"What Are We Doing to Ourselves, Exactly?"

[mimo]

FM has always had alot of background noise when the signal is weaker. The white noise on FM is louder than on AM (if there is nothing causing interference). It's the nature of the beast. This whole argument to me makes me wonder if people weren't saying the same thing about FM stereo. Everyone know's it has more static than the mono signal when the station is weaker. I've learned to put up with the noise and it's really only noticable when there is no sound or the dj is talking. During music you just don't really hear it, with the exception of certain genres. I listened to the audio clips, and yes I did notice something, but in the neighbourho0d I live in...noise like that is the norm on most radios. I have 9 local fm stations that sound like that...compeletely inaudible on most radios. We don't have IBOC here in Canada, and from what I've heard, it really wouldn't increase the noise at all...not on FM. The noise comes from living a few blocks away from 5 local FM transmitters. I either stopped trying to hear those stations until I was further away from all the bleedover or just used a better radio. I don't like what I'm hearing from AM IBOC. But the FM seems to be an improvement. Anything that can fix multipath on FM IS an improvement in my opinion. Many people note that IBOC has done that for them. That may be why the CRTC is considering it for FM. This would be the perfect place to see once and for all what happens....Canada is the land of 3RD adjacent fm radio. Every station is pretty much a 3rd adjacent to someone local here.

 

[Chuck]

Every station is pretty much a 3rd adjacent to someone local here.

I very much doubt that a third adjacent would be a problem at all. The problems happen because, in the US, we have second, and occasionally first adjacent problems. In a perfect world things wouldn't need to be spaced very close together, but that isn't the scenario we have to work with

 

[mimo]

Very true. When I lived in Iowa, it wasn't unusual to hear first adjacents that weren't that far away from each other. With the higher population that you have, there's obviously a desire and need to cram as many stations on the dial as possible. Not always the brightest move as we've seen in the northeast.

I've heard that some people are concerned about potential interference between 3rd adjacents, and that may be a problem with implementing the system here. For now, the CRTC is still concerned about interference. I wish the FCC would go back to that.

 

[KB1OKL]

I listened to the audio clips, and yes I did notice something, but in the neighbourho0d I live in...noise like that is the norm on most radios.

When the IBOC was switched on in both of those two clips the two stations became completely inaudible, Did you listen to the whole clip in each case? When the ol' IBOC switch is flipped the station disappears and all you can hear is hash.

 

[Tom Wells]

I listened to the audio clips, and yes I did notice something, but in the neighbourho0d I live in...noise like that is the norm on most radios.

When the IBOC was switched on in both of those two clips the two stations became completely inaudible, Did you listen to the whole clip in each case? When the ol' IBOC switch is flipped the station disappears and all you can hear is hash.

Mercy gracious. Just as described in the ibiquity white papers so many years ago.
Poor summary in those papers, from a listener's perspective..
Remember, >your< market stations own you, if are are in the right demo.
Listen to us here at home or else.

 

[mimo]

I listened to the audio clips, and yes I did notice something, but in the neighbourho0d I live in...noise like that is the norm on most radios.

When the IBOC was switched on in both of those two clips the two stations became completely inaudible, Did you listen to the whole clip in each case? When the ol' IBOC switch is flipped the station disappears and all you can hear is hash.

Yes, I did. The audio disappeared when it went on in both files. In the second one I could barely even detect a station. As I stated, noise like that is the norm in my neighbourho0d on LOCAL stations., and we don't even have Iboc in Canada. I just live to0 close to the downtown transmitters.

 

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