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WDJO and BMI Music Fees

You're right. They hit 1.2 or 1.1 in spring books and 1.1 in winter 08 and 09. I forgot how much fun it is to thumb through these old books. Without giving out the number, they came mighty close to that last year. I wonder how much PPM vs. diary makes?
 
For Once, we agree.


DJJack1 said:
As of today I've given up on them too. I can hear Imus on iHeart, the music sucks and they can't even update their damned forecasts <heard yesterday's forecast this afternoon at 5:20>.

Hello, WGRR. Nice to meet you.
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MTHBSTR said:
You're right. They hit 1.2 or 1.1 in spring books and 1.1 in winter 08 and 09. I forgot how much fun it is to thumb through these old books. Without giving out the number, they came mighty close to that last year. I wonder how much PPM vs. diary makes?
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The 1.1, winter numbers were a big deal due to the power issue.
 
WDJO: case dismissed

Better check that link. Looks like the WDJO/BMI case was settled.

Heard a promo for UC baseball in the evenings. Sounds like the money is still rolling in.
 
Ownership has the money, it's just parting with it that's the problem. Nobody wants to feed a sinking ship. It's called saving face. Good for them for paying some of their bills. Too bad they had to be sued in order to do it.
 
Money from UC baseball---are you kidding?

I hear you can pick up wrestling from St Jude for a couple hundred a month. Wooo Hooo
 
the reason WDJO has failed is the same reason you cite for running college bball--- When you are a limited signal Am you damn better have a programming strategy and feet on the street to sell it--- there is nobody trying to monetize this sucker--- the top 20% of spots are from the same 6 sponsors (3 of them trade). From day one, this has been a sales issue. The Kauffmann family are all great sellers. How many calls have they made? One is in Texas. One in Hamilton, one MIA. If these folks had used their sales skills, WDJO would a profitable family business rather than the failing hobby that it is today. It is very sad to see... had anyone treated this like a real business it would have been fine.
 
I think at this point it's moot. They need to make money however they can. The fact that this station has been on the air for seven years and survived a frequency change says something. It would have likely taken this route anyway. These signal challenged AMs can't survive by themselves. It's just too difficult. The economy is terrible. I don't know why it's bad to have the same six sponsors if their checks clear.
Having a programming strategy doesn't help if you can't support it. It's not easy to sell these things. Even the Kaufmans aren't miracle workers.
 
They were marginally successful until they got greedy (or desperate) at the time of the freq change-- No one ever said they would work miracles--- but making your 10 calls a day should have yielded revenue-- 3 people that consider themselves top sellers in the business can't make this work?

Moonies at the airport could have made this work.. and you would have gotten a nice flowery lapel pin.

Insurance agency, Edward Jones, Subway, Check Cashing joint -- all would have failed- This was never platform problem---it was a sales problem---and you are right --- tis moot...
 
This station is difficult to sell at best. Advertisers say they don't get a response to their spots. "You need to advertise your station more." "No one knows who you are." "No one is listening."

Management doesn't buy the book so there's no numbers. SO if you have no numbers and no response to the ads you sell, what's the point of advertising on this station other then it's really cheap to buy time and as a business owner you can hear your business named a bunch of times on the air for little money.

It's a good thing management doesn't have to make a living off this station.
 
Could 1480 be for sale?

A broker in Cincy is peddling a 4,500 daytimer and 300 watt night timer.

A metro Cincy station with daytime signal reaching into Middletown.

Sounds like they are shopping to get out.
 
dellmonte57 said:
Could 1480 be for sale?

A broker in Cincy is peddling a 4,500 daytimer and 300 watt night timer.

A metro Cincy station with daytime signal reaching into Middletown.

Sounds like they are shopping to get out.
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It's been available. The bad news is the price should probably be 200 with terms.
 
The price should be $200,000 with terms? Recall they paid about $550,000 for the station a few years ago. $200,000 sounds like a pretty low figure to me. The tower site land must not be included with the deal at that price. What would one get for purchasing WDJO beside the license, transmitter
and towers?
 
In Comparison, 1320 WCVG is on the market for $725,000 which went for 1.9 million in 2006. Not to mention 910 which is also having a hard time finding a buyer willing to pay the asking price.
 
microbob said:
In Comparison, 1320 WCVG is on the market for $725,000 which went for 1.9 million in 2006. Not to mention 910 which is also having a hard time finding a buyer willing to pay the asking price.
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It really doesn't matter what its on the market for. I passed at 350. Gallagher bought it for 4 something. It is a mess and probably worth about 200.
Shoot. I paid north of 7mil for what i bought. Its a different day, friend.
 
I could see getting all 3 of these signals for a million or so, but none of them have FM translators which is a must have for each of these signals in order to have a chance at making some your investment back.
 
microbob said:
I could see getting all 3 of these signals for a million or so, but none of them have FM translators which is a must have for each of these signals in order to have a chance at making some your investment back.
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We've been talking about two. Which one is the third signal?
 
1320 unless I'm mistaken and it's not for sale. I wasn't aware that 1480 is on the market until an earlier poster said they thought it was.
 
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