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Weigel Buying W27EA-D in Cleveland/Akron

johnbasalla said:
Yaba may, or may not, but I frequently check out Thrift Stores. I'm there looking for interesting, and always cheap, records (LP and 45) and CDs. The personnel aren't, usually, familiar with what's valuable, and every once in a (sometimes) long while, you'll run into something cool. This could be for other products as well. A few examples:

* There was a cabinet they were selling. I opened it up and inside, in near perfect condition, were a bunch of original 45's (7" vinyl) records, in their original sleeves, from the 1950s. I, instantly, got just about every record by The Crew Cuts and a good number by The Diamonds (of "Little Darlin'" fame), among other pop items, all for around 25 cents (back then) each.

* Most LPs you'll find are ethnic albums (Polka's, Czech music, "The Sounds of Ireland", Scottish bagpipe music...), Broadway Soundtracks, Christmas albums and CDs and non-rock pop (Robert Goulet, Dean Martin, Al Martino, Jerry Vale...) but then... I found a solo Jimmy Ruffin (Motown artist) album I had never seen before. It was in good shape, and worth more than the $1.00 I paid for it.

* The very first record I bought from a thrift store in the 1970s was the hit single "Medicine Man" by The Buchanan Brothers, a Top 40 hit in 1969. Back then I paid no more than 25 cents for it.

* I found a 2-LP "Greatest Hit" set by the 1960s Swedish Rock band, The Hep Stars. It isn't a U.S. pressing. I'd never heard their music and it was satisfying to listen to these Swedish stars. The group featured keyboardist Benny Andersson who went on to world wide success in ABBA.

... and there are more good finds. Thanks to the low prices, I sometimes, buy CDs and LPs by artists I know of, but have only a passing interest in. Sometimes I'll find something good there that I, otherwise, would have never heard.

Thanks for reading this.
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I shop at some of those stores as well but I had to laugh at how Yaba tied it into RetroTV. I've picked up many records, CD's and DVD's some still in shrink wrap which amazes me. But I assume someone bought an item, forgot about it and maybe died or became sick and then the family either dumps all their stuff into the trash or has some sense and donates it for "recycling."
 
johnbasalla said:
Yaba may, or may not, but I frequently check out Thrift Stores. I'm there looking for interesting, and always cheap, records (LP and 45) and CDs. The personnel aren't, usually, familiar with what's valuable, and every once in a (sometimes) long while, you'll run into something cool. This could be for other products as well. A few examples:

* There was a cabinet they were selling. I opened it up and inside, in near perfect condition, were a bunch of original 45's (7" vinyl) records, in their original sleeves, from the 1950s. I, instantly, got just about every record by The Crew Cuts and a good number by The Diamonds (of "Little Darlin'" fame), among other pop items, all for around 25 cents (back then) each.

* Most LPs you'll find are ethnic albums (Polka's, Czech music, "The Sounds of Ireland", Scottish bagpipe music...), Broadway Soundtracks, Christmas albums and CDs and non-rock pop (Robert Goulet, Dean Martin, Al Martino, Jerry Vale...) but then... I found a solo Jimmy Ruffin (Motown artist) album I had never seen before. It was in good shape, and worth more than the $1.00 I paid for it.

* The very first record I bought from a thrift store in the 1970s was the hit single "Medicine Man" by The Buchanan Brothers, a Top 40 hit in 1969. Back then I paid no more than 25 cents for it.

* I found a 2-LP "Greatest Hit" set by the 1960s Swedish Rock band, The Hep Stars. It isn't a U.S. pressing. I'd never heard their music and it was satisfying to listen to these Swedish stars. The group featured keyboardist Benny Andersson who went on to world wide success in ABBA.

... and there are more good finds. Thanks to the low prices, I sometimes, buy CDs and LPs by artists I know of, but have only a passing interest in. Sometimes I'll find something good there that I, otherwise, would have never heard.

Thanks for reading this.
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The LP records used to sell for 50 cents, until recently when someone at corporate realized the resurgence in vinyl records and upped the price to $2.50. I've found a few LPs at Goodwill, but most of their selection consists of music prior to the '70s, and that mainly doesn't include rock/pop albums from well known artists, which are probably sought after by collectors and are sold very quickly. The bulk of their selections are from the '40s-'50s; big band, vocal, & easy listening. They do have a large selection though. Probably someone's collection that was donated after they moved into assisted living or passed away.

Yes, sometimes the staff at Goodwill will just make an approximate guess on the value of the donated item. That can either be a good thing or a bad thing. I came across a Beta VCR 3-4 years back, and someone knew that it was worth something as they wanted $50 for it. The bad thing was that the front buttons were falling off, and since you can't return purchased items, taking a gamble on something that costs $50 and likely doesn't work or can't be repaired isn't worth it. It sat on the shelf for a 2-3 months until someone eventually bought it, probably after drastically dropping the price.
 
skiwest said:
You find some great stuff, John. What was the song you played by the Hep Stars a while back? Also, I liked the one you played last night, Little Girl by Paul Parker. Love love love the guitar on that one! Too bad they don't make songs like that anymore.
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I've played a few songs by The Hep Stars in the past. I've aired "A Tribute to Buddy Holly" and "So Mystifying", which is a Ray Davies song originally recorded by The Kinks in 1964. The Hep Stars released their version in 1965.
 
snowdog88 said:
The LP records used to sell for 50 cents, until recently when someone at corporate realized the resurgence in vinyl records and upped the price to $2.50. I've found a few LPs at Goodwill, but most of their selection consists of music prior to the '70s, and that mainly doesn't include rock/pop albums from well known artists, which are probably sought after by collectors and are sold very quickly. The bulk of their selections are from the '40s-'50s; big band, vocal, & easy listening. They do have a large selection though. Probably someone's collection that was donated after they moved into assisted living or passed away.

Yes, sometimes the staff at Goodwill will just make an approximate guess on the value of the donated item. That can either be a good thing or a bad thing. I came across a Beta VCR 3-4 years back, and someone knew that it was worth something as they wanted $50 for it. The bad thing was that the front buttons were falling off, and since you can't return purchased items, taking a gamble on something that costs $50 and likely doesn't work or can't be repaired isn't worth it. It sat on the shelf for a 2-3 months until someone eventually bought it, probably after drastically dropping the price.
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I get the distinct impression that if something doesn't sell over a, maybe, set period of time, it may be thrown out so that there is room for more recently donated items. That's just a guess. At a Salvation Army store, for a long time I saw these absolutely beautiful box sets of LPs with music from the 1940s. All of a sudden they were all gone. That would cost a pretty penny for all of them. That's why I'm thinking they may have been dumped.
 
johnbasalla said:
I get the distinct impression that if something doesn't sell over a, maybe, set period of time, it may be thrown out so that there is room for more recently donated items. That's just a guess. At a Salvation Army store, for a long time I saw these absolutely beautiful box sets of LPs with music from the 1940s. All of a sudden they were all gone. That would cost a pretty penny for all of them. That's why I'm thinking they may have been dumped.
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Goodwill color-codes their items, so on a particular week, they'll have a sale for that color in an attempt to clear out the old inventory. But yes, I've seen particular albums (mostly CDs) that sat on the shelf for a long time, and after 4-5 weeks they suddenly disappear. They either go to another Goodwill location, or to their outlet store where they are sold for much less or by the pound. Anything left over probably then ends up in the bin.

I get mad with their CDs at times, as occasionally I'll find an album that I want, but the disc is missing from the case. Either the donor forgot to include it, it falls out at some point, or someone steals it, perhaps placing it in the case of another album that they plan on buying. Some, but not all employees check the cases upon checkout, and some have asked me if I checked to make sure the disc is there.
 
I pop into Goodwill every once in a while but lately their LP/45s/CD collections have been lacking. As mentioned, a lot of the stuff was ethnic/spoken word/religious/etc. My biggest regret was at a record store in Medina years ago and they had a huge selection of AT 40 LPs that had "magically" appeared from some radio station.I was between jobs then so didn't have the money to buy them at the time. When I went back a month later they had all been snapped up. Last time I found any good 45s was a huge stack of them at a thrift store in Tennessee. Bought them all for $5. Some interesting stuff but nothing that was very valuable
 
I am pretty sure that it's 35 that I saw repeats of old Doctor Who shows from the 70s/80s on there. The video quality was horrendous which I found surprising because BBC is usually pretty meticulous about remastering their old shows. There was an interesting story online I read that a lot of the BBC film/tapes of old Doctor Who shows were destroyed/taped over and they went on a worldwide search of stations that had shown them in the past to see if they had any of the old shows laying around. They weren't expecting much success because at the time they required those stations to either return the film/tapes or verify that they had been destroyed. Lo and behold, one station in some backwater part of Africa found an entire seasons worth of missing film in a stored in a trunk and got it back to the BBC.It was the only film of that season that they had found anywhere in the world.
 
With W27EA-D being sold to Weigel Broadcasting and WTCL-LD sold to Gray Broadcasting last year, I wonder how much longer it will be until WRAP-LD is put up for sale. Hopefully whoever buys them (if it's ever put up for sale) will put something else on other than 4 subchannels of infomercials. At least this means that the Cleveland market is slowly but surely making good use of their low powered stations, which have all been very bad when it comes to their offerings and quality.
 
I was channel surfing this evening and noticed there is now subchannel 35.11. It is audio only and some man was reading local news articles. I assume this is a service of the Cleveland Sight Center.
 
skiwest said:
I was channel surfing this evening and noticed there is now subchannel 35.11. It is audio only and some man was reading local news articles. I assume this is a service of the Cleveland Sight Center.
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I just checked and didn't see anything, but I would assume that your TV somehow didn't see the correct PSIP data for WVIZ. WVIZ seems to have a problem where it loses its PSIP data at times, causing devices to see them as being on channel 35, and on my one TV, automatically programming in a second set of channels for WVIZ.
 
So 35.11 must actually be 25.9 which I had hidden. Something must have gotten messed up on my TV when 25 added the new audio subchannels for WKSU and WCLV. It is showing 25.8 as WCLV, but I don't see WKSU. Looks like I will need to re-scan to get it corrected.
 
Not sure if it's my set or a WVIZ issue butttttt........It irritates the crap out of my that I tune in to a program, it might have the program name but when I click on my remote for further info and I get "No further description available". So it might have a program name but I am not familiar with it so with no way of knowing what it's about, I'll just skip to 49 and hope they're showing the same thing and get the "further description" from them. This is across all of WVIZ channels. Also 13.1 thru 7 does the same thing but most of their stuff is crappy or an infomercial so it doesn't really bother me.
 
I personally haven't seen this, but I have an old RCA HDTV from 2006 that will crash sometimes when bringing up the program description. I quickly learned that this happens when the descriptions are longer than what can fit inside the info box, and WVIZ sometimes provides descriptions as long as a book. I believe some tuners have a limitation, and either cut off after so many characters or simply don't display the description at all. I have to give WVIZ some credit with their OTA guide, as it provides almost 24 hours of upcoming programming, where most stations limit it to 12.

And speaking of WVIZ, I don't know what they did, but ever since they've added the FM simulcasts, my DVR has been refreshing them on a daily basis, because it's seeing something changing in the PSIP information. The side effect is that my DVR wipes out any scheduled recordings related to that station, which I have one set to record weekly on WVIZ. This will happen before the scheduled recording as well, leaving my DVR in an on state long after the end of the scheduled recording. Previously this happened every couple of months, and after the repack, has barely happened at all, but on a daily basis? The fault mainly lies in the DVR itself, but the PSIP shouldn't be constantly changing every day. As of now, WVIZ is practically useless when trying to schedule a recording, and it's also affecting other viewers who have the same DVRs as well. (Those made by ZenDesk; eMatic, Homeworx, RCA, Core Innovations, iView, etc.)
 
Also, the other issue I have with WVIZ is more or less related. Most channels I can check and see what's coming up next but try and hit the "advance" feature on my remote and for WVIZ it stays stuck on whatever is currently showing. So if I want to know what's coming up, say, at 9 or 10....forget it....it stays on what I am currently watching. Won't do this on any other station. You'd think that a station that has "begathons" would make sure that every part of it's operation is working correctly. Or maybe it's just that "YOU viewers just didn't give us enough money to make sure everything works right!"
 
Yabadabado1 said:
You'd think that a station that has "begathons" would make sure that every part of it's operation is working correctly. Or maybe it's just that "YOU viewers just didn't give us enough money to make sure everything works right!"
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I've contacted WVIZ in the past on several occasions to address technical problems, but usually get the brushoff. But I agree, they probably won't do anything (unless it's severe enough) unless they expect a donation of some type. Their on air presentation needs to be a bit better, like addressing that audio dropout whenever their onscreen bug appears/disappears, or timing their inserts better for a more seamless transition (World & Create). They finally addressed the 'shaking video' issue on the PBS Kids sub, which I told them about a couple times in the past. I guess engineering eventually caught it within the last month or so as it's no longer there.
 
Wonder if somebody at WVIZ was reading this board. earlier before this post was watching stuff on 25 and, low and behold, checked to see if the "future" stuff would show up and it was working so I knew what was on after the program I was watching.
 
Weigel has just submitted an application to replace W27EA-D's Jampro directional antenna with a Dielectric non-directional antenna. That should help with reception on the east side along the lake. Not sure how much of a difference it will make in other parts of the viewing area, though.

Edit: For some reason, the hyperlink for the application is not working. I can get it to link in the preview, but upon saving, the link gets removed.
 
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