McDonald's there, they are considered to be part of the
> > > Lehigh Valley which is actually in the Philadelphia, PA
> > DMA.
> > > At those McDonalds they sell stuff from the Phillies
> and
> > > the Eagles. Most of the Sports fans there are Philly
> fans
> > > instead of New York Fans. If you go more north in the
> > county
> > > the people relate to New York more. It is a very
> > interesting
> > > county.
> > >
> >
> > Service Electric is my cable in Sussex County. We
> definetly
> > relate more to New York, but a few years ago, we had WB 11
>
> > (NYC) and WB17 (Philadelphia?).
> >
>
>
> "...relate more to New York..."
>
> It's interesting to see how the deprivation
> of a local television industry in northern
> New Jersey gives people the sense that somehow
> they must relate to a city that has very little
> effect on their lives.
>

I was saying that because, do you think we relate more to New York or Philadelphia? Obviously New York. And actually, I disagree with your post. New York City has quite a bit of effect on our lives. Thousands and thousands of people from the area commute to New York City or very close by. We need traffic information etc. NYC TV isn't the most reliable source to our news and info, but for you to say "a city that has very little
effect on their lives." is incorrect.

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[6tothebronx]

Does WMBC-63 carry news from Sussex and Warren counties? Do they still have a 6pm newscast?

 

[toby]

> Does WMBC-63 carry news from Sussex and Warren counties? Do
> they still have a 6pm newscast?

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[Harold]

> > Does WMBC-63 carry news from Sussex and Warren counties?
> Do
> > they still have a 6pm newscast?
>
> WMBC has an hour long 5PM newscast, and it sort of covers
> those counties, but is make up mainly of repackaged CNN
> stories.
>

You're right. The "newscast" from WMBC-TV is there only
to justify carriage of that station on various cable
systems throughout the region. You can see that very
little money is spent on providing effective, professional
TV news coverage of the area to which the station is
licensed. Before it went on the air the owners of WMBC-TV
promised that it primarily would be an outlet for
Oriental-language programs, and, true to their word, it
is. It is a station that truly serves only the pecuniary
interests of those who own it. Politicians, the F.C.C.,
and the general public seem unconcerned that this
resource is being wasted.

 

[Harold]

> >
> > It's interesting to see how the deprivation
> > of a local television industry in northern
> > New Jersey gives people the sense that somehow
> > they must relate to a city that has very little
> > effect on their lives.
> >
>
> I was saying that because, do you think we relate more to
> New York or Philadelphia? Obviously New York. And actually,
> I disagree with your post. New York City has quite a bit of
> effect on our lives. Thousands and thousands of people from
> the area commute to New York City or very close by. We need
> traffic information etc. NYC TV isn't the most reliable
> source to our news and info, but for you to say "a city that
> has very little
> effect on their lives." is incorrect.
>


You say, "New York City has quite a bit of effect on our lives."
That so? How, and in what way?

The last I checked, about five percent of the work force
in New Jersey works in New York City, the majority of
them from Bergen County. The characteristics of commuting
in northern New Jersey are people travelling from their
homes in that area to other New Jersey locations, including
central New Jersey.

New York City provides little of the infrastructure that
makes up the modern society in northern New Jersey. None
of our necessities come from there...food, clothing, and
other consumables, as well as economic structure, such as
banks. In the non-controlled (or should I say "non-manipulated")
media, local sources predominate..such as newspapers. And
obviously, northern New Jersey local, county, state, and
federal government agencies are separate and distinct from
those in New York City.

Tell us what the "quite a bit of effect" is. Thanks.

 

[radiolover78]

> > >
> > > It's interesting to see how the deprivation
> > > of a local television industry in northern
> > > New Jersey gives people the sense that somehow
> > > they must relate to a city that has very little
> > > effect on their lives.
> > >
> >
> > I was saying that because, do you think we relate more to
> > New York or Philadelphia? Obviously New York. And
> actually,
> > I disagree with your post. New York City has quite a bit
> of
> > effect on our lives. Thousands and thousands of people
> from
> > the area commute to New York City or very close by. We
> need
> > traffic information etc. NYC TV isn't the most reliable
> > source to our news and info, but for you to say "a city
> that
> > has very little
> > effect on their lives." is incorrect.
> >
>
>
> You say, "New York City has quite a bit of effect on our
> lives."
> That so? How, and in what way?
>
> The last I checked, about five percent of the work force
> in New Jersey works in New York City, the majority of
> them from Bergen County. The characteristics of commuting
> in northern New Jersey are people travelling from their
> homes in that area to other New Jersey locations, including
> central New Jersey.
>
> New York City provides little of the infrastructure that
> makes up the modern society in northern New Jersey. None
> of our necessities come from there...food, clothing, and
> other consumables, as well as economic structure, such as
> banks. In the non-controlled (or should I say
> "non-manipulated")
> media, local sources predominate..such as newspapers. And
> obviously, northern New Jersey local, county, state, and
> federal government agencies are separate and distinct from
> those in New York City.
>
> Tell us what the "quite a bit of effect" is. Thanks.
>

Read my post. This is what I said, "Thousands and thousands of people
from the area commute to New York City or VERY CLOSE BY. (That can include Fort Lee, Pomptain Plains, Wayne, Ridgewood, and others.) We need traffic information etc." New York City TV offers information on North Jersey traffic also. Plus, we are just closer. That simple. People from North Jersey visit New York City all the time. We relate to New York in different ways. Maybe not for food, shopping, or restaurants, but people in Jersey go to NYC to do that stuff too.

The main point of this discussion was that we would relate more to New York City TV than Philadelphia TV.
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[Harold]

> > > >
> > > > It's interesting to see how the deprivation
> > > > of a local television industry in northern
> > > > New Jersey gives people the sense that somehow
> > > > they must relate to a city that has very little
> > > > effect on their lives.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I was saying that because, do you think we relate more
> to
> > > New York or Philadelphia? Obviously New York. And
> > actually,
> > > I disagree with your post. New York City has quite a bit
>
> > of
> > > effect on our lives. Thousands and thousands of people
> > from
> > > the area commute to New York City or very close by. We
> > need
> > > traffic information etc. NYC TV isn't the most reliable
> > > source to our news and info, but for you to say "a city
> > that
> > > has very little
> > > effect on their lives." is incorrect.
> > >
> >
> >
> > You say, "New York City has quite a bit of effect on our
> > lives."
> > That so? How, and in what way?
> >
> > The last I checked, about five percent of the work force
> > in New Jersey works in New York City, the majority of
> > them from Bergen County. The characteristics of commuting
> > in northern New Jersey are people travelling from their
> > homes in that area to other New Jersey locations,
> including
> > central New Jersey.
> >
> > New York City provides little of the infrastructure that
> > makes up the modern society in northern New Jersey. None
> > of our necessities come from there...food, clothing, and
> > other consumables, as well as economic structure, such as
> > banks. In the non-controlled (or should I say
> > "non-manipulated")
> > media, local sources predominate..such as newspapers. And
> > obviously, northern New Jersey local, county, state, and
> > federal government agencies are separate and distinct from
>
> > those in New York City.
> >
> > Tell us what the "quite a bit of effect" is. Thanks.
> >
>
> Read my post. This is what I said, "Thousands and thousands
> of people
> from the area commute to New York City or VERY CLOSE BY.
> (That can include Fort Lee, Pomptain Plains, Wayne,
> Ridgewood, and others.) We need traffic information etc."
> New York City TV offers information on North Jersey traffic
> also. Plus, we are just closer. That simple. People from
> North Jersey visit New York City all the time. We relate to
> New York in different ways. Maybe not for food, shopping, or
> restaurants, but people in Jersey go to NYC to do that stuff
> too.
>
> The main point of this discussion was that we would relate
> more to New York City TV than Philadelphia TV.
>

OK..So you didn't answer my question.

The truth is, New York City has very little
effect on the lives of the vast majority of
people in northern New Jersey. That's just a
fact. It's understandable that if you watch or
listen to the New York City media you will get
the opposite impression. Broadcasters in that
city are dismissive of New Jersey and, often,
will be derisive too.

 

[radiolover78]

> > > > >
> > > > > It's interesting to see how the deprivation
> > > > > of a local television industry in northern
> > > > > New Jersey gives people the sense that somehow
> > > > > they must relate to a city that has very little
> > > > > effect on their lives.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I was saying that because, do you think we relate more
>
> > to
> > > > New York or Philadelphia? Obviously New York. And
> > > actually,
> > > > I disagree with your post. New York City has quite a
> bit
> >
> > > of
> > > > effect on our lives. Thousands and thousands of people
>
> > > from
> > > > the area commute to New York City or very close by. We
>
> > > need
> > > > traffic information etc. NYC TV isn't the most
> reliable
> > > > source to our news and info, but for you to say "a
> city
> > > that
> > > > has very little
> > > > effect on their lives." is incorrect.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You say, "New York City has quite a bit of effect on our
>
> > > lives."
> > > That so? How, and in what way?
> > >
> > > The last I checked, about five percent of the work force
>
> > > in New Jersey works in New York City, the majority of
> > > them from Bergen County. The characteristics of
> commuting
> > > in northern New Jersey are people travelling from their
> > > homes in that area to other New Jersey locations,
> > including
> > > central New Jersey.
> > >
> > > New York City provides little of the infrastructure that
>
> > > makes up the modern society in northern New Jersey. None
>
> > > of our necessities come from there...food, clothing, and
>
> > > other consumables, as well as economic structure, such
> as
> > > banks. In the non-controlled (or should I say
> > > "non-manipulated")
> > > media, local sources predominate..such as newspapers.
> And
> > > obviously, northern New Jersey local, county, state, and
>
> > > federal government agencies are separate and distinct
> from
> >
> > > those in New York City.
> > >
> > > Tell us what the "quite a bit of effect" is. Thanks.
> > >
> >
> > Read my post. This is what I said, "Thousands and
> thousands
> > of people
> > from the area commute to New York City or VERY CLOSE BY.
> > (That can include Fort Lee, Pomptain Plains, Wayne,
> > Ridgewood, and others.) We need traffic information etc."
> > New York City TV offers information on North Jersey
> traffic
> > also. Plus, we are just closer. That simple. People from
> > North Jersey visit New York City all the time. We relate
> to
> > New York in different ways. Maybe not for food, shopping,
> or
> > restaurants, but people in Jersey go to NYC to do that
> stuff
> > too.
> >
> > The main point of this discussion was that we would relate
>
> > more to New York City TV than Philadelphia TV.
> >
>
> OK..So you didn't answer my question.
>
> The truth is, New York City has very little
> effect on the lives of the vast majority of
> people in northern New Jersey. That's just a
> fact. It's understandable that if you watch or
> listen to the New York City media you will get
> the opposite impression. Broadcasters in that
> city are dismissive of New Jersey and, often,
> will be derisive too.
>

This is a very silly debate and I actually did answer your question. Read my past two posts again.
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[Michael_Boehm]

> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's interesting to see how the deprivation
> > > > > > of a local television industry in northern
> > > > > > New Jersey gives people the sense that somehow
> > > > > > they must relate to a city that has very little
> > > > > > effect on their lives.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I was saying that because, do you think we relate
> more
> >
> > > to
> > > > > New York or Philadelphia? Obviously New York. And
> > > > actually,
> > > > > I disagree with your post. New York City has quite a
>
> > bit
> > >
> > > > of
> > > > > effect on our lives. Thousands and thousands of
> people
> >
> > > > from
> > > > > the area commute to New York City or very close by.
> We
> >
> > > > need
> > > > > traffic information etc. NYC TV isn't the most
> > reliable
> > > > > source to our news and info, but for you to say "a
> > city
> > > > that
> > > > > has very little
> > > > > effect on their lives." is incorrect.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You say, "New York City has quite a bit of effect on
> our
> >
> > > > lives."
> > > > That so? How, and in what way?
> > > >
> > > > The last I checked, about five percent of the work
> force
> >
> > > > in New Jersey works in New York City, the majority of
> > > > them from Bergen County. The characteristics of
> > commuting
> > > > in northern New Jersey are people travelling from
> their
> > > > homes in that area to other New Jersey locations,
> > > including
> > > > central New Jersey.
> > > >
> > > > New York City provides little of the infrastructure
> that
> >
> > > > makes up the modern society in northern New Jersey.
> None
> >
> > > > of our necessities come from there...food, clothing,
> and
> >
> > > > other consumables, as well as economic structure, such
>
> > as
> > > > banks. In the non-controlled (or should I say
> > > > "non-manipulated")
> > > > media, local sources predominate..such as newspapers.
> > And
> > > > obviously, northern New Jersey local, county, state,
> and
> >
> > > > federal government agencies are separate and distinct
> > from
> > >
> > > > those in New York City.
> > > >
> > > > Tell us what the "quite a bit of effect" is. Thanks.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Read my post. This is what I said, "Thousands and
> > thousands
> > > of people
> > > from the area commute to New York City or VERY CLOSE BY.
>
> > > (That can include Fort Lee, Pomptain Plains, Wayne,
> > > Ridgewood, and others.) We need traffic information
> etc."
> > > New York City TV offers information on North Jersey
> > traffic
> > > also. Plus, we are just closer. That simple. People from
>
> > > North Jersey visit New York City all the time. We relate
>
> > to
> > > New York in different ways. Maybe not for food,
> shopping,
> > or
> > > restaurants, but people in Jersey go to NYC to do that
> > stuff
> > > too.
> > >
> > > The main point of this discussion was that we would
> relate
> >
> > > more to New York City TV than Philadelphia TV.
> > >
> >
> > OK..So you didn't answer my question.
> >
> > The truth is, New York City has very little
> > effect on the lives of the vast majority of
> > people in northern New Jersey. That's just a
> > fact. It's understandable that if you watch or
> > listen to the New York City media you will get
> > the opposite impression. Broadcasters in that
> > city are dismissive of New Jersey and, often,
> > will be derisive too.
> >
>
> This is a very silly debate and I actually did answer your
> question. Read my past two posts again.
>

I would have to agree with you. Northern New Jersey does relate to New York City TV in some ways. Much more than Philadelphia.

 

[Harold]

>
> I would have to agree with you. Northern New Jersey does
> relate to New York City TV in some ways. Much more than
> Philadelphia.
>

And I have to agree with you Michael. Northern New Jersey
relates to New York City TV because there is no television
broadcast industry here. There are no commercial television
stations licensed to northern New Jersey that do not operate
as New York stations. And that includes Channel 13, which
operates on a commercial, not educational, assignment.

I think the question that has been debated in the past
few days wasn't whether New York media dominates
northern New Jersey. It does. The question was whether
residents of northern New Jersey relate to New York City.
Clearly the majority of residents do not since NYC does
not have a significant economic or political influence here.
That has been the narrow focus.

There are some New Yorkophiles in northern New Jersey.
Years ago, in Sussex County, the local cable system
decided to delete Channel 13 as its PBS station in
favor of New Jersey Public Television. A small but
vocal group of women vehemently objected. Like some
others, I suspect, they believed that New York bespeaks
a high level of classiness while anything to do with
New Jersey doesn't. They are the type who tell friends
elsewhere in the country that they live in "New York"
when they actually live in Sayreville, or Piscataway,
or Montvale, or Sparta.

The affect the New York media has had on public
discourse and civic perceptions in northern New
Jersey is an important subject worthy of scholarly
investigation. It also is worthy of public debate.
But in modern times that debate is no longer done
in the pages of newspapers and certainly not done
from atop a wooden box in the town square. It's
done over the airwaves. And there are no airwaves
in northern New Jersey over which to do it.

 

[radiolover78]

> >
> > I would have to agree with you. Northern New Jersey does
> > relate to New York City TV in some ways. Much more than
> > Philadelphia.
> >
>
> And I have to agree with you Michael. Northern New Jersey
> relates to New York City TV because there is no television
> broadcast industry here. There are no commercial television
>
> stations licensed to northern New Jersey that do not operate
>
> as New York stations. And that includes Channel 13, which
> operates on a commercial, not educational, assignment.
>
> I think the question that has been debated in the past
> few days wasn't whether New York media dominates
> northern New Jersey. It does. The question was whether
> residents of northern New Jersey relate to New York City.
> Clearly the majority of residents do not since NYC does
> not have a significant economic or political influence here.
>
> That has been the narrow focus.
>
> There are some New Yorkophiles in northern New Jersey.
> Years ago, in Sussex County, the local cable system
> decided to delete Channel 13 as its PBS station in
> favor of New Jersey Public Television. A small but
> vocal group of women vehemently objected. Like some
> others, I suspect, they believed that New York bespeaks
> a high level of classiness while anything to do with
> New Jersey doesn't. They are the type who tell friends
> elsewhere in the country that they live in "New York"
> when they actually live in Sayreville, or Piscataway,
> or Montvale, or Sparta.
>
> The affect the New York media has had on public
> discourse and civic perceptions in northern New
> Jersey is an important subject worthy of scholarly
> investigation. It also is worthy of public debate.
> But in modern times that debate is no longer done
> in the pages of newspapers and certainly not done
> from atop a wooden box in the town square. It's
> done over the airwaves. And there are no airwaves
> in northern New Jersey over which to do it.
>

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[Harold]

> > >
> > > I would have to agree with you. Northern New Jersey does
>
> > > relate to New York City TV in some ways. Much more than
> > > Philadelphia.
> > >
> >
> > And I have to agree with you Michael. Northern New Jersey
> > relates to New York City TV because there is no television
>
> > broadcast industry here. There are no commercial
> television
> >
> > stations licensed to northern New Jersey that do not
> operate
> >
> > as New York stations. And that includes Channel 13, which
> > operates on a commercial, not educational, assignment.
> >
> > I think the question that has been debated in the past
> > few days wasn't whether New York media dominates
> > northern New Jersey. It does. The question was whether
> > residents of northern New Jersey relate to New York City.
> > Clearly the majority of residents do not since NYC does
> > not have a significant economic or political influence
> here.
> >
> > That has been the narrow focus.
> >
> > There are some New Yorkophiles in northern New Jersey.
> > Years ago, in Sussex County, the local cable system
> > decided to delete Channel 13 as its PBS station in
> > favor of New Jersey Public Television. A small but
> > vocal group of women vehemently objected. Like some
> > others, I suspect, they believed that New York bespeaks
> > a high level of classiness while anything to do with
> > New Jersey doesn't. They are the type who tell friends
> > elsewhere in the country that they live in "New York"
> > when they actually live in Sayreville, or Piscataway,
> > or Montvale, or Sparta.
> >
> > The affect the New York media has had on public
> > discourse and civic perceptions in northern New
> > Jersey is an important subject worthy of scholarly
> > investigation. It also is worthy of public debate.
> > But in modern times that debate is no longer done
> > in the pages of newspapers and certainly not done
> > from atop a wooden box in the town square. It's
> > done over the airwaves. And there are no airwaves
> > in northern New Jersey over which to do it.
> >
>
> You're kidding right? My posts were about how Northern New
> Jersey relates more to New York City TV. That was my point
> the whole time.
>

Why do you feel impelled to respond to comments that
were NOT ADDRESSED TO YOU!! I was commenting on
a post from Michael. Go back and read the first
paragraph of my comments to Michael. And then go
back and read my first posting in this thread. If
you spend enough time with it you'll understand
the point that I was making.

And no...I never kid. I'm dead serious.

 

[radiolover78]

> > > >
> > > > I would have to agree with you. Northern New Jersey
> does
> >
> > > > relate to New York City TV in some ways. Much more
> than
> > > > Philadelphia.
> > > >
> > >
> > > And I have to agree with you Michael. Northern New
> Jersey
> > > relates to New York City TV because there is no
> television
> >
> > > broadcast industry here. There are no commercial
> > television
> > >
> > > stations licensed to northern New Jersey that do not
> > operate
> > >
> > > as New York stations. And that includes Channel 13,
> which
> > > operates on a commercial, not educational, assignment.
> > >
> > > I think the question that has been debated in the past
> > > few days wasn't whether New York media dominates
> > > northern New Jersey. It does. The question was whether
> > > residents of northern New Jersey relate to New York
> City.
> > > Clearly the majority of residents do not since NYC does
> > > not have a significant economic or political influence
> > here.
> > >
> > > That has been the narrow focus.
> > >
> > > There are some New Yorkophiles in northern New Jersey.
> > > Years ago, in Sussex County, the local cable system
> > > decided to delete Channel 13 as its PBS station in
> > > favor of New Jersey Public Television. A small but
> > > vocal group of women vehemently objected. Like some
> > > others, I suspect, they believed that New York bespeaks
> > > a high level of classiness while anything to do with
> > > New Jersey doesn't. They are the type who tell friends
> > > elsewhere in the country that they live in "New York"
> > > when they actually live in Sayreville, or Piscataway,
> > > or Montvale, or Sparta.
> > >
> > > The affect the New York media has had on public
> > > discourse and civic perceptions in northern New
> > > Jersey is an important subject worthy of scholarly
> > > investigation. It also is worthy of public debate.
> > > But in modern times that debate is no longer done
> > > in the pages of newspapers and certainly not done
> > > from atop a wooden box in the town square. It's
> > > done over the airwaves. And there are no airwaves
> > > in northern New Jersey over which to do it.
> > >
> >
> > You're kidding right? My posts were about how Northern New
>
> > Jersey relates more to New York City TV. That was my point
>
> > the whole time.
> >
>
> Why do you feel impelled to respond to comments that
> were NOT ADDRESSED TO YOU!! I was commenting on
> a post from Michael. Go back and read the first
> paragraph of my comments to Michael. And then go
> back and read my first posting in this thread. If
> you spend enough time with it you'll understand
> the point that I was making.
>
> And no...I never kid. I'm dead serious.
>

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[Harold]

> > > > >
> > > > > I would have to agree with you. Northern New Jersey
> > does
> > >
> > > > > relate to New York City TV in some ways. Much more
> > than
> > > > > Philadelphia.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > And I have to agree with you Michael. Northern New
> > Jersey
> > > > relates to New York City TV because there is no
> > television
> > >
> > > > broadcast industry here. There are no commercial
> > > television
> > > >
> > > > stations licensed to northern New Jersey that do not
> > > operate
> > > >
> > > > as New York stations. And that includes Channel 13,
> > which
> > > > operates on a commercial, not educational, assignment.
>
> > > >
> > > > I think the question that has been debated in the past
>
> > > > few days wasn't whether New York media dominates
> > > > northern New Jersey. It does. The question was whether
>
> > > > residents of northern New Jersey relate to New York
> > City.
> > > > Clearly the majority of residents do not since NYC
> does
> > > > not have a significant economic or political influence
>
> > > here.
> > > >
> > > > That has been the narrow focus.
> > > >
> > > > There are some New Yorkophiles in northern New Jersey.
>
> > > > Years ago, in Sussex County, the local cable system
> > > > decided to delete Channel 13 as its PBS station in
> > > > favor of New Jersey Public Television. A small but
> > > > vocal group of women vehemently objected. Like some
> > > > others, I suspect, they believed that New York
> bespeaks
> > > > a high level of classiness while anything to do with
> > > > New Jersey doesn't. They are the type who tell friends
>
> > > > elsewhere in the country that they live in "New York"
> > > > when they actually live in Sayreville, or Piscataway,
> > > > or Montvale, or Sparta.
> > > >
> > > > The affect the New York media has had on public
> > > > discourse and civic perceptions in northern New
> > > > Jersey is an important subject worthy of scholarly
> > > > investigation. It also is worthy of public debate.
> > > > But in modern times that debate is no longer done
> > > > in the pages of newspapers and certainly not done
> > > > from atop a wooden box in the town square. It's
> > > > done over the airwaves. And there are no airwaves
> > > > in northern New Jersey over which to do it.
> > > >
> > >
> > > You're kidding right? My posts were about how Northern
> New
> >
> > > Jersey relates more to New York City TV. That was my
> point
> >
> > > the whole time.
> > >
> >
> > Why do you feel impelled to respond to comments that
> > were NOT ADDRESSED TO YOU!! I was commenting on
> > a post from Michael. Go back and read the first
> > paragraph of my comments to Michael. And then go
> > back and read my first posting in this thread. If
> > you spend enough time with it you'll understand
> > the point that I was making.
> >
> > And no...I never kid. I'm dead serious.
> >
>
> I talk about how Northern NJ relates more to New York City
> TV and you disagree with me. Michael says pretty much the
> same thing, and you agree. I just don't understand why you
> agree with him, but not me, when we both say the same thing!
>

I already told you to re-read my previous posts. I
can lead you to water, I can't make you drink.

 

[radiolover78]

> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would have to agree with you. Northern New
> Jersey
> > > does
> > > >
> > > > > > relate to New York City TV in some ways. Much more
>
> > > than
> > > > > > Philadelphia.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > And I have to agree with you Michael. Northern New
> > > Jersey
> > > > > relates to New York City TV because there is no
> > > television
> > > >
> > > > > broadcast industry here. There are no commercial
> > > > television
> > > > >
> > > > > stations licensed to northern New Jersey that do not
>
> > > > operate
> > > > >
> > > > > as New York stations. And that includes Channel 13,
> > > which
> > > > > operates on a commercial, not educational,
> assignment.
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > I think the question that has been debated in the
> past
> >
> > > > > few days wasn't whether New York media dominates
> > > > > northern New Jersey. It does. The question was
> whether
> >
> > > > > residents of northern New Jersey relate to New York
> > > City.
> > > > > Clearly the majority of residents do not since NYC
> > does
> > > > > not have a significant economic or political
> influence
> >
> > > > here.
> > > > >
> > > > > That has been the narrow focus.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are some New Yorkophiles in northern New
> Jersey.
> >
> > > > > Years ago, in Sussex County, the local cable system
> > > > > decided to delete Channel 13 as its PBS station in
> > > > > favor of New Jersey Public Television. A small but
> > > > > vocal group of women vehemently objected. Like some
> > > > > others, I suspect, they believed that New York
> > bespeaks
> > > > > a high level of classiness while anything to do with
>
> > > > > New Jersey doesn't. They are the type who tell
> friends
> >
> > > > > elsewhere in the country that they live in "New
> York"
> > > > > when they actually live in Sayreville, or
> Piscataway,
> > > > > or Montvale, or Sparta.
> > > > >
> > > > > The affect the New York media has had on public
> > > > > discourse and civic perceptions in northern New
> > > > > Jersey is an important subject worthy of scholarly
> > > > > investigation. It also is worthy of public debate.
> > > > > But in modern times that debate is no longer done
> > > > > in the pages of newspapers and certainly not done
> > > > > from atop a wooden box in the town square. It's
> > > > > done over the airwaves. And there are no airwaves
> > > > > in northern New Jersey over which to do it.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > You're kidding right? My posts were about how Northern
>
> > New
> > >
> > > > Jersey relates more to New York City TV. That was my
> > point
> > >
> > > > the whole time.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Why do you feel impelled to respond to comments that
> > > were NOT ADDRESSED TO YOU!! I was commenting on
> > > a post from Michael. Go back and read the first
> > > paragraph of my comments to Michael. And then go
> > > back and read my first posting in this thread. If
> > > you spend enough time with it you'll understand
> > > the point that I was making.
> > >
> > > And no...I never kid. I'm dead serious.
> > >
> >
> > I talk about how Northern NJ relates more to New York City
>
> > TV and you disagree with me. Michael says pretty much the
> > same thing, and you agree. I just don't understand why you
>
> > agree with him, but not me, when we both say the same
> thing!
> >
>
> I already told you to re-read my previous posts. I
> can lead you to water, I can't make you drink.
>

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[Harold]

> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would have to agree with you. Northern New
> > Jersey
> > > > does
> > > > >
> > > > > > > relate to New York City TV in some ways. Much
> more
> >
> > > > than
> > > > > > > Philadelphia.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And I have to agree with you Michael. Northern New
>
> > > > Jersey
> > > > > > relates to New York City TV because there is no
> > > > television
> > > > >
> > > > > > broadcast industry here. There are no commercial
> > > > > television
> > > > > >
> > > > > > stations licensed to northern New Jersey that do
> not
> >
> > > > > operate
> > > > > >
> > > > > > as New York stations. And that includes Channel
> 13,
> > > > which
> > > > > > operates on a commercial, not educational,
> > assignment.
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think the question that has been debated in the
> > past
> > >
> > > > > > few days wasn't whether New York media dominates
> > > > > > northern New Jersey. It does. The question was
> > whether
> > >
> > > > > > residents of northern New Jersey relate to New
> York
> > > > City.
> > > > > > Clearly the majority of residents do not since NYC
>
> > > does
> > > > > > not have a significant economic or political
> > influence
> > >
> > > > > here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That has been the narrow focus.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are some New Yorkophiles in northern New
> > Jersey.
> > >
> > > > > > Years ago, in Sussex County, the local cable
> system
> > > > > > decided to delete Channel 13 as its PBS station in
>
> > > > > > favor of New Jersey Public Television. A small but
>
> > > > > > vocal group of women vehemently objected. Like
> some
> > > > > > others, I suspect, they believed that New York
> > > bespeaks
> > > > > > a high level of classiness while anything to do
> with
> >
> > > > > > New Jersey doesn't. They are the type who tell
> > friends
> > >
> > > > > > elsewhere in the country that they live in "New
> > York"
> > > > > > when they actually live in Sayreville, or
> > Piscataway,
> > > > > > or Montvale, or Sparta.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The affect the New York media has had on public
> > > > > > discourse and civic perceptions in northern New
> > > > > > Jersey is an important subject worthy of scholarly
>
> > > > > > investigation. It also is worthy of public debate.
>
> > > > > > But in modern times that debate is no longer done
> > > > > > in the pages of newspapers and certainly not done
> > > > > > from atop a wooden box in the town square. It's
> > > > > > done over the airwaves. And there are no airwaves
> > > > > > in northern New Jersey over which to do it.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You're kidding right? My posts were about how
> Northern
> >
> > > New
> > > >
> > > > > Jersey relates more to New York City TV. That was my
>
> > > point
> > > >
> > > > > the whole time.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Why do you feel impelled to respond to comments that
> > > > were NOT ADDRESSED TO YOU!! I was commenting on
> > > > a post from Michael. Go back and read the first
> > > > paragraph of my comments to Michael. And then go
> > > > back and read my first posting in this thread. If
> > > > you spend enough time with it you'll understand
> > > > the point that I was making.
> > > >
> > > > And no...I never kid. I'm dead serious.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I talk about how Northern NJ relates more to New York
> City
> >
> > > TV and you disagree with me. Michael says pretty much
> the
> > > same thing, and you agree. I just don't understand why
> you
> >
> > > agree with him, but not me, when we both say the same
> > thing!
> > >
> >
> > I already told you to re-read my previous posts. I
> > can lead you to water, I can't make you drink.
> >
>
> I think you should be re-reading my posts.
>


I did. And everything I said still makes
sense. I'm sorry you can't see that, but
them's the breaks.