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Weigel Buying W27EA-D in Cleveland/Akron

The station, known as Channel 35, is getting new ownership after being part of Media-Com (owners of WNIR 100 FM in Akron) for so long.

Could all of Weigel's networks end up on the station?
 
I only see MeTV+ & the upcoming Story Television ending up there, and perhaps a diginet or two from other broadcasters that are not currently in the area. All their other diginets will likely stay where they're at as moving them to W27EA-D will reduce over-the-air viewership due to its smaller coverage area. If WOIO drops MeTV, or WBNX drops one or more of the Weigel diginets, then most likely it will head over to W27EA-D for the time being.

Or... If WOIO ever drops MeTV, could Weigel exchange it for one of the networks currently on WBNX to ensure that MeTV remains on a full power station? (Ex: Give WBNX MeTV in exchange for Decades, and place Decades on W27EA-D instead. Or simply light up a new sub on WBNX for MeTV).
 
If Retro TV if it is dropped, I suppose one of the other low power stations could pick it up. As for Son of Ghoul, who knows. Maybe it's time for him to hang it up. But before anything happens, Weigel has a lot of work to do to upgrade the vintage equipment at the station.I assume that will take a while.
 
If Retro TV if it is dropped, I suppose one of the other low power stations could pick it up. As for Son of Ghoul, who knows. Maybe it's time for him to hang it up. But before anything happens, Weigel has a lot of work to do to upgrade the vintage equipment at the station.I assume that will take a while.
WRAP-LD perhaps? I doubt that Son Of Ghoul will follow. Though, if WIVX-LD is allowed to move their transmitter closer to the Cleveland area, they'll have Retro on one of their subchannels, and I believe Son Of Ghoul on their main channel. The biggest problem with them will be their VHF frequency (RF 13), which will have 3 sources of co-channel interference, giving them a limited coverage area, primarily the Parma & Parma Heights suburbs, unless they can grab a better frequency (unlikely) or simply buy WRAP-LD off of its current owner, which will probably be nothing but infomercials for the foreseeable future.

Yes, Weigel will have to upgrade practically everything, so I'm not expecting a sudden switch once they take over W27EA-D. I wonder if they will setup a downlink at the transmitter site, or install a STL for a new studio location. They'll need some sort of studio setup for local programming inserts, assuming that they hold on to the Class A designation.
 
WRAP-LD perhaps? I doubt that Son Of Ghoul will follow. Though, if WIVX-LD is allowed to move their transmitter closer to the Cleveland area, they'll have Retro on one of their subchannels, and I believe Son Of Ghoul on their main channel. The biggest problem with them will be their VHF frequency (RF 13), which will have 3 sources of co-channel interference, giving them a limited coverage area, primarily the Parma & Parma Heights suburbs, unless they can grab a better frequency (unlikely) or simply buy WRAP-LD off of its current owner, which will probably be nothing but infomercials for the foreseeable future.

Yes, Weigel will have to upgrade practically everything, so I'm not expecting a sudden switch once they take over W27EA-D. I wonder if they will setup a downlink at the transmitter site, or install a STL for a new studio location. They'll need some sort of studio setup for local programming inserts, assuming that they hold on to the Class A designation.
The WIVX coverage map if it holds up doesn't look too bad for the metro Cleveland area and suburbs assuming you have a decent antenna.

 
I live in Southwestern Cuyahoga County. Which channels should I be able to pick up? Here's what I currently get with my rabbit ears in the living room.

WKYC-3 (and their diginets)
WEWS-5 (and their diginets)
WJW- 8 (and their diginets)
WOIO-19 (and their diginets)
WVIZ-25 (and their diginets)
Channel 35 (RetroTV)
WUAB-43 (and their diginets)
WBNX-55 (and their diginets)
WQHS-61 (and their diginets) (Is WQHS correct?)

I've been leary of re-programming my TV/converter for fear of losing RetroTV, channel 35. I have 3 over-the-air TV set-ups and only the one in the living room picks up channel 35.
 
I am in South Parma and just have rabbit ears in living room. In addition to those you listed, I also get 23 and 49. There are several low power stations that I get, but they air mostly infomercials, home shopping, televangelism and odd sporting events. I have most of them hidden on my TV since I don't care to watch any of that.
 
For what it's worth, I can get 35 fairly easy just SE of Akron. Sometimes it breaks up or just shows "no signal" on my set but for the most part it's there when I skip by it. I just can't stand the video quality, it's like they're trying to give up a 1950s TV experience in the 2020s.
 
I have 5 metro Cleveland area TV sets with indoor antennas. Digital reception changes daily and the antennas often need tweaking. 8, 23 and 19-43 are the most trouble prone, while 3,5,25,49,55 and 61 are almost always good.
LPTVs are another story. Each set picks up a different set of LPTVs. I'll scan one TV and next time some LPTV channels are gone and others appear. I used to get channels 41 and 26, now they're gone. There was a channel with a K call sign. Occasionally I got a WCDN, but not for a while now. Are they still broadcasting?
LPTV wise, today I get 6, 16 (used to be channel35), 20 and 35. Only watch some of Retro 35's bizarre old shows, Canadian series and SOG and I will miss them a bit.
 
For what it's worth, I can get 35 fairly easy just SE of Akron. Sometimes it breaks up or just shows "no signal" on my set but for the most part it's there when I skip by it. I just can't stand the video quality, it's like they're trying to give up a 1950s TV experience in the 2020s.
Could the poor video quality possibly be due to the shows coming from public domain VHS tapes or DVDs?
 
I am in South Parma and just have rabbit ears in living room. In addition to those you listed, I also get 23 and 49. There are several low power stations that I get, but they air mostly infomercials, home shopping, televangelism and odd sporting events. I have most of them hidden on my TV since I don't care to watch any of that.
Thanks for the update. Can you give me the call letters and channel numbers of all of the ones that I haven't gotten. If RetroTV goes away from channel 35 I may, very well, take a shot at re-programming.
 
I have 5 metro Cleveland area TV sets with indoor antennas. Digital reception changes daily and the antennas often need tweaking. 8, 23 and 19-43 are the most trouble prone, while 3,5,25,49,55 and 61 are almost always good.
LPTVs are another story. Each set picks up a different set of LPTVs. I'll scan one TV and next time some LPTV channels are gone and others appear. I used to get channels 41 and 26, now they're gone. There was a channel with a K call sign. Occasionally I got a WCDN, but not for a while now. Are they still broadcasting?
LPTV wise, today I get 6, 16 (used to be channel35), 20 and 35. Only watch some of Retro 35's bizarre old shows, Canadian series and SOG and I will miss them a bit.
I have never gotten channels 16, 26, 41, nor anything with a K call sign or WCDN. 49 used to come in a bit, but was not watchable. One of the worst things about this digital age is that, in the analog days, a weak reception would display itself as a snowy picture, but usually the sound was ok. Now if it's not good, I get a freeze frame followed by a black or blue screen if the freeze frame lasts too long.

Years ago, I got an amplified antenna, thinking that would increase my channels and viewing quality. It didn't. Even with stalwarts like 3,5,8 and 19, every once in a while, I'll get a freeze-up. I never lost their signal, in any way, during the analog decades.
 
Thanks for the update. Can you give me the call letters and channel numbers of all of the ones that I haven't gotten. If RetroTV goes away from channel 35 I may, very well, take a shot at re-programming.
Oh, I forgot to mention I also get 17, but that is actually a sub-channel of 23.

Check the following link. The first page has a listing of all the channels in NE Ohio:

 
The WIVX coverage map if it holds up doesn't look too bad for the metro Cleveland area and suburbs assuming you have a decent antenna.

An outdoor antenna would be the best solution, but with an indoor antenna, reception in areas other than the green will be problematic or non-existent with VHF broadcasts. With my outdoor antenna, WCDN-LD on RF 7 either comes in with heavy breakups or not at all, and their coverage map shows that I'm in the easy outdoor area. WIVX-LD will likely be be the same for me once they move closer to Cleveland, though there will be times when they won't come in at all due to WTVG from Toledo causing co-channel interference, which I'm able to fully decode during tropo events. Surprisingly, WIVX-LD at their current Akron location hasn't blocked out my ability to receive WTVG, even though their signal does make it to my location.
 
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones that receives just about every station from Cleveland. On my outdoor antenna, all the full powers come in without any issues, though the Akron stations break up occasionally as my antenna isn't aimed in that direction. W27EA-D comes in like a full power station with a SNR of ~35 dB, as well as WRAP-LD at ~31 dB, and WTCL-LD at 25-28 dB, which is a bit weaker due to adjacent interference from WKYC's RF 19. The HC2 Broadcasting stations are the more problematic ones as their signals are all rim shots in my area. WUEK-LD is the strongest of them all (19-20 dB), followed by WEKA-LD (~18 dB), then KONV-LD (15-16) dB, and trailing behind it is WQDI-LD (14-15 dB). All the HC2 broadcasting stations have slightly improved their signals since the repack, but they come and go at times depending on the weather and tropospheric events.

As mentioned above, WCDN-LD is pretty much a no-show most of the time. WGGN is only receivable when the weather is right, though their coverage is very spotty for me. I can't get WIVX-LD, and probably won't get it if/when they move closer to Cleveland.

I'm only about 18 miles away from the Parma tower farm and about 20 miles away from the Akron stations.
 
Could the poor video quality possibly be due to the shows coming from public domain VHS tapes or DVDs?

If they are, they must have obtained them from a Goodwill store.
 
Could the poor video quality possibly be due to the shows coming from public domain VHS tapes or DVDs?

If they are, they must have obtained them from a Goodwill store.
The poor video & audio quality is the result of the analog equipment that Media-Com has been holding onto for the last 35+ years. The only things they have upgraded/installed in the last several years were the transmitter, antenna, and essential digital equipment (encoder, PSIP generator, etc) in order to broadcast digitally. Everything before the transmitter is analog, including the STL, I which is believe is the result of the analog picture & sound. Hopefully all this will be a thing of the past once Weigel takes over and massively overhauls the station with updated equipment. I don't know if Weigel will simply run W27EA-D's operations from the transmitter site, or if they will lease out an office building and relay programming from there.

If Retro TV was seen in a proper digital presentation, I would assume that some of their programming would still look a bit iffy, especially if they are public domain prints. W27EA-D just makes them look even more retro by giving them a snowy feel. Also, I don't recall what the name was, but they did play a movie a year or two ago that was clearly from a VHS.
 
Do you shop at Goodwill?
Yaba may, or may not, but I frequently check out Thrift Stores. I'm there looking for interesting, and always cheap, records (LP and 45) and CDs. The personnel aren't, usually, familiar with what's valuable, and every once in a (sometimes) long while, you'll run into something cool. This could be for other products as well. A few examples:

* There was a cabinet they were selling. I opened it up and inside, in near perfect condition, were a bunch of original 45's (7" vinyl) records, in their original sleeves, from the 1950s. I, instantly, got just about every record by The Crew Cuts and a good number by The Diamonds (of "Little Darlin'" fame), among other pop items, all for around 25 cents (back then) each.

* Most LPs you'll find are ethnic albums (Polka's, Czech music, "The Sounds of Ireland", Scottish bagpipe music...), Broadway Soundtracks, Christmas albums and CDs and non-rock pop (Robert Goulet, Dean Martin, Al Martino, Jerry Vale...) but then... I found a solo Jimmy Ruffin (Motown artist) album I had never seen before. It was in good shape, and worth more than the $1.00 I paid for it.

* The very first record I bought from a thrift store in the 1970s was the hit single "Medicine Man" by The Buchanan Brothers, a Top 40 hit in 1969. Back then I paid no more than 25 cents for it.

* I found a 2-LP "Greatest Hit" set by the 1960s Swedish Rock band, The Hep Stars. It isn't a U.S. pressing. I'd never heard their music and it was satisfying to listen to these Swedish stars. The group featured keyboardist Benny Andersson who went on to world wide success in ABBA.

... and there are more good finds. Thanks to the low prices, I sometimes, buy CDs and LPs by artists I know of, but have only a passing interest in. Sometimes I'll find something good there that I, otherwise, would have never heard.

Thanks for reading this.
 
You find some great stuff, John. What was the song you played by the Hep Stars a while back? Also, I liked the one you played last night, Little Girl by Paul Parker. Love love love the guitar on that one! Too bad they don't make songs like that anymore.
 


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