A lot of them, especially in the crowded Northeast.
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WECK Getting another FM signal
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A lot of them, especially in the crowded Northeast.
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Buddy Shula
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FOUR4ROCK, what an idiot thing to say. I have used Buddy Shula , yes, my radio name, real one is William J Ostrander, since I was on the radio at 15 years old at WPhD. I have been called Buddy all my life. Shula just sounded better than Ostrander. I was not trying to hide behind anything like you are. Even my family knows me better as Buddy Shula, they came up the Pseudonym. That is a really stupid statement you made a few posts ago, and just a childish analogy. It may be the most ridiculous reason for a post I have ever heard. As for WECK, that is ridiculous as well. Nielson says WECK is a top ten station, with a 3.7 share and 70,000 cume listeners per week, mainly in Erie County. I have no idea the types of people you are "running in to" and I don't care to know, but I just gave you the facts on our listenership. By the way, "tough guy" , what's your real name? Don't want to say, do you? Because your a nothing. Your a troll. Go find a job.
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Buddy Shula
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I just looked back at Four4rock posts from a few month ago, and he posted that he did not even realize sandy beach was still alive! He was serious. Why didn’t you tell us you are not in Buffalo, (Moderator has edited obscenity)xxxx? No one you don’t run into anyone that listens to weck, your not in Buffalo. For anyone who wants to see this idiots posts just go back a few months. He’s clueless on buffalo radio
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The use of "radio names" is quite common in the industry, particularly among those who got into the business via the programming side. I know of several who, later in life, actually changed their legal name to their "air name" because nobody knew them by their given name.
"Buddy Shula" is a name that is well known in Buffalo, and many listeners and, particularly clients, know Buddy.
Are you even in Buffalo? A station with nearly a 4 share has an obviously decent listener base.
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Buddy Shula
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He not in Buffalo. Just trolling from afar. If he’s in Buffalo, let him say his name.
Who goes around striking up conversation with others by asking what radio station they listen to? Depending on their age they might not listen to radio in the traditional form at all. If four4rock does this and tries to pass it off as some kind of market research I think that's a mistaken approach to trying to figure out who listens to what station.
We refer to that as "anecdotal experience." I haven't seen many threads here about WYRK or WBLK, but they are statistically the most listened-to stations in Buffalo.
That's because those listeners aren't P1s on a message board tailored to the industry. They just listen.
Yes I understand that. That refers to anecdotal comments from "four4rock."
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Buddy Shula
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The reason you have not heard to much about these stations is there is nothing to talk about. They are Jukeboxes. It's not the station they care about, it's the music. At WECK, they care about the station.
If you changed the music, would they care as much? Try it for a day.
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Buddy Shula
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We would care. They would go to satellite or pandora. Big A , start a thread about something interesting going on at YRK, that would get a ton of response. You won’t find anything to talk about. They are liner jocks, and music. Nothing interesting and market changing.
Listen to WYRK's morning show and ask yourself why they're beating your guy. It's not just the music and they don't just read liners.
Having said that, if liners and non-stop music got you a 5 share, would you do it?
What a stupid thing to say. Roger Christian has been on WECK for what, a month now? And Clay Moden's been there at least 15 years.
Just FYI, Clay was also beating Tom & Gail. How long was Tom there for? But Roger isn't new to the market either.
This is not a recent thing.
WYRK has one of the most devoted bases of P1 listeners in the market, if not the country. Same with 97 Rock, Kiss and the Edge. To call a station "liner readers" is absurd and vain. ALL stations read liners. It's how the liners are read and adapted by the air personality. Whether live or voice-tacked, today's best air talent personalize and localize the liners, not by saying "hey look at me," but with an attitude of "it's all about you... the listener." From my hearing, WYRK air personalities do a damn fine job of personalizing and localizing the liners. Same for 97 Rock and Kiss. How many stations can fill the downtown baseball stadium for a country show year in and year out. WYRK does it. Consistently. Long-winded-aimless raps about doing your laundry and are out. Have a point. Make it interesting for the listener, whether it's reading a liner or talking about shopping at Tops, Wegman's or Dash's.
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Buddy Shula
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I gave my answer....You tell me why nobody talks about these stations, on this board, outside this board, in the paper, on the streets, etc? The cume of these stations has fallen. I am a P1 country listener for 30 years. It is my favorite format by far, but I have not listened to YRK in probably 10 years. I listen to Y2K Country or Prime Country on Sirius, or my amazon music. There is no doubt that these are big stations....but my point is that nobody is talking about them anymore, because there is nothing to talk about. They do a fine job as radio stations, but their marketing is non-existent. Let's get the radio wars back! It is the fault of deregulation. That is why I can take chances at WECK. I don't have 5 other stations to worry if I am hurting in my cluster. When i take chances, people talk. Many , many, people i talk to, young and old, especially young do not even think about radio as a medium. It's uncool to them. My job, is to try to make it cooler to the older audience who still have an appreciation for it. I think WECK has done a great job at that. And by the way, WYRK does not fill the stadium every year. It is an annual event. It would sell out even if YRK had nothing to do with it. This coming year is the first year in 20, that Jam in the Valley will not happen. They are losing money. YRK is involved in that every year. 1077 has great concerts but at the bottom of the barrel in ratings. It has nothing to do with the station. It has everything to do with the event. I used to go to Starry Night in the Garden every year with 102.5, and would ask people about the station. They had no idea that a station was even involved or there. It's fine to be a decent radio station, but how are you really getting people to talk around the water cooler?
Actually that's not true. Just today, it was announced that the Trailblazer Festival will replace the Taste of Country Festival in Hunter:
Same weekend, but this year it will be run by Live Nation. So yes, Townsquare is getting out of the concert business. Yes it was losing money. So they turned it over to experts who know how to do big music festivals. But I expect WYRK will still be involved in it. Live Nation always works with radio in all of their festivals.
EDIT: I just saw that we're talking about two different festivals. Very likely that with Live Nation coming in, they shut down any nearby competition.
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why does no one talk about these other stations? this is a board of radio geeks.. and we like the underdog around here usually... and you keep coming back to defend yourself and the station despite saying you wont
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Buddy Shula
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I was talking about jam in the valley in varysburg, which I hosted for, ten years. There is also jamboree in the hills in wheeling West Virginia, which since live nation has taken over, is no longer going either.
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