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UnknnownDJ
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I have always wanted to know who is the care-taker of the KQUE-FM music library?
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purpledevil
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A complete assumption on my part, but wouldn't iHurt Radio still have possession of the KQ library? I believe it was used for "Unforgettable" when the Standards format moved from 1230 to 790.
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mrtejano
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Why do people always talk bad about I heart radio? I happen to enjoy it, sounds way better than Pandora, Spotify, and that Univision Uphoria app.
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purpledevil
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You mean besides the fact that they led the charge in overpaying for one time family owned and operated stations, homogenizing every musical genre ever known to man, eliminating most of the talented people that worked in these stations and were the very reason that people turned a radio on for only to replace them with a canned voice being beamed in from New York, currently running their company so far in the red that they can never hope to actually show profitability in our lifetime or our children's, and laying out the blueprint for other media conglomerates to follow in their soulless footsteps?
Ah, but you're speaking of the phone app, and yes the app is great. Much preferable to TuneIn, Pandora, and the like. Carry on....
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mrtejano
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Well I don't work in the Radio industry, so I just sit down and enjoy the show. Disregard my previous question.
What radio station would still use a "music library." If it hasn't been digitized and placed on a corporate server, no tune is ever likely to get aired today. Few stations (except those that air mixes) even have turntables anymore.
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UnknnownDJ
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The only "canned/automated music" format was Beautiful Music!
The only "canned/automated music" format was Beautiful Music created by Jim Schulke.
Schulke's Beautiful Music format would still work today amid all the "air pollution" out there.
Beautiful would work due to the extended "tune-out" factor out there. Additionally, the AM
stations "out there" are sounding muddy as if the engineers don't care about quality of sound
anymore. By the way, who has the complete reels and reels of Schulke Beautiful Music?
The only "canned/automated music" format was Beautiful Music created by Jim Schulke.
Schulke's Beautiful Music format would still work today amid all the "air pollution" out there.
Beautiful would work due to the extended "tune-out" factor out there. Additionally, the AM
stations "out there" are sounding muddy as if the engineers don't care about quality of sound
anymore. By the way, who has the complete reels and reels of Schulke Beautiful Music?
The same people who have all the Drake-Chenault reels for their automated formats.
"Beautiful Music" was not created by Jim Schulke, although he certainly was one of the best programmers of the genre. "Beautiful Music" had existed from the early 60's when many AMs such as Gordon McLendon´s KABL did the format. People like Pete Taylor at the Kaiser stations (KFOG and WJIB) and Marlin Taylor at Jerry Lee's Philly station perfected the format in the late 60's when the FCC's simulcast prohibition made many FMs seek out easy to run programming.
SRP, Shulke's company, was just one of the Beautiful Music syndicators who provided music reels in the 70's and 80's for stations to run with live announcers or totally automated.
Other Beautiful Music syndicators included Bonneville, KalaMusic, Churchill, RPM, Peters, IGM, TM, Música en Flor, Drake Chennault and the FM 100 Plan.
Many of the syndicators also had other formats, ranging from soft rock to Top 40 to country.
Phil Stout was the programmer for Stereo Radio Productions, not Jim Schulke. Beautiful Music was an evolution of the Good Music format, originated by Lee Segall, formerly of Houston, on KIXL-am/fm, Dallas in 1947. Good Music stations included light classical, semi-classical and even full length classical selections but that had been eliminated for the most part by the late 50s. Gordon McLendon took his inspiration for KABL (May, 1959) from KIXL. KCOH was originally a clone of KIXL (Segall had owned the license before relocating to Dallas but never put it on the air) and KXYZ-AM-FM Houston in the early 60s was a clone of KABL.
What WDVR gets credit for, I think, is matched-flow beautiful music programming.
Interesting aside: when ABC bought KXYZ in 1968, they brought in Paul Mitchell from Philadelphia to program the am/fm combo with beautiful music. Mitchell told me, and I'm sure many others, that he created matched flow and both Phil Stout and Marlin Taylor stole the idea from him at DVR. He ran live, jocked matched flow BM with the jocks picking the music according to flow charts, although eventually he had his music director program the whole day and all the jocks had to do was follow the music log. KXYZ did very well against upstart KYND (SRP) with its blanket of billboards and barrage of TV ads selling just one thing - the calls - until KXYZ-FM was flipped to Love FM and then KAUM.
I have no idea if there was any truth in Mitchell's claim but KXYZ was a great sounding station both in the early sixties and late sixties.
What WDVR gets credit for, I think, is matched-flow beautiful music programming.
Interesting aside: when ABC bought KXYZ in 1968, they brought in Paul Mitchell from Philadelphia to program the am/fm combo with beautiful music. Mitchell told me, and I'm sure many others, that he created matched flow and both Phil Stout and Marlin Taylor stole the idea from him at DVR. He ran live, jocked matched flow BM with the jocks picking the music according to flow charts, although eventually he had his music director program the whole day and all the jocks had to do was follow the music log. KXYZ did very well against upstart KYND (SRP) with its blanket of billboards and barrage of TV ads selling just one thing - the calls - until KXYZ-FM was flipped to Love FM and then KAUM.
I have no idea if there was any truth in Mitchell's claim but KXYZ was a great sounding station both in the early sixties and late sixties.
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UnknnownDJ
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770 KAAM, Dallas/Fort Worth still has the “beautiful music” format.
The only radio station broadcasting “beautiful music” in our
Neighborhood is Legends 770 KAAM in Dallas/Fort Worth. Too bad
KAAM (10,000 watt daytime hours) fades north of the Houston/Galveston area.
So, Bravo to AM-770, KAAM for keeping the basics of the “beautiful
Music” format alive!
The only radio station broadcasting “beautiful music” in our
Neighborhood is Legends 770 KAAM in Dallas/Fort Worth. Too bad
KAAM (10,000 watt daytime hours) fades north of the Houston/Galveston area.
So, Bravo to AM-770, KAAM for keeping the basics of the “beautiful
Music” format alive!
KAAM is what is commonly described as "Adult Standards". Sinatra and friends.
It is definitely not not "Beautiful Music" which is Paul Mauriat and friends.
There is almost no crossover between the two formats. The only commonality is that both formats are nearly dead in the US.
McLendon can be credited for making "good music" more contemporary both in music selection and in presentation. WDVR probably has more to do with transitioning the format from instrumental renditions of "Stardust" and Enoch Light tunes to the Percy Faith / Mantovanni / Muriat era of covers of more contemporary songs with more modern orchestrations that sounded less big band and more like the current pop music.
I think this falls under the "success has many parents" category.
I think that many of us were using some form of flow control by the mid-60's. The first Beautiful Music station I programmed used color dot coding to indicate "texture" and there were certain textures that could not segue and others that could, creating good transitions and variety. That was in 1966. We used Crayons to mark the cuts on albums, employing the same shades as the color-to-number code on resistors. You could flow from red to orange or yellow, but not to green or blue or purple. But Yellow could flow to Orange or Red or to Green and Blue. We also had tempo codes of 1, 2 and 3 and had different tempo matches and sequences in different dayparts. Because I was programming, selling and managing multiple stations, I could not do a daily playlist and I created my flow control to insure that the station sounded consistent, balance and had good texture and mood.
When I got to WEZR in 1969, they had a card system that allowed the air staff to select appropriate combinations. The system was different, but also worked well.
One of the better histories of Beautiful Music is at http://www.percyfaithpages.org/A Brief History of Beautiful Music Radio.pdf
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FortBend
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IIRC they donated all the phonograph records to Pacifica KPFT
The majority of the records are unusable. The program director back in the 1960s, took a razor blade to the cuts which they did not want on the air.
That's just crazy! Why didn't the PD just black out the song titles that he didn't want on the air?
An Announcer plays one of the "do not play" cuts ... good-bye.
I worked at a station where the PD put stick-on paper labels on the cuts that he didn't want played. Equally foolish.
An Announcer plays one of the "do not play" cuts ... good-bye.
I worked at a station where the PD put stick-on paper labels on the cuts that he didn't want played. Equally foolish.
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Unknowable
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Why don't they just give away the records they don't want on the air? Sounds smarter than destroying them.
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UknnownDJ
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The mystery of the Kirwood Derby of KQUE-FM Music?
A mentor of mine told me that a quality perfectionist in Houston
personally carted-up the singles and (some) album cuts whereby K-QUE
played on-the-air. Additionally, my mentor (who didn’t want to be named) asked
me if I would like a digital copy of his music archives consisting of doo-wop,
traditional country, pop and music out of print. Naturally, I said of course!
As I understand it, those carts with KQUE-FM music is in storage ?somewhere?
In Houston?.....?Or so I am told?
A mentor of mine told me that a quality perfectionist in Houston
personally carted-up the singles and (some) album cuts whereby K-QUE
played on-the-air. Additionally, my mentor (who didn’t want to be named) asked
me if I would like a digital copy of his music archives consisting of doo-wop,
traditional country, pop and music out of print. Naturally, I said of course!
As I understand it, those carts with KQUE-FM music is in storage ?somewhere?
In Houston?.....?Or so I am told?
Well, if they are on cart and in storage somewhere, anywhere, they are probably not usable. The pressure pads deteriorate after a few years, which make them unplayable. Chances are, these carts have been shuffled back and forth between storage facilities in uneven temperatures which is not good for the tape. Let's say they stayed in one place, how do we know if constant temperature or humidity settings have been maintained. As time passes, there will be fewer and fewer cart machines around to play 'em. They are obsolete. It has been almost 20 years since the demise of KQUE. They had a good run on the air with a lot of great memories. I'm glad I was a part of it.
1600 KOGT in Orange has plenty of cart machines...they play records only...no CDs iirc...and do not have any PCs in the control room or prod for music or spots..all done on carts and tape!! (REALLY: I have offered some ideas...but the owner is happy with what he has)...
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