WBAP will be simulcasting on 93.3 FM

[Mediafrog+]

WRR lasted a long time with 'Slow Jim Lowe' who had a country hit in the 1950s called Behind The Green Door.

Don’t think Green Door was ever considered a Country tune. It was indeed a huge pop hit in 1956.

Did Jim Lowe ever work at WRR? He was an air personality at a number of stations.

Jim Lowe - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Their MOR format was made unique with their "Library of Laffs" at 45 minutes past every hour. I heard George Carlin for the first time on WRR 1310, my Dad's favorite station at the time. By about 1972 I think, you were hearing things like Riders On The Storm by The Doors and Knocking On Heaven's Door by Bob Dylan amid the Frank Sinatra and such. In the final years they went talk but stopped that and I think were a combination of talk and music but by then it was beautiful music (at night, anyway).

I recall in the 1970s 1310 WRR’s music was a bit all over the place.

The station dropped music in 1975 and became a full time affiliate of NBC’s News and Information Service (NIS) but I can’t remember if it stayed with the network until its demise two years later. There was a talk format between NIS and the sale and flip to KAAM early in 1978. I seem to recall WRR even had the short-lived national version of Herb Jepko’s Nitecap phone-in show, which was on the Mutual network…or is that a false memory?

BTW WRR wasn’t the only NIS affiliate in DFW. KRXV 1540 in Fort Worth also carried the network for about a year in 1976-77.

 

[semoochie]

Yes. As you'll see in the information provided by Huff, WRR's license was surrendered at one time. Even so, there are those that argue those police broadcasts in 1921 predate any transmission from Pittsburgh and, as such, WRR in Dallas should be considered the first station to operate in the continental United States.

I am not in agreement with those that make such an argument.

KDKA is well known for carrying the Harding-Cox election results in 1920.

 

[AlanB]

Before I understood how radio really worked, I remember being in the car with my uncle during the time that I know now that KAFM and KAAM were simulcasting. I wondered how somehow we were hearing an FM station on AM when I heard the legal ID "KAFM Dallas/Fort Worth, KAAM Dallas."

 

[Holstead]

Wasn't "Behind the Green Door" a porno movie in the 70's?

 

[AlanB]

If anyone from WBAP is reading this: now that the FM call sign change is official, remember that Haltom City is a suburb of and borders the city of Fort Worth. Dallas is 33 miles east of Haltom City. Therefore it's WBAP-FM Haltom City/FORT WORTH/Dallas, not the other way around. 😇

 

[SomeRadioGuy]

If anyone from WBAP is reading this: now that the FM call sign change is official, remember that Haltom City is a suburb of and borders the city of Fort Worth. Dallas is 33 miles east of Haltom City. Therefore it's WBAP-FM Haltom City/FORT WORTH/Dallas, not the other way around. 😇

Nope, doesnt matter.. they can say whatever they want after the city of license and almost every time, if a second city is said after the city of license.. it's the one theyre targetting.

 

[bturner1]

It does not matter. The ID must have the city of license (Haltom City) followed by anything WBAP desires.

 

[LibertyNT]

Would probably make the most sense to roll with WBAP Fort Worth WBAP-FM Haltom City-Dallas.

 

[Deleted member 76036]

Would probably make the most sense to roll with WBAP Fort Worth WBAP-FM Haltom City-Dallas

Just changed over to WBAP-FM with the 1 a.m. ID:

https://legalids.chriscervantez.com/DFW-Legal-IDs/DFW-2024/0933-WBAP-HD1-012224-1am.wav

 

[mightynine]

Just changed over to WBAP-FM with the 1 a.m. ID:

https://legalids.chriscervantez.com/DFW-Legal-IDs/DFW-2024/0933-WBAP-HD1-012224-1am.wav

Well, that's a mouthful.

 

[SomeRadioGuy]

Well, that's a mouthful.

No, THIS is a mouthful

KSKO LEGAL ID B OCTOBER 2022.wav

drive.google.com

 

[semoochie]

Well, that's a mouthful.

That isn't legal because there is no such thing as an AM suffix!

 

[101tm]

Forgive me if it’s been mentioned - but did Cumulus turn the stereo carrier off on 93.3? Should help a bit with the coverage to the north which they need.

 

[Deleted member 76036]

Forgive me if it’s been mentioned - but did Cumulus turn the stereo carrier off on 93.3? Should help a bit with the coverage to the north which they need.

I didn’t have the answer at the time and my radios that are out and not in my storage closet don’t have a stereo indicator. However, I just heard a PSA with great left and right channel separation, so I turned off the HD in my car and it was still happening. So…93.3’s analog is still in stereo.

 

[secondchoice]

That isn't legal because there is no such thing as an AM suffix!

I have never heard of anyone getting fined for tacking on AM for an AM station during an ID. The first station I was at used: "WDBL AM and FM Springfield". The FCC was at the station checking stations for Cigarette commercials early in 1972 and bound to have heard it.
IMHO I question the need for "legal IDs". The FCC allows "auctioneer IDs" buried in commercial stop sets. And the "natural" program break is O feel is abused. I heard one station in Atlanta do their ID at 2:47 played at least 3 more commercials, then started a music sweep that lasted more than 20 minutes.

 

[semoochie]

I have never heard of anyone getting fined for tacking on AM for an AM station during an ID. The first station I was at used: "WDBL AM and FM Springfield". The FCC was at the station checking stations for Cigarette commercials early in 1972 and bound to have heard it.
IMHO I question the need for "legal IDs". The FCC allows "auctioneer IDs" buried in commercial stop sets. And the "natural" program break is O feel is abused. I heard one station in Atlanta do their ID at 2:47 played at least 3 more commercials, then started a music sweep that lasted more than 20 minutes.

I'm not sure when it was decided that the only acceptable I.D. was call letters followed by community of license with nothing between except frequency or licensee. It may have still been OK in 1972 to use the AM suffix. I remember that there was a big issue about KPAM and KPFM IDing as KPAM and FM!

 

[secondchoice]

I'm not sure when it was decided that the only acceptable I.D. was call letters followed by community of license with nothing between except frequency or licensee. It may have still been OK in 1972 to use the AM suffix. I remember that there was a big issue about KPAM and KPFM IDing as KPAM and FM!

It has been 1970 when I took the FCC tests, but I don't remember a lot of questions about station IDs on the tests.

The only folks to have issues with a station ID I personally heard was Nashville's 92 Q WBYQ Goodlettsville during the mid 1970s. They reversed the leads on one of the channels just for Goodlettsville You couldn't hear Goodlettsville on a mono radio.

 

[semoochie]

It has been 1970 when I took the FCC tests, but I don't remember a lot of questions about station IDs on the tests.

The only folks to have issues with a station ID I personally heard was Nashville's 92 Q WBYQ Goodlettsville during the mid 1970s. They reversed the leads on one of the channels just for Goodlettsville You couldn't hear Goodlettsville on a mono radio.

I seriously doubt if there was anything on the first and second phone tests about station ID rules. The only place it would make any sense would be maybe, the broadcast endorsement on the third phone and I don't remember that either. 1970 is just about when I got my third phone.

 

[Deleted member 108832]

The rule is that the ID must be given in the form of "KXXX (or WXXX) Anytown". An FM with the same set as an AM must use the -FM suffix. The only items permitted between the calls and COL is the frequency or dial position, and/or the company name such as "KXXX 87.9 ABC Media Anytown". As long as the operator is making an attempt at a legitimate identification, I just don't get all the fuss. The ones that give no ID at all is a different story, but just because it may be a little off should be no reason to cause concern.

We have a local broadcaster here in Tyler that IDs his primary AM's translator without mentioning the "K". The ID goes "KYZS 1490 AM and translator 239CB 95.7 FM Tyler". You'd have to be pretty petty to take him to task over that. There are far worse ones (and entirely buried or omitted) out there.

 

[secondchoice]

There is a way to ID a translator without saying it on air. I have never personally seen the "frequently shift box" installed but apparently it's legal. I just wonder if is cost effective. Vocal IDs are free, except for paying someone for the less than 10 minutes to record and digitally speed it up to auctioneer speed. Most production folks are there any way hopefully recording or dubing many many commercials.