Im sure by Now the Metro Louisville office has been shuttered and the Louisville reports have been shufffled off to most Likely Atlanta Hub of Metro. Since Indy, St Louis have been farmed to Chicago. Cincinnati, Columbus, Dayton and Cleveland have been shifted to Detroit. Metro has been shutting down a majority of their local offices into 13 hub markets since the beginning of the year or late last year. I think most likely Nashville and Louisville went to Atlanta if that was the hub for the for Kentucky and Tennessee Metro offices.
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WHAS is pityful.
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IUSradiofan said:
That can't happen. Seriously. That's what I meant by my earlier comment. Who has a big signal that could do it?
WVEZ? Cox isn't going to blow that up to go news talk.
WDJX? Mainline isn't going to blow that up to go news talk.
We're talking about the gravy train stations for both of those clusters. It would literally cost them millions of dollars to do it when you count lost advertising revenue and the non-stop promotion necessary to change public awareness. And in the end, from what I heard, WHAS doesn't really make all that much profit, so you'd never get your investment back.
And there aren't any other stations in Louisville with the signal to do it except those owned by Clear Channel. (The possible exception might be 970, but there's a big question about return on investment there as well.)
microbob said:
Of course Cox did tease about "News/Talk 103RKA" prior to country. Imagine the possibilities.
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Of course Cox did tease about "News/Talk 103RKA" prior to country. Imagine the possibilities.
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I did listen to that tease - it was posted on YouTube. I didn't know if it was real at first or something that someone made up a posted on there. I wonder what the reaction was @ WHAS if, and you know they were, listening.
WHAS probably called a staff meeting so they could listen to it all together. It's not too unreasonable to think they can get all 8 employees in one room, is it?
Of course Cox did tease about "News/Talk 103RKA" prior to country. Imagine the possibilities.
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I did listen to that tease - it was posted on YouTube. I didn't know if it was real at first or something that someone made up a posted on there. I wonder what the reaction was @ WHAS if, and you know they were, listening.
WHAS probably called a staff meeting so they could listen to it all together. It's not too unreasonable to think they can get all 8 employees in one room, is it?
Of course Cox did tease about "News/Talk 103RKA" prior to country. Imagine the possibilities.
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I did listen to that tease - it was posted on YouTube. I didn't know if it was real at first or something that someone made up a posted on there. I wonder what the reaction was @ WHAS if, and you know they were, listening.
WHAS probably called a staff meeting so they could listen to it all together. It's not too unreasonable to think they can get all 8 employees in one room, is it?
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Between WAMZ and WHAS, the latter is more vulnerable. The start up cost is greater than country but in the long run Cox could have destroyed WHAS. Cox knows News/Talk and the product would have been light years ahead of the feeble attempt of 105.1.
Country has pulled numbers from WAMZ in this chess game called radio and it is bottom line friendly. But News/Talk on 103 had the potential of pulling the remaining listeners from the AM band.
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I did listen to that tease - it was posted on YouTube. I didn't know if it was real at first or something that someone made up a posted on there. I wonder what the reaction was @ WHAS if, and you know they were, listening.
WHAS probably called a staff meeting so they could listen to it all together. It's not too unreasonable to think they can get all 8 employees in one room, is it?
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Between WAMZ and WHAS, the latter is more vulnerable. The start up cost is greater than country but in the long run Cox could have destroyed WHAS. Cox knows News/Talk and the product would have been light years ahead of the feeble attempt of 105.1.
Country has pulled numbers from WAMZ in this chess game called radio and it is bottom line friendly. But News/Talk on 103 had the potential of pulling the remaining listeners from the AM band.
greg.hahn said:
You know, you really wouldn't have to totally blow up the format. What's the harm in putting a newscast at the top of the hour the way radio stations USED to do? The consultants like to say that it would mess up the format and that people who listen to those formats don't want news inturrupting the music. Really? Then explain the explosion of information we currently have from all sources EXCEPT RADIO!
WHAS is a joke! During overnight and on the weekends it is all automated and repeat programming. Forget any severe weather and or important news coverage. Why this station is a joke and WLW out of Cincinnati remains mostly local with all local LIVE news around the clock is beyond me. I have not listened to WHAS for several years now and will not do so any time soon. Oustide of WAKY 103.5FM Louisville radio in general sucks wind. The demise of WHAS started when they moved Pig Limbaugh to noon and then all the good local talent started to depart (Wayne Perkey, Jack Fox, Doug McKelvin, Van Vance, Milton Metz and of course Joe Donovan). I used to listen to WHAS for several hours a day but no longer. It is pretty sad when I rely on 700 WLW for breaking news and weather coverage and they are in Cincinnati, Ohio.
Another thing that cracks me up about the EAS is that on WKQC 1450AM (with about a 500w signal when two of the three hamsters go home) is that when the EAS comes on you country music playing in the background during the entire EAS alert. Then we get warnings for Dubois county which is a good 70 miles west of Louisville. Like people there can hear this p**s ant station when I can barely get them once I cross into Louisville. You are right though in that WHAS closes up shop and relies on automation from 7pm Friday to 5am Monday. Sad.
Another thing that cracks me up about the EAS is that on WKQC 1450AM (with about a 500w signal when two of the three hamsters go home) is that when the EAS comes on you country music playing in the background during the entire EAS alert. Then we get warnings for Dubois county which is a good 70 miles west of Louisville. Like people there can hear this p**s ant station when I can barely get them once I cross into Louisville. You are right though in that WHAS closes up shop and relies on automation from 7pm Friday to 5am Monday. Sad.
Where is the country music coming from on 1450? Isn't there just one other station in the building and it plays Classic Hits?
storrs19 said:
WHAS was a dynamic radio station. The general elements were the same (information and entertainment) but the presentation (jingles and other imaging) always changed. The station has been stagnant for almost fifteen years. You can argue consistency but that eventually translates to boring. WHAS used to inspire and set the standard. These days it is soulless programming kiosk.
Nothing personal against their current long time program director, but he is riding the heritage created by those who transformed the Cuddly Giant into a monster.
radiorob2.0 said:
I dont' understand why WHAS is always run on the cheap. I was amazed at the differences in WHAS and WLW, just up the road. WLW has local talent that is entertaining and funny. WHAS has Terry Meiners who should have been gone 15 years ago. WLW is actually doing news and covering events in Cincinnati 24/7. WHAS closes up the news room at 9pm weeknights....weekends it's non existent. WHAS can't figure out if it's going to be University of Kentucky station or a University of Louisville station. To me it typifies what's wrong with broadcasters. With so many other avenues of information and entertainment, WHAS seems to be doing a half assed attempt at serving the need for it. Eventually, people just leave for other more reliable sources.
Exactly. Just listen to 700 WLW for a 24 hour period other than the overnight Trucking Show from midnight to 5:00am they are all local and live 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Their news broadcasts are all LIVE 24-7 even on holidays which is very handy. I listen to them often although I miss Gary Burbank a lot in the afternoon. They usually report when bad weather is heading for the tri-state and include Louisville often if something rotten is heading our way. I think they know that they get a lot of listeners from Louisville. I really miss them being on XM 173 which Cheap Channel dropped in favor of simulcasting XM 165. So far CC has done nothing with XM 173. By the by for those who don't know Cheap Channel owns the bandwidth of XM 158, 165 and 173 as well as a few of the music channels that have commercials.
I'd be curious to know what Judge Bingham and Barry Sr would think if they could see the current state of his once proud radio station and newspaper.
storrs19 said:
WLW has two advantages. First, WLW was Randy Michaels' baby, that help it remain live and local when the rest of the radio universe syndicated. Also, revenue. I haven't seen numbers in almost 15 years but WLW was a cash machine. They out-billed everyone else in the market by two times and beyond. The amount, I want to say about $20 mill, was respectable for a major market station. The bean counters will have no problem with a fully staffed station as long as there is a profit. I believe their sister station WEBN has the same advantage.
radiorob2.0 said:
As far as revenue, I had heard that it was WHAS and WAMZ driving this cluster with about $20-25 mil between them. That being said, you think they could have afforded better talent on 840 than what they got. I loved Burbank, too and would regularly listen to him in the afternoons.
Revenue at all radio stations is down...way down. Management doesn't care about profit margins anymore. Even stations producing 40 to 50% profit margins are under the gun to produce the same dollars they produced a few years ago during boom times. If management can't produce the dollars for debt service it triggers penalties. That just makes it worse. Owners across the US agreed to terms like these. The product is paying a terrible price right now but ownership will be paying the ultimate price if things don't get better FAST. If you have a source for capital, get ready for the fire sales. Then you can put your money where your mouth is.
marconi jr said:
That's what happens when you leverage your ass off just to buy up all the good signals. I sympathize with the employees that have to deal with this crap and are constantly having to make chicken salad out of chicken $h*t. However, the guys at the top who's responsible for this mess are getting what they deserve.
Of course Cox did tease about "News/Talk 103RKA" prior to country. Imagine the possibilities.
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I did listen to that tease - it was posted on YouTube. I didn't know if it was real at first or something that someone made up a posted on there. I wonder what the reaction was @ WHAS if, and you know they were, listening.
WHAS probably called a staff meeting so they could listen to it all together. It's not too unreasonable to think they can get all 8 employees in one room, is it?
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And now we take you to a recent WHAS staff meeting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gwFXqAMe3Q&feature=related
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I did listen to that tease - it was posted on YouTube. I didn't know if it was real at first or something that someone made up a posted on there. I wonder what the reaction was @ WHAS if, and you know they were, listening.
WHAS probably called a staff meeting so they could listen to it all together. It's not too unreasonable to think they can get all 8 employees in one room, is it?
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And now we take you to a recent WHAS staff meeting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gwFXqAMe3Q&feature=related
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