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weei vs. wfan?

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blamethemayo

which is a better sports radio station?

i know weei tries to present itself as the 'gold standard', but ive always thought fan is a better sports talk station.

apples and oranges...i know.
 
blamethemayo said:
which is a better sports radio station?

i know weei tries to present itself as the 'gold standard', but ive always thought fan is a better sports talk station.

apples and oranges...i know.
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WEEI,The Only Great Station in this Hell hole Radio dial Market . WFAN Sports Flash SUCK ! A Female wins a car race ( Mrs Patrick )for the first ever, and WFAN Never mention it .
 
rapking said:
blamethemayo said:
which is a better sports radio station?

i know weei tries to present itself as the 'gold standard', but ive always thought fan is a better sports talk station.

apples and oranges...i know.
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WEEI,The Only Great Station in this Hell hole Radio dial Market . WFAN Sports Flash SUCK ! A Female wins a car race ( Mrs Patrick )for the first ever, and WFAN Never mention it .
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This could seriously break down into a Boston/New York, Sox/Yanks pissing contest. But, WFAN is better and if you disagree, you're wrong! :)
 
rapking said:
blamethemayo said:
which is a better sports radio station?

i know weei tries to present itself as the 'gold standard', but ive always thought fan is a better sports talk station.

apples and oranges...i know.
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WEEI,The Only Great Station in this Hell hole Radio dial Market . WFAN Sports Flash SUCK ! A Female wins a car race ( Mrs Patrick )for the first ever, and WFAN Never mention it .
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I'd be quite surprised if they didn't mention that. They mention all the WNBA and tennis scores in their updates, things that WEEI would never go near.
 
I'm a big Boston Sports Fan, but I can't stand WEEI now. D/C v. Imus is a push...both suck. Dale and Holley do a better mid day show, but Mike and the Mad Dog are better than the Big Show, unless Lou Merloni is on. Do we really need a sports flash unless there are events going on? We all know the scores before we get to bed with the internet. If we're going to count Flash Boys WEEI will lose any battle with John Meterperal (to lazy to spell check his name) weighing down the team. While I'm still complaining about WEEI, they need a new voice over guy. Pete whatever his name is, has run out of material. His bits aren't funny. Saying all that, I know WEEI is doing great in the ratings and as long as every ex high school jock wants to call up and talk about "putting 7 in the box" or when to put on a hit and run it will get its ratings. Boston and New York have more than enough know it all sports fans to keep both stations up for a while.

Mule
 
I heard Ordway talking about this the other day... he basically said that Mike and the Mad Dog wouldn't work in Boston because it's a straight sports show whereas WEEI's programming fits into more of an entertainment category. I only caught part of his comments but that was the gist.

the comedy bits on WEEI are real hit and miss. I'm not a frequent FAN listener but do they have those bits on there?
 
kms575 said:
rapking said:
blamethemayo said:
which is a better sports radio station?

i know weei tries to present itself as the 'gold standard', but ive always thought fan is a better sports talk station.

apples and oranges...i know.
Click to expand...
WEEI,The Only Great Station in this Hell hole Radio dial Market . WFAN Sports Flash SUCK ! A Female wins a car race ( Mrs Patrick )for the first ever, and WFAN Never mention it .
Click to expand...

This could seriously break down into a Boston/New York, Sox/Yanks pissing contest. But, WFAN is better and if you disagree, you're wrong! :)
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If being a Sox/Pats/C's/B's/Rev's and WEEI fan is wrong, I don't want to be right!?! ;)
 
I will preface that growing up north of the NYC I am biased for anything there but being around WEEI the last few years I can see why it is one of the top stations in Boston. It would not fly in NY.
 
SonicAl said:
I heard Ordway talking about this the other day... he basically said that Mike and the Mad Dog wouldn't work in Boston because it's a straight sports show whereas WEEI's programming fits into more of an entertainment category. I only caught part of his comments but that was the gist.

the comedy bits on WEEI are real hit and miss. I'm not a frequent FAN listener but do they have those bits on there?
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id have to disagree with ordway on that. a mike and mad dog type show would work in boston. as it is i think mike and mad dog are far superior to the big show.
 
The stations are so fundamentally different that it's pointless to compare them. In some ways I find the FAN callers accents and sense of entitlement unlistenable. But if I wanted to hear a 20/20 at exactly on Twenty, I'd go to FAN and it would be there. This is a well run, if unsatisfying machine.

EEI's hosts can be jerks to the point of embarrassment: mine not theirs. Hardly a day goes by where I don't say I've had enough and preset off to another station.
Program content revolves around standard talk-radio staples, less sports dependant, than FAN.

* It would be cool if we had an power FM station to compete with EEI as FAN has the 1050 ESPN outfit, who took the msg teams away. Untill that happens EEI is going to stay the cash cow it has become, in spite of the high rights fees it must pay.
I would disagree with BigO that a Boston version of M&MD wouldn't work here. If you could actually understand them(unlike FAN) and they got rid of the Frank from Glouster types who make EEI a haven for geeks who love the sound of their own voices, a well run sports station do well.
 
I haven't listened to WFAN since the late 90s, when I worked in CT. I don't know if it's changed, but WFAN wouldn't have had the likes of Larry Johnson, Meterparel, Mustard, et al in any capacity; especially Larry Johnson. He'd be laughed off the air after five minutes. WEEI also has too many "Celebrity Callers" that get way too much air time. Danny from Quincy, Bill from NH, Frank from Gloucester, and many others just wouldn't get on as frequently or for as long.
 
Totally agree with the poster who said that they are two different animals. I grew up with The Fan and still hear it when I am in NY a few times a year. My two cents is that a WEEI type might compete in NY if it were done well, but a WFAN type would have a harder time in Boston because it is less appreciably different than some of the other sports stations that are failing/have already failed here. Love it or hate it, WEEI is unique. WEEI ranks higher than WFAN in both ratings and market share of revenue, but in the bigger NY market I assume The FAN faces better competition. My bottom line is that both serve their markets well. WEEI is more entertainment and hyperbole because we are all rooting for the same teams and we all hate the same teams. There is a common bond and we commisserate with each other when things are bad and we stick our chests out when things are good. Additionally, WEEI has created this locker room culture where the hosts rip each other and the callers. The callers are comfortable ripping the hosts and each other. The emotional connection between the station and its primary listeners is second to none. At The FAN, I haven't heard a lot of Boomer and Carton yet so I don't feel qualified to say much. I do like Boomer from his WEEI appearances though. The single host middays on The FAN are not appreciably better than Mike Mutnansky on WEEI weekends. Dale and Holley is more compelling with better guests. M&TMD is so different than Ordway that it comes down to individual preference. I have no use for M&TMD when they discuss horse racing or any college sport. Golf talk is iffy. If you like that variety, you might prefer them. I know a lot of NY sports fans who get disgusted with Francesa's know it all attitude and name dropping. Others hate when Russo goes on a rant before divulging, "Well Mikey, I didn't actually see the game." Nevertheless, they still listen to the show every day, the same way the people who decry Ordway's shoutfests seem to know all the characters and plot elements of The Big Show.

I guess I said all of that to eventually say, "to each his own", though as far as industry recognition goes, while WFAN was the first, WEEI may go down as the most successful.
 
Blackroc said:
The stations are so fundamentally different that it's pointless to compare them. In some ways I find the FAN callers accents and sense of entitlement unlistenable. But if I wanted to hear a 20/20 at exactly on Twenty, I'd go to FAN and it would be there. This is a well run, if unsatisfying machine.

EEI's hosts can be jerks to the point of embarrassment: mine not theirs. Hardly a day goes by where I don't say I've had enough and preset off to another station.
Program content revolves around standard talk-radio staples, less sports dependant, than FAN.

* It would be cool if we had an power FM station to compete with EEI as FAN has the 1050 ESPN outfit, who took the msg teams away. Untill that happens EEI is going to stay the cash cow it has become, in spite of the high rights fees it must pay.
I would disagree with BigO that a Boston version of M&MD wouldn't work here. If you could actually understand them(unlike FAN) and they got rid of the Frank from Glouster types who make EEI a haven for geeks who love the sound of their own voices, a well run sports station do well.
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ESPN 1050 AM in NYC has a 0.8 rating (12+).

They aren't competing much with the Fan at least ratings wise.

ESPN here got a 0.7 in the last book (no data for this one) so they are competing just the same, not to mention there is also 1510 here.

Not to mention ESPN there doesn't really try to compete at least with their daytime talk as it's all national based. So they aren't going after "NY Fans" really, just the national crowd/transplants/etc.
 
Michael Kay did a local afternoon show on ESPN 1050 in NY - did that go away?
 
Blackroc said:
The stations are so fundamentally different that it's pointless to compare them. In some ways I find the FAN callers accents and sense of entitlement unlistenable. But if I wanted to hear a 20/20 at exactly on Twenty, I'd go to FAN and it would be there. This is a well run, if unsatisfying machine.

EEI's hosts can be jerks to the point of embarrassment: mine not theirs. Hardly a day goes by where I don't say I've had enough and preset off to another station.
Program content revolves around standard talk-radio staples, less sports dependant, than FAN.

* It would be cool if we had an power FM station to compete with EEI as FAN has the 1050 ESPN outfit, who took the msg teams away. Untill that happens EEI is going to stay the cash cow it has become, in spite of the high rights fees it must pay.
I would disagree with BigO that a Boston version of M&MD wouldn't work here. If you could actually understand them(unlike FAN) and they got rid of the Frank from Glouster types who make EEI a haven for geeks who love the sound of their own voices, a well run sports station do well.
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there are some 'eei callers with repulsive accents as well. in fact, there are some hosts on 'eei with horrible accents. i physically cringe everytime ordway puts an 'r' in the word 'saw' that is almost as bad as that jordan's furniture guy talking about 'sofers'
 
blamethemayo said:
Blackroc said:
The stations are so fundamentally different that it's pointless to compare them. In some ways I find the FAN callers accents and sense of entitlement unlistenable. But if I wanted to hear a 20/20 at exactly on Twenty, I'd go to FAN and it would be there. This is a well run, if unsatisfying machine.

EEI's hosts can be jerks to the point of embarrassment: mine not theirs. Hardly a day goes by where I don't say I've had enough and preset off to another station.
Program content revolves around standard talk-radio staples, less sports dependant, than FAN.

* It would be cool if we had an power FM station to compete with EEI as FAN has the 1050 ESPN outfit, who took the msg teams away. Untill that happens EEI is going to stay the cash cow it has become, in spite of the high rights fees it must pay.
I would disagree with BigO that a Boston version of M&MD wouldn't work here. If you could actually understand them(unlike FAN) and they got rid of the Frank from Glouster types who make EEI a haven for geeks who love the sound of their own voices, a well run sports station do well.
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there are some 'eei callers with repulsive accents as well. in fact, there are some hosts on 'eei with horrible accents. i physically cringe everytime ordway puts an 'r' in the word 'saw' that is almost as bad as that jordan's furniture guy talking about 'sofers'
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LOL. The New York accent is definitely the lesser of 2 evils, IMHO. Interesting how sports radio brings out the accents so much.

Ever hear WIP, Philadelphia? I've never had the opportunity to listen, but I know the accent well :)
 
Dark Knight said:
Michael Kay did a local afternoon show on ESPN 1050 in NY - did that go away?
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They are all local pretty much, as it's the flagship for the network, but what I meant is most of the topics are national, as they almost all go out to all the affiliates.
 
Definitely WFAN IMHO!

I'm not familiar with who took the place of **** In The Morning, but you be certain that the conversation isn't anything like this:

WFAN Morning Host #1: How the hell do you lose a gorilla in a major city like New York?

WFAN Morning Host #2: Well, #1, Given the fact that the zoo is in the Bronx, it's pretty g**damned easy!

WFAN Morning Host #1: Yeah, it's getting so that you can't tell your average gorilla apart from your average gang member!

And you can bet your money that WFAN's afternoon sports hosts aren't putting up 'facts' like that 90% of the New York Red Bulls' fan base is comprised of illegal aliens, and they repeat that story every 2 minutes for the next 4 hours! Given WFAN's much lower rating than WEEI's, it's a given that 'FAN takes their sports far more seriously than Boston listeners IMHO! ;D
 
Dark Knight said:
Michael Kay did a local afternoon show on ESPN 1050 in NY - did that go away?
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He still does; in fact, it recently expanded from three hours to four upon the cancellation of Stephen A. Smith.
 
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