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WAVE Goodbye

TheBigA said:
michael hagerty said:
they played great stuff from artists like Steely Dan, Dire Straits, Joe Jackson, Joni Mitchell, Rickie Lee Jones and Van Morrison in addition to the jazz base.

That's when those artists had current music that was active and popular.

Joe and Van, yes...but Steely Dan's last LP was 7 years before...and the Joni and Ricki tracks were from the 70s. The Dire Straits stuff was all older too.

This was their gold...replaced by 60s and 70s R&B oldies by artists no longer current, active, or in many cases, alive.

Gold in this format has gone from 2-15 years old to 35-45 years...and as I said on this board about KRTH before Jhani arrived...that's how old the listeners should be, not the music.
 
TheBigA said:
ChannelFlipper said:
recto101 said:
I think 94.7 KMET could come back soon
or 94.7 The Quiet Storm could be in the running by CBS.

Reality Check says no.

FYI: A radio station in DC owns the rights to the name "Quiet Storm," and any radio station that uses it must pay them a royalty. So don't expect to hear that name used in LA.

If that's the case, I guess Inner City Broadcasting is paying the royalty. Their KBLX in the Bay Area has been "The Quiet Storm" for about 30 years. It's a consistently popular station, by the way. But like most radio brands and slogans, it's probably fairly malleable. Here, it's a mix of soft R&B hits from the 70s up to today, with a little bit of smooth jazz mixed in. I believe Inner City's flagship station - WBLS in NYC also used the slogan for a long time. Interestingly, WBLS is now using the same slogan that their Bay Area competitor "Kiss FM" used for years - "Today's R&B and Classic Soul."

There's not much originality in the world of radio brands and slogans.
 
TheBigA said:
ChannelFlipper said:
recto101 said:
I think 94.7 KMET could come back soon
or 94.7 The Quiet Storm could be in the running by CBS.

Reality Check says no.

FYI: A radio station in DC owns the rights to the name "Quiet Storm," and any radio station that uses it must pay them a royalty. So don't expect to hear that name used in LA.

I seem to remember hearing current KTWV middayer Talaya Trigueros on the old KUTE 102 (At 101.9) when it was the Quiet Storm in the 80's. I could be wrong as she doesn't list it on her bio on the WAVE website, but I think so.
 
michael hagerty said:
ChannelFlipper said:
Now that I think about it, when KTWV first went on the air in 1987 with their new age format, "You're Latest Trick" was on the playlist for quite awhile. They also played plenty of Steely Dan, particularly all seven tracks off the Aja album.
There are a few airchecks of The Wave's first year in circulation. I heard them earlier this year and was reminded why I liked the station in the first place...they played great stuff from artists like Steely Dan, Dire Straits, Joe Jackson, Joni Mitchell, Rickie Lee Jones and Van Morrison in addition to the jazz base.

It seems like once the "smooth jazz" label was affixed, the music got narrower. It's been successful, but I think of the format now as being intended for women older than me...and I'm a 53 year old male who loved The Wave at age 31.

I used to love The Wave, circa late-80's. They had a feel that was similar to the old Mellow Rock KNX-FM and an eclectic playlist of Pop, Rock, New Age, Jazz, and R&B. In addition to the above-mentioned artists, one could also hear Chet Atkins, Level 42, Sting, Robbie Robertson, Michael Tomlinson, Santana, Stevie Wonder, Michael Franks, etc. I remember the format being labeled "Adult Alternative" for a short while. But it wasn't long before programmers had to choose whether they wanted to lean rock and be AAA or lean rhythmic and be Smooth Jazz. The Wave went the latter route and succeeded but I do miss the original. I can still hear that baritone TOH ID, "KT...WV...Los Angeles...Ninety-Four Seven...The Wave."
 
AM FM listener said:
michael hagerty said:
ChannelFlipper said:
Now that I think about it, when KTWV first went on the air in 1987 with their new age format, "You're Latest Trick" was on the playlist for quite awhile. They also played plenty of Steely Dan, particularly all seven tracks off the Aja album.
There are a few airchecks of The Wave's first year in circulation. I heard them earlier this year and was reminded why I liked the station in the first place...they played great stuff from artists like Steely Dan, Dire Straits, Joe Jackson, Joni Mitchell, Rickie Lee Jones and Van Morrison in addition to the jazz base.

It seems like once the "smooth jazz" label was affixed, the music got narrower. It's been successful, but I think of the format now as being intended for women older than me...and I'm a 53 year old male who loved The Wave at age 31.

I used to love The Wave, circa late-80's. They had a feel that was similar to the old Mellow Rock KNX-FM and an eclectic playlist of Pop, Rock, New Age, Jazz, and R&B. In addition to the above-mentioned artists, one could also hear Chet Atkins, Level 42, Sting, Robbie Robertson, Michael Tomlinson, Santana, Stevie Wonder, Michael Franks, etc. I remember the format being labeled "Adult Alternative" for a short while. But it wasn't long before programmers had to choose whether they wanted to lean rock and be AAA or lean rhythmic and be Smooth Jazz. The Wave went the latter route and succeeded but I do miss the original. I can still hear that baritone TOH ID, "KT...WV...Los Angeles...Ninety-Four Seven...The Wave."

Yes there were similarities to KNX-FM and it didn't hurt that their imaging was handled by Michael Sheehy who was the PD at KNX FM in the late 70's and early to mid 80's. He was, and still is superb. Too bad they don't use him anymore.
 
calguy said:
TheBigA said:
ChannelFlipper said:
recto101 said:
I think 94.7 KMET could come back soon
or 94.7 The Quiet Storm could be in the running by CBS.

Reality Check says no.

FYI: A radio station in DC owns the rights to the name "Quiet Storm," and any radio station that uses it must pay them a royalty. So don't expect to hear that name used in LA.

I seem to remember hearing current KTWV middayer Talaya Trigueros on the old KUTE 102 (At 101.9) when it was the Quiet Storm in the 80's. I could be wrong as she doesn't list it on her bio on the WAVE website, but I think so.

The Reason I suggested that 94.7 The wave should be called 94.7 The Quiet Storm is because their current playlist seems more parallel to KBLX. KTWV was originally a KFOG type station in the 1987 to 1990. Look At old KKSF they were more oriented in attracting KOIT audiences and KBLX audiences to that station.
 
recto101 said:
The Reason I suggested that 94.7 The wave should be called 94.7 The Quiet Storm is because their current playlist seems more parallel to KBLX. KTWV was originally a KFOG type station in the 1987 to 1990. Look At old KKSF they were more oriented in attracting KOIT audiences and KBLX audiences to that station.

One of the changes that format took was away from soft rock (which was already being done in soft AC), and towards a soft urban. Toni Braxton and Anita Baker, instead of Steely Dan and Rickie Lee Jones. Then a whole bunch of actual smooth jazz artists appeared, with jazz-based instrumental music, and they had a distinctive format that didn't compete with any form of rock or pop.
 
I noticed if you go to the Bay area Radio Museum KKSF playlistr for the first 30 min in 1987 was like 98.1 KissFm and KOIT.
 
calguy said:
I seem to remember hearing current KTWV middayer Talaya Trigueros on the old KUTE 102 (At 101.9) when it was the Quiet Storm in the 80's. I could be wrong as she doesn't list it on her bio on the WAVE website, but I think so.

Talaya was at KUTE 1984-87, she moved from SF KBLX which had a "Quiet Storm" format and moved to KUTE. Apparantly the owners of KBLX also owned KUTE. Was it Golden West? This info comes from Don Barrett's LA Radio People book.
 
SuperRadioFan said:
calguy said:
I seem to remember hearing current KTWV middayer Talaya Trigueros on the old KUTE 102 (At 101.9) when it was the Quiet Storm in the 80's. I could be wrong as she doesn't list it on her bio on the WAVE website, but I think so.

Talaya was at KUTE 1984-87, she moved from SF KBLX which had a "Quiet Storm" format and moved to KUTE. Apparantly the owners of KBLX also owned KUTE. Was it Golden West? This info comes from Don Barrett's LA Radio People book.

KBLX still calls itself The Quiet Storm. I don't know about KUTE, but KBLX is owned by Inner City Broadcasting, and I believe that same company has owned the station since the late 1970s. Under the previous owner, the call letters were KRE (AM & FM), and didn't use the "Quiet Storm" handle, though the format was similar.

I recall that at the time of the purchase, the company was publicized as the first African-American owned radio broadcasting corporation.
 
I'm not sure when Golden West acquired the 101.9 frequency. I believe that they changed the format to Rock, first as KMPC-FM and then as The Edge before taking it to a Lite AC format. It may have been Inner City when Talaya was there, just can't remember.
 
calguy said:
I'm not sure when Golden West acquired the 101.9 frequency. I believe that they changed the format to Rock, first as KMPC-FM and then as The Edge before taking it to a Lite AC format. It may have been Inner City when Talaya was there, just can't remember.

After the AC format as K-lit (hypen essential) the facility became KSCA and did AAA, with shares in the 1.1-1.2 range most of the time. In 1997, it was LMAed to Hispanic Broadcasting, which changed the format to Spanish language regional Mexican.
 
calguy said:
I seem to remember hearing current KTWV middayer Talaya Trigueros on the old KUTE 102 (At 101.9) when it was the Quiet Storm in the 80's. I could be wrong as she doesn't list it on her bio on the WAVE website, but I think so.

Inner City, per the 1981 Broadcasting Yearbook at www.americanradiohistory.com, owned KUTE as well as KGFJ.
Talaya was at KUTE 1984-87, she moved from SF KBLX which had a "Quiet Storm" format and moved to KUTE. Apparantly the owners of KBLX also owned KUTE. Was it Golden West? This info comes from Don Barrett's LA Radio People book.
 
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