WCIN: Jockeying on a crowded dial

[Oscar]

Re: You're so clueless, Part 2

> The audience doesn't want syndicated sound-alike stuff.
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That must be why Rush and Hannity are huge failures....and ESPN Radio and FSR are going out of business...NOT!
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> Does ESPN Radio get decent ratings anywhere?
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When you target a demo like sports radio does in general, then yes, you get decent ratings.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Oscar on 09/13/05 05:07 PM.</FONT></P>

 

[nocece]

> Without consolodation, several Cincy area AMs would have
> signed off the air by now.

You make it sound like that's a bad thing.

Maybe some of those stations should have gone off the air, judging by what they air now.

 

[nocece]

Re: You're so clueless, Part 2

> I agree with Oscar. Your posts on this thread are the most
> ignorant that I've ever seen. Radio is a BUSINESS.

The radio business has gotten to be too much business, and not enough radio.

Stuffed shirt business types aren't too good at making good radio.

> To have
> a successful business you have to actually turn a profit.

A lot of the small independently owned stations that aired local programming must have been fairly profitable. They did play commercials, and they did manage to stick with the same format for years.

There has to be a reason why independent stations are less profitable than they were before 1996.

 

[The RadioFan]

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> quit whining that it's out of your control, and that it's
> someone elses fault. It's YOUR fault!

I'll be glad when you quit your whining
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[keys2]

Re: You're so clueless, it hurts

> I know several people who will agree with me that WCLU (when
> it was Top 40) was the best commercial station EVER in this
> market.


Bandit, I'm glad you post here. You definitely light up this board. Hey, I remember when WCLU was country and western in the late 60s and early 70s. BIG CLU RADIO. They really did sound pretty good then, even though I rarely listened. They were one of several daytime-only C&W stations. The others were WZIP 1050 and WCNW 1560. And then along came "Countrypolitan" WUBE 1230 around 1970....Cincy's first 24-hour country station. But I digress.

I realize CLU 132 holds a warm spot in your heart, but truthfully, Irv was barely able to make ends meet during that point in WCLU's history. Nobody listened except for a few in northern Kentucky. The signal throughout the rest of the metro has always been terrible. I can appreciate your nostalgia for what was obviously a special time for you. But being the liberal that we know you are, you think too much with your heart and not enough with your brain.

Everyone is right, Bandit. Radio is a business and you have to program accordingly. I miss the days of real jazz on WNOP 740, the progressive rock of WOXR 97.7 back in the 70s, and the soul and R&B of WCIN and Dayton's WDAO-FM 107.7 back in their hey day. But times change. It's a different world. I don't listen to FM anymore. I have XM and Sirius for music. I listen primarily to AM if not listening to music. Maybe you too should consider sat radio. XM in particular reminds me a little of the eclectic early days of FM radio.

 

[nocece]

Re: You're so clueless, it hurts

> Maybe
> you too should consider sat radio. XM in particular reminds
> me a little of the eclectic early days of FM radio.

Why pay for decent radio when I used to get it for free?

 

[keys2]

Re: You're so clueless, it hurts

> Why pay for decent radio when I used to get it for free?


Obviously you missed my point, bandit.

 

[ajhenderson]

> Without consolodation, several Cincy area AMs would have
> signed off the air by now. By the way, before 1996 the major
> stations werent owned by individuals. Just different
> corporations.

Symantically correct. Companies like Booth and Taft had a little more connection to their markets, however. And none were big enough to singularly make an impact on the industry like CC has.

Not a rant against CC, but a point of view.