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WGSR files for channel 47 DTV

Because I haven't learned that part of the system yet. I've been promised a tutorial, but if it doesn't happen soon I might have to experiment on my own.

You'll probably see schedule information being transmitted sooner or . . . .

Later . . . .
 
i have nothing on 47 here in southern greensboro, rescanned several times and nothing....I have a very strong signal on WGPX and if im correct yall share a tower right?
 
Yep. Our STL system failed, and the engineer who designed it is out of town. We were down a day, and installed equipment at the transmitter to get our signal back on. Downside is that video quality is not what it was.

Bear with us...we're learning this stuff.

Later . . . .
 
I was up on Poor Mountain on Tuesday seeing what I could lock and I had your channel 47 signal with nothing but null packets. I figured something was up.

- Trip
 
tripinva said:
I was up on Poor Mountain on Tuesday seeing what I could lock and I had your channel 47 signal with nothing but null packets. I figured something was up.

- Trip


Trip, I just put a new Sanyo 46" LCD in on Time Warner Cable and ran the scan and came up with 8 Dig HD Channels and I don't even have Dig programming..What's up with that? or Matt, someone answer?
 
BIG APE said:
tripinva said:
I was up on Poor Mountain on Tuesday seeing what I could lock and I had your channel 47 signal with nothing but null packets. I figured something was up.

- Trip


Trip, I just put a new Sanyo 46" LCD in on Time Warner Cable and ran the scan and came up with 8 Dig HD Channels and I don't even have Dig programming..What's up with that? or Matt, someone answer?
I think Time Warner as many other cable folk carry the original signals for this purpose. Only the 'cable only' high def channels are the ones you pay more for. Come to think of it on TW they dont charge extra for high def anyway. Only extra if you get the fancy DVR cable box.
 
I know Matt Smith is hoping to get WGSR's digital signal straight, because at some point they will try to get a deal with Time Warner Cable
to get added to their channel lineup in Burlington, Greensboro, and other places in the Triad, and after looking at their coverage map, i
hope this will happen.
 
EncSpy said:
i have nothing on 47 here in southern greensboro, rescanned several times and nothing....I have a very strong signal on WGPX and if im correct yall share a tower right?
I don't get WGPX. I never did on anlog except during ceretain weather conditions.
 
rf_chaser said:
Matt,

Your time on the digital station is about 20 minutes slow.

I just checked it tonight, and it's on the proper time. Let me know if you see it off again.

Later . . . .
 
JimA said:
Ever get on DishTV?

They haven't answered my e-mails, and their customer service people either can't or won't give me the name of a contact with whom I can discuss this. I haven't given up trying, but they're purposely making it difficult for me to contact them.

Later . . . .
 
tothedj said:
I know Matt Smith is hoping to get WGSR's digital signal straight, because at some point they will try to get a deal with Time Warner Cable
to get added to their channel lineup in Burlington, Greensboro, and other places in the Triad, and after looking at their coverage map, i
hope this will happen.

Thanks for the encouragement. We have another engineer coming to look at the situation today. At the very least, we should be able to improve the signal coming into the tower site, which will improve our look on the air. Right now, we're VERY retro-looking (you KNOW I'm joking)!

One minor improvement today, we got our web stream back on the T-1 line. I had to convince an MCSE certified system engineer that you could stream up a T-1 line without affecting the quality of a video stream that you are receiving. He left scratching his head, and you can now see us on the web again.

[url]http://www.wgsr47.tv [/url]

And getting this back in its proper place means I can put the Reidsville tower cam back online . . .

[url]http://www.reidsvilletowercam.info [/url]

[url]http://www.ustream.tv [/url] has a wonderful service, and I'll give them a shameless plug.

Later . . . .
 
Matt Smith said:
rf_chaser said:
Matt,

Your time on the digital station is about 20 minutes slow.

I just checked it tonight, and it's on the proper time. Let me know if you see it off again.

Later . . . .

I just checked 2, 8 12 and 45 and their program guide clocks were all on time. WGSR's program guide clock is 18 minutes slow compared to the 4 other stations.
 
Hmmm . . . I'm not sure what you're seeing that I'm not. Since I don't have a program guide on the station, I'm not sure how to see a clock. My Eye-TV receiver derives its timing from the computer clock, so all the stations display the same time.

I'll have to check it on another receiver.

Later . . . .
 
I have a LG converter and when you ask for info on the station, it lists the call sign, channel number, program name, time and that is where the differences are seen.
 
Matt Smith said:
Hmmm . . . I'm not sure what you're seeing that I'm not. Since I don't have a program guide on the station, I'm not sure how to see a clock. My Eye-TV receiver derives its timing from the computer clock, so all the stations display the same time.

I'll have to check it on another receiver.

Later . . . .

http://www.tsreader.com/tsreader/index.html
TSReader (the free "lite" version will do; you'll also need a computer DTV tuner, the Hauppauge HVR950 will work; and a decent PC) will show what's going on with your DTV signal. Not sure if I know of a good reliable way to check with a consumer receiver; different receivers seem to get their time from different places. I guess getting your hands on a LG box like rf_chaser's would do the trick!

I'm betting your System Time Table (STT) is off. Do you have a separate PC providing the PSIP tables? (or are you transmitting static PSIP loaded into the multiplexer?)

If you have a separate PC, you probably want to ensure Internet Time is working. If you're running static PSIP, check the clock on the stream multiplexer.

And please forgive me if you've already done all of this!
 
I just downloaded the TSReader and installed it on on my tuner card and the STT time is 18 minutes behind. Man, that is a slick program. Wished I had known about this sooner.

Thanks w9wi.
 
WGSR now has something more to show than analog static. We have the signal back up, thanks to some conventional computer technology.

Turns out that the link between studio and transmitter has been up and running the entire time since we installed it. All of the failures that have happened in our system have been in encoder, mux and the gear that connects them to the link, either on the studio or the transmitter end (and at least once, BOTH).

What got our system working again was Windows streaming technology. We're running a server with a very fast processor at the studio end streaming the video down the link to the transmitter. On that end, another computer with a very fast processor is decoding the stream, and a converter box changes the video from VGA to NTSC to feed the encoder.

All that remains is a little fine tuning of the NTSC analog video and an audio amp to bring up the sound to a reasonable level. I anticipate that the computers will require more maintenance than "hard-wired" boxes, but we're hoping that this system will perform with a reasonable amount of reliability until we find a supplier with equipment that more closely meets our needs for price and stability.

We have returned our digital signal to viewable quality with our own in-house efforts and not those of professional engineers. Turns out that we have some great talent at WGSR that, as this situation has turned desperate, have banded together to solve problems that we have been waiting on professionals to fix for more than six weeks.

I'm not sure what is going to happen now with some $30,000 of digital broadcast equipment now sitting useless and idle in our studio and transmitter racks. Heartland video, who we bought our gear from, has been a bear to deal with in both helping us solve issues and replacing equipment identified as not up to the needs of our situation by the engineers we hired to put it in. On more than one instance, Heartland told us their equipment was working and blamed the link transmission system, which has proven to be solid and reliable. They definitely should not use us as a reference.

We're looking at alternative encoders, and the multiplexer equipment to let us add at least one subchannel, which will probably go live early in 2010. Plus, some of you may be aware that Star News Corporation has purchased W18BG in Danville. Build-out of its digital signal on Ch. 23 will begin this fall. We're taking all of the bad experiences we've had going digital with WGSR, and promised ourselves that they will not be repeated with W18BG.

Give us a look, and if you see anything in our signal we can improve, let's discuss it here.

Later . . . .
 
Congratulations.

See my "Goodbye, Roy's Folks" thread and the link that is there for my experience with having problems no one will accept the blame for.

Can you get WCWG 's problems solved too?

By the way, I haven't pulled out that Earl Burton tape. I need to visit my neighbor to see if they can figure out how to copy it without my having to buy a bunch of new stuff.
 
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