WFLA on FM 105.9

[xmusicmatt]

The interesting part of the Tampa translator is the deal they made with the previous owner in order to acquire it. From Radio Insight "The 250 watt translator is owned by Radio Training Network, whose “JoyFM” will use an HD subchannel of Clear Channel’s 95.7 WBTP to feed some of its translators in the Tampa Bay area."

Never heard a deal like that done by CC I dont think

http://radioinsight.com/blog/headlines/58363/970-wfla-tampa-adds-fm-translator/

Yep, Clear channel has done such deals in other markets with EMF (the KLove, Air1) folks... using EMF unwanted translators to feed HD-2 channels or AM stations.. while EMF gets a HD-2 channel to feed some of its other properties.

 

[drt]

Here is my reception report returning to the Bayboro area of downtown St, Pete from Eastern Hernando, where there was not a trace of WFLA's translator); on I-75 beginning with mile marker 283, I starting hearing some static and interference on 105.9 out of Orlando, by the time I got to the Wesley Chapel WFLA's translator at 105.9 was the dominant signal, although they was some static....... but from Bearss Ave and I-275 south to the West Shore Plaza area, the reception was loud and clear, I did start hearing some static here and there around the WestShore area, but across the Howard Frankliln Bridge and down the 4th St N corrider, the reception was still very listenable until I got to 62nd Ave N, then I did start to hear more static and WTZB would come in for a second or two.

By the time I got to the interection of 4th St. N and 9th Ave N (intersection with downtown's northern most Starbucks and a CVS at the intersection) the top of the hour i.d. heard was WTZB's.

Downtown Publix, in the parking lot and parking space WTZB still won out, even though occassionally I would hear a second or two or WFLA here and there as I was leaving Publix.

Inside WTZB is dominant, but if I rotate the antenna just the right way I can receive WFLA's translator on my Sangean radio. Even though the 105.9 translator's signal is weak in the downtown St. Pete area, it is just strong enough to cause some static that I had not noticed before on WTZB.

As an added bonus at 5:30 this afternoon, I was receiving Orlando's 105.9, Englewood/Venice's 105.9 and WFLA's translator, depending on how I adjusted the telescopic antenna.

drt
st. petersburg

 

[cd637299]

@drt: I don't live in the area, natch; but really---is 105.9 a good frequency to do this?

Isn't there a struggling 100,000-watt CC station there?

cd

 

[jmtillery]

@drt: I don't live in the area, natch; but really---is 105.9 a good frequency to do this?

Isn't there a struggling 100,000-watt CC station there?

cd

The Englewood station - WTZB 105.9 - is a 25kw class C3. The only 100kw stations in Florida that operate on 105.9 are WOCL Deland and WBGG Fort Lauderdale.

 

[cd637299]

@drt: I don't live in the area, natch; but really---is 105.9 a good frequency to do this?

Isn't there a struggling 100,000-watt CC station there?

cd

The Englewood station - WTZB 105.9 - is a 25kw class C3. The only 100kw stations in Florida that operate on 105.9 are WOCL Deland and WBGG Fort Lauderdale.

I didn't know that WTZB was 25k. However, I did not make myself clear....

Isn't there a Clear Channel-owned 100k FM in Tampa that CC can blow up, to clear the way for F-L-A? (Hey I'm a poet and don't know it.)

cd

 

[drt]

@drt: I don't live in the area, natch; but really---is 105.9 a good frequency to do this?

Isn't there a struggling 100,000-watt CC station there?

cd

The Englewood station - WTZB 105.9 - is a 25kw class C3. The only 100kw stations in Florida that operate on 105.9 are WOCL Deland and WBGG Fort Lauderdale.

I didn't know that WTZB was 25k. However, I did not make myself clear....

Isn't there a Clear Channel-owned 100k FM in Tampa that CC can blow up, to clear the way for F-L-A? (Hey I'm a poet and don't know it.)

cd


To the poet of Broward county and/or CD:

You're most likely referring to WXTB 97.9 which has been struggling for it's ratings and format similiar to the Bone, WHPT 102.5, but several weeks ago, the Bone switched to a talk format similiar to Orlando's 104.1 and I'm guessing at this point that CC wants to see how WXTB might improve in the ratings with it's major competitor gone and now airing talk. With the translator in the Palm River sectrion of Tampa at 105.9 and the upcoming translator in west central Pinellas county (Starkey Rd in Seminole), the core metro area will be covered and WFLA 970 will be receivable on the FM band for a good portion of the population in the bay area.

I'm thinking one more 250 translator on the 97.9 stick in Holiday should cover the rest of the core population area. (north Pinellas and s.w. Pasco counties).

WFLA 970 has also been on WXTB's HD2 for some time now as well, so for the few people that have HD radios, WFLA has been on the FM band and receivabale in a good portion of Pinellas, Pasco and n.w. Hillsborough county.

drt,
st. petersburg

 

[badjef]

There are 2 reasons that 'FLA is using translators:
1.) They are not ready to mess with 98Rock, yet, especially with 102.5 out of the Rock picture for now.
2.) HD has been a dismal failure for Over The Air reception of AM, FM, and TV. (970 doesn't ID the AM-HD, anymore and hasn't for awhile, now)

The translators were an attempt to pick up younger listeners who do not listen to AM. A push of the button and you have the other translator. It effectively gives WFLA, not one, but TWO buttons on the radio.

If may not be over since neither translator addresses the Northern Coverage they want or the Southern Hillsbough forgotten listeners.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[flwfg]

Well, 970 just announced on FB that you can now hear them on 105.9....

 

[badjef]

Well, 970 just announced on FB that you can now hear them on 105.9....

Nothing like being late to the party.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[Parttimer]

No, ESPN is owned by Disney. Disney made a deal with Emmis to lease the frequency long term. There was no sale involved. I refer you to the New York Board. The deal is explained very well there.


If Emmis sold 98.7, they would not be the Licensee, Disney would be.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

Which still doesn't answer the question, what does that have to do with CC and Joy-FM?

 

[badjef]

No, ESPN is owned by Disney. Disney made a deal with Emmis to lease the frequency long term. There was no sale involved. I refer you to the New York Board. The deal is explained very well there.


If Emmis sold 98.7, they would not be the Licensee, Disney would be.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

Which still doesn't answer the question, what does that have to do with CC and Joy-FM?

I was trying to clear up a misunderstanding with regard to the new relationship formed between Emmis and Disney.

Back to your question (and his): it is clear, that the business model of radio is changing. Instead of being broadcast and content providers, the companies are looking into becoming leasing agents. Which means, they retain the ownership of the frequency and transmitter, but the content is provided by whoever leases the frequency, as in the case of 98.7 in NYC.

Joy-FM has translators all over West and Central/Center Florida. They can't go any higher with the antenna 88.1 in Venice because of spacing requirements with 88.5 WMNF.

91.5, in New Port Richey clearly does not reach Temple Terrace, by FCC standards. But they may need an HD-x for FCC compliance. "Full market signal" 95.7HD-2 will fit the bill. 97.9HD-2 fills the compliance for the use of the translators for WFLA.

Here's the kicker: if something happens to the HD signal, they have to shut down the dependent translators.

There are different rules with regard to commercial and non-commercial operations. And there is cross-pollination into the commercial band with the non-comm signal originating below 92.1, as in the case with 88.1.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[TerryKay]

They are still using HD2 ID's, sometimes anyway, and even 105.9 ID's with the translator calls (also sometimes). Noted the latter at 1:58 pm today coming out of Rush Lithium, followed by the "generic" 105.9" co-ID, then the 97.9 HD2 ID.

 

[badjef]

They are still using HD2 ID's, sometimes anyway, and even 105.9 ID's with the translator calls (also sometimes). Noted the latter at 1:58 pm today coming out of Rush Lithium, followed by the "generic" 105.9" co-ID, then the 97.9 HD2 ID.

They aren't, and haven't for awhile, IDing the AM-HD. It is pretty much being ignored.

I can assume they stopped IDing when they started turning the HD off during nighttime operation.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[Parttimer]

: it is clear, that the business model of radio is changing. Instead of being broadcast and content providers, the companies are looking into becoming leasing agents. Which means, they retain the ownership of the frequency and transmitter, but the content is provided by whoever leases the frequency, as in the case of 98.7 in NYC.

If you're upside down on your mortgage and can't sell your house, you rent it out.

Now I get your point....

 

[badjef]

: it is clear, that the business model of radio is changing. Instead of being broadcast and content providers, the companies are looking into becoming leasing agents. Which means, they retain the ownership of the frequency and transmitter, but the content is provided by whoever leases the frequency, as in the case of 98.7 in NYC.

If you're upside down on your mortgage and can't sell your house, you rent it out.

Now I get your point....

Not only that, but you get the sales price of the station and keep it, too!

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[Studio20]

Great, just great.

Now on the way to work and home to Pasco on SR39 instead of hearing Orlando's 105.9 (The CBS owned station that has better jox and better music than Q105, )I"m getting the same swill of 970 that roars in on AM .


Rush on 540, 970 and 1430 Lakeland...as well as 99.9 Brooksville and now 105.9.

Serving the public interest as a Public Trustee.

Seriously?

If I were in my car more than one hour a day, I'd tear out the radio and ....and.....install.....sate..sata....I dreaded it so much, I can't even spell it...I'd subscribe to SiriusXM

 

[dwtpa97]

Which is why I carry CDs in my car. Seldom listen to radio anymore.

 

[badjef]

The 105.9 will be strong enough to listen to the game inside the Tampa Bay Times Forum for Lightning games.

Interesting inasmuch as I believe the antenna is the new location for CBS's Q-stations.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[NewsStud]

Now on the way to work and home to Pasco on SR39 instead of hearing Orlando's 105.9 (The CBS owned station that has better jox and better music than Q105, )I"m getting the same swill of 970 that roars in on AM .

If you want to listen to an Orlando market station while driving in the Tampa Bay area... you can download CBS's Radio.Com app. It has the feed from WOCL in crystal clear digital. If you car has an auxiliary audio jack or even a built-in Bluetooth, you can have this audio from your device play through your car's stereo system.

I would argue that even the little bit of local news that WFLA still does still serves it's community better than yet-another replay of "Tears Of A Clown" from a station meant to serve a sleepy burb in Volusia County.

 

[Studio20]

Sorry but I'm betting the playlist from 105.9 surpasses Q105..and the jox don't come across as as forced as Q's..

Must be some truth to this because CBS Tampa is already implementing the voiceover guy from 105.9

I'm not saying theyre perfect, but they just sound better and more natural than the Q.