WHAT HAPPENED TO PULSE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[d21ofnj]

Okay, let's break it down here...

If Pulse 87 goes down for good at the end of this week, we will fight for another dance station. New York lost 3 dance stations in the past, a new station always popped up later. It would be a good opportunity for an underperforming station (Now, RXP, even WBAI) to flip to dance and get an instant million in cume. A station like KTU won't flip to dance because it's successful in rhythmic AC. But a station like WRXP could be performing much better with a dance format than its current format, it's not doing too much better than Pulse despite launching at the same time as Pulse and a full market signal, and it has alternative rock to itself. If we can't get a new dance station on a full signal above 92, we'll settle for another dance station on 87.7. If not, there's HD-2 and pushing dance music to CHR stations that will open up to it like Now 92.3. Even if we don't get any radio presence, you can find an Internet stream of any dance subgenre you like. It isn't like the old days before Internet streaming where you would depend on radio for new music.

Granted, NYC lost an historic KTU and tweaked the current KTU, but the biggest lost so far was Hot 97 flipping to hip-hop.  Could this be a possibility we lose the 4th dance station?  As far as NOW, RXP, or even WBAI, doubt it.  92.3 is still targeting Z100 although they did add a few dance tracks and are dance/rhythmic leaning, but they are not dropping the CHR format.  WRXP, a trainwreck since it's debut, but being the only active rock station outlet in the market is what true rock fans have left, unless Q104 decides to go modern rock.  WBAI may be a good candidate, but there are more listeners than this station.......WFME.  A powerful signal which transmits from Newark covers basically what all other NYC stations cover, if not a little bit more out.  You want to know the cume WFME has?   40,000!  That's it!  Within the entire NYC area, this frequency is being completely wasted.  I think there should be a change around the dial more often.  Now, WQXR recently moved to 105.9, and WNYC now owns them.  Since there are a decent amount of complaints about 105.9, why can't WNYC just place WQXR on 93.9 and have WNYC on HD-2 since they are also on 820 AM, have WFME move to 105.9, and well, you know what can go on 94.7  ;D

Anyway, this is WFME's coverage

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM1184871.html

 

[nd2023]

If Pulse 87 goes down for good at the end of this week, we will fight for another dance station. New York lost 3 dance stations in the past, a new station always popped up later. It would be a good opportunity for an underperforming station (Now, RXP, even WBAI) to flip to dance and get an instant million in cume. A station like KTU won't flip to dance because it's successful in rhythmic AC. But a station like WRXP could be performing much better with a dance format than its current format, it's not doing too much better than Pulse despite launching at the same time as Pulse and a full market signal, and it has alternative rock to itself. If we can't get a new dance station on a full signal above 92, we'll settle for another dance station on 87.7. If not, there's HD-2 and pushing dance music to CHR stations that will open up to it like Now 92.3. Even if we don't get any radio presence, you can find an Internet stream of any dance subgenre you like. It isn't like the old days before Internet streaming where you would depend on radio for new music.

Sorry...I gotta ask, what the hell are you trying to do here?

I'm sure you and I can agree that this is what needs to be done to keep dance music alive in New York City. You only said that you think Pulse would be in the top 5 if it were on a station above 92. And I am simply echoing your thoughts on what the coalition should do, since I believe the same things myself.

 

[FM Free NY]

If I may.. Folks, We all have our opinions on how or what should be done to either keep a favorite station around or bring it back. To clearify 2 thing's (1) CBS FM was brought back by new mgmt in the hire brass, not because there were coalitions or boards making demands. (2) Major Radio corp's dont have the right Hire Brass to properly execute a great Dance station in a major market. Most PD's, VP's are guys who were AOR or AAA jocks that still have a radio job as a suit now. CBS Radio has great success with having Dance format's on HD channels as does Clearchannel. But to have a great Dance station on in a major market FM ala Clearchannel or CBS is a phat chance. And to the person whom made the suggestion for or notion of flipping RXP to a Dance station.. Go look at LA with there Movin, which moved out.. Hence why we have these left over "Mom & Pop" co.'s taking the chance and putting a Dance station on. But they dont have the marketing & money backing of a CC or CBS.

Now if we can get someone up in the CBS Brass to be a Top40/Rthymic guy or gal then maybe we can get an underprefoming station to go full on CHR/Dance. Same with CC, but they also have to get Corp. standing behind them as they did when stations went JACK or Movin. An another thing is they need to have paitence with that type of format it's not gonna be a "Worst to First" in 76 days.. So for what's for it's worth let's all be thankful we have a dance station on in the market on FM terrestial. For now!!

 

[stationless listener]

.....WFME. A powerful signal which transmits from Newark covers basically what all other NYC stations cover, if not a little bit more out. You want to know the cume WFME has? 40,000! That's it! Within the entire NYC area, this frequency is being completely wasted. I think there should be a change around the dial more often. Now, WQXR recently moved to 105.9, and WNYC now owns them. Since there are a decent amount of complaints about 105.9, why can't WNYC just place WQXR on 93.9 and have WNYC on HD-2 since they are also on 820 AM, have WFME move to 105.9, and well, you know what can go on 94.7 ;D

Anyway, this is WFME's coverage

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM1184871.html

A much more likely scenario is WNYC making a deal to move WQXR to 94.7 in exchange for WFME moving to 105.9. Since they're both not-for-profit operations, then it wouldn't be considered controversial. Classical music fans get back a full-market signal (they may even change the transmitter at Empire to broadcast from 94.7, if I'm right) and the religious nuts would still have an outlet to hear biblical doom-and-gloom at a fraction of the cost of operating a full-market station. WNYC and WFME, as well as WBAI, are fiefdoms that their most loyal listeners are loath of give up. They'd man the barricades to keep them on the air. OK, maybe the religious nuts would find an outlet in shortwave or the internet if they don't have a radio station on the commercial dial to turn to. However, you can forget about hardcore WNYC and WBAI listeners giving up their precious stations, nor would WNYC fans be content with the main WNYC programming moving to HD-2.

Your best bet is WRXP, WXRK, an HD-2 on one of the full-market for-profit commercial stations or someone new keeping a dance format on the 87.7 frequency, dance fans!

 

[DToTheJ]

Here's hoping that dance music gets an outlet SOONER than oldies people got CBSFM back...

The "Oldies Diva" is drinking the Dance Station Kool-Aid, too?

To borrow a quote from candykidjade:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

 

[andreajesus]

I LOVE Kool-Aid too!! ;D

 

[d21ofnj]

another thing is they need to have paitence with that type of format it's not gonna be a "Worst to First" in 76 days.. So for what's for it's worth let's all be thankful we have a dance station on in the market on FM terrestial. For now!!

NAILED IT!!! I remember all the negative comments about Pulse BEFORE it was on the air about how they wont last a week or six months.

20 MONTHS AND COUNTING!

 

[DeeJay]

another thing is they need to have paitence with that type of format it's not gonna be a "Worst to First" in 76 days.. So for what's for it's worth let's all be thankful we have a dance station on in the market on FM terrestial. For now!!

NAILED IT!!! I remember all the negative comments about Pulse BEFORE it was on the air about how they wont last a week or six months.

20 MONTHS AND COUNTING!

Well if that's not the kiss of death.... It will be interesting to see peoples reactions!

 

[d21ofnj]

another thing is they need to have paitence with that type of format it's not gonna be a "Worst to First" in 76 days.. So for what's for it's worth let's all be thankful we have a dance station on in the market on FM terrestial. For now!!

NAILED IT!!! I remember all the negative comments about Pulse BEFORE it was on the air about how they wont last a week or six months.

20 MONTHS AND COUNTING!

Well if that's not the kiss of death.... It will be interesting to see peoples reactions!

Look, all I am pointing out here is Pulse did something no other station could do, and that was catering to the listeners that mattered, not the "listeners" that those other stations satisfy. Many have demised Pulse even before they went on the air, and they still stood strong regards of Mega Media's previous debt.

 

[neo11]

.....WFME. A powerful signal which transmits from Newark covers basically what all other NYC stations cover, if not a little bit more out. You want to know the cume WFME has? 40,000! That's it! Within the entire NYC area, this frequency is being completely wasted. I think there should be a change around the dial more often. Now, WQXR recently moved to 105.9, and WNYC now owns them. Since there are a decent amount of complaints about 105.9, why can't WNYC just place WQXR on 93.9 and have WNYC on HD-2 since they are also on 820 AM, have WFME move to 105.9, and well, you know what can go on 94.7 ;D

Anyway, this is WFME's coverage

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM1184871.html

A much more likely scenario is WNYC making a deal to move WQXR to 94.7 in exchange for WFME moving to 105.9. Since they're both not-for-profit operations, then it wouldn't be considered controversial. Classical music fans get back a full-market signal (they may even change the transmitter at Empire to broadcast from 94.7, if I'm right) and the religious nuts would still have an outlet to hear biblical doom-and-gloom at a fraction of the cost of operating a full-market station. WNYC and WFME, as well as WBAI, are fiefdoms that their most loyal listeners are loath of give up. They'd man the barricades to keep them on the air. OK, maybe the religious nuts would find an outlet in shortwave or the internet if they don't have a radio station on the commercial dial to turn to. However, you can forget about hardcore WNYC and WBAI listeners giving up their precious stations, nor would WNYC fans be content with the main WNYC programming moving to HD-2.

Your best bet is WRXP, WXRK, an HD-2 on one of the full-market for-profit commercial stations or someone new keeping a dance format on the 87.7 frequency, dance fans!

Not to hijack the thread, but the 94.7/105.9 swap would actually make a ton of sense. Family Radio really would not be affected by 105.9's limited signal as they already have 88.9 covering much of Long Island and 106.9 covering a large chunk of NJ. In the meantime, classical fans would get a full-powered signall for their music on 94.7. Somehow though I doubt it will happen, as much sense as it may make.

 

[TonySantiago]

If Pulse 87 goes down for good at the end of this week, we will fight for another dance station. New York lost 3 dance stations in the past, a new station always popped up later. It would be a good opportunity for an underperforming station (Now, RXP, even WBAI) to flip to dance and get an instant million in cume. A station like KTU won't flip to dance because it's successful in rhythmic AC. But a station like WRXP could be performing much better with a dance format than its current format, it's not doing too much better than Pulse despite launching at the same time as Pulse and a full market signal, and it has alternative rock to itself. If we can't get a new dance station on a full signal above 92, we'll settle for another dance station on 87.7. If not, there's HD-2 and pushing dance music to CHR stations that will open up to it like Now 92.3. Even if we don't get any radio presence, you can find an Internet stream of any dance subgenre you like. It isn't like the old days before Internet streaming where you would depend on radio for new music.

Sorry...I gotta ask, what the hell are you trying to do here?

I'm sure you and I can agree that this is what needs to be done to keep dance music alive in New York City. You only said that you think Pulse would be in the top 5 if it were on a station above 92. And I am simply echoing your thoughts on what the coalition should do, since I believe the same things myself.

:

 

[Mid West Clubber]

I think we will just take what we can get regardless of dial position, as long as its there... It would even settle for a dance heavy chr, if now or z moved in that position, but I doubt either station will add enough dance anytime soon. I dont live in nyc but I feel your pain in virgina and Indiana alike... dont ask... :-\

 

[Dancerev889]

If Pulse 87 goes down for good at the end of this week, we will fight for another dance station. New York lost 3 dance stations in the past, a new station always popped up later. It would be a good opportunity for an underperforming station (Now, RXP, even WBAI) to flip to dance and get an instant million in cume. A station like KTU won't flip to dance because it's successful in rhythmic AC. But a station like WRXP could be performing much better with a dance format than its current format, it's not doing too much better than Pulse despite launching at the same time as Pulse and a full market signal, and it has alternative rock to itself. If we can't get a new dance station on a full signal above 92, we'll settle for another dance station on 87.7. If not, there's HD-2 and pushing dance music to CHR stations that will open up to it like Now 92.3. Even if we don't get any radio presence, you can find an Internet stream of any dance subgenre you like. It isn't like the old days before Internet streaming where you would depend on radio for new music.

Stations that flip do not automatically get cume. So if a station in NYC flipped to a dance format, they are not automatically going to get a million listeners. Formats take time to grow and catch on. You are going to hear a christmas or sports format first before you hear anything else on the FM dial.

Again Top 40 is now more dance friendly and the records that are coming out even from the hip hop community are all upbeat. The transition has begun. Let Top 40 do its job because if more dance music does well there, it could become a waterfall effect and then you will see more dance specific formats popping up.

 

[nd2023]

If Pulse 87 goes down for good at the end of this week, we will fight for another dance station. New York lost 3 dance stations in the past, a new station always popped up later. It would be a good opportunity for an underperforming station (Now, RXP, even WBAI) to flip to dance and get an instant million in cume. A station like KTU won't flip to dance because it's successful in rhythmic AC. But a station like WRXP could be performing much better with a dance format than its current format, it's not doing too much better than Pulse despite launching at the same time as Pulse and a full market signal, and it has alternative rock to itself. If we can't get a new dance station on a full signal above 92, we'll settle for another dance station on 87.7. If not, there's HD-2 and pushing dance music to CHR stations that will open up to it like Now 92.3. Even if we don't get any radio presence, you can find an Internet stream of any dance subgenre you like. It isn't like the old days before Internet streaming where you would depend on radio for new music.

Stations that flip do not automatically get cume. So if a station in NYC flipped to a dance format, they are not automatically going to get a million listeners. Formats take time to grow and catch on. You are going to hear a christmas or sports format first before you hear anything else on the FM dial.

Again Top 40 is now more dance friendly and the records that are coming out even from the hip hop community are all upbeat. The transition has begun. Let Top 40 do its job because if more dance music does well there, it could become a waterfall effect and then you will see more dance specific formats popping up.

Let's say that Emmis buys the intellectual property of Pulse 87 and puts it on 101.9. The word will spread to Pulse's cume that it can be heard on 101.9. A similar thing happened 2 years ago in Indianapolis. Radio Now 93.1 flipped to all-Christmas the first week of October and a week later, Radio One bought the IP for Radio Now and put it on 100.9. In this day and age, there's something called the Internet that will alert people about a frequency change.

About top 40 being more dance friendly, I heard 3 dance songs on 3 different CHRs at the same time today. Hit 106 was playing DJ Sammy - Heaven, Wired 96.5 was playing Kaci Battaglia - Crazy Possessive, Now 92.3 was playing Cascada - Evacuate The Dancefloor, Pulse 87 was playing Ameerah - Sound Of Missing You. And 2 weeks ago when I was leaving a club in Long Island, I heard a dance mixshow on 106.1 BLI and KC101. That's got to tell you something about how dance friendly top 40 has become.

 

[badjef]

Pulse is still on the air after a few days of silent carrier. I'm just impressed with the reach of that station...

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[Dancerev889]

If Pulse 87 goes down for good at the end of this week, we will fight for another dance station. New York lost 3 dance stations in the past, a new station always popped up later. It would be a good opportunity for an underperforming station (Now, RXP, even WBAI) to flip to dance and get an instant million in cume. A station like KTU won't flip to dance because it's successful in rhythmic AC. But a station like WRXP could be performing much better with a dance format than its current format, it's not doing too much better than Pulse despite launching at the same time as Pulse and a full market signal, and it has alternative rock to itself. If we can't get a new dance station on a full signal above 92, we'll settle for another dance station on 87.7. If not, there's HD-2 and pushing dance music to CHR stations that will open up to it like Now 92.3. Even if we don't get any radio presence, you can find an Internet stream of any dance subgenre you like. It isn't like the old days before Internet streaming where you would depend on radio for new music.

Stations that flip do not automatically get cume. So if a station in NYC flipped to a dance format, they are not automatically going to get a million listeners. Formats take time to grow and catch on. You are going to hear a christmas or sports format first before you hear anything else on the FM dial.

Again Top 40 is now more dance friendly and the records that are coming out even from the hip hop community are all upbeat. The transition has begun. Let Top 40 do its job because if more dance music does well there, it could become a waterfall effect and then you will see more dance specific formats popping up.

Let's say that Emmis buys the intellectual property of Pulse 87 and puts it on 101.9. The word will spread to Pulse's cume that it can be heard on 101.9. A similar thing happened 2 years ago in Indianapolis. Radio Now 93.1 flipped to all-Christmas the first week of October and a week later, Radio One bought the IP for Radio Now and put it on 100.9. In this day and age, there's something called the Internet that will alert people about a frequency change.

About top 40 being more dance friendly, I heard 3 dance songs on 3 different CHRs at the same time today. Hit 106 was playing DJ Sammy - Heaven, Wired 96.5 was playing Kaci Battaglia - Crazy Possessive, Now 92.3 was playing Cascada - Evacuate The Dancefloor, Pulse 87 was playing Ameerah - Sound Of Missing You. And 2 weeks ago when I was leaving a club in Long Island, I heard a dance mixshow on 106.1 BLI and KC101. That's got to tell you something about how dance friendly top 40 has become.

So explain to me why that other formats when they flip dont have a million cume or much cume at all? Is every person in NYC market going to get an email, text message, instant message, facebook message or any other type of message saying that another dance station is going to go on the air? The general listener isnt going to go on the net searching for a station. There is a thing call promotions which takes time. You have to build an audience.

 

[JustinCase]

In the short term, the best outcome for Dance fans will probably have to be KTU tweaking back... in an attempt to stave off NOW, and bolster Z100... CC will want to grab the 800,000 or so Pulse fans and not let NOW attempt to woo...

Such a move would likely be heavily dayparted like 2002-06... where nights sounded hotter rhythmic CHR and daytime was a more rhythmic a/c mix of top new hits and recurrent gold... KTU is in the best position to add more new dance tracks without changing formats or really alienating anyone as the general public already thinks its a dance station... more current dance can only help the sound especially at night as times are far more dance friendly and can audience build for them... big step would be bring back more mix shows at night....

 

[MarcR]

... CC will want to grab the 800,000 or so Pulse fans and not let NOW attempt to woo...

The majority of those 800,000 probably sample quite frequently both 'KTU and Now-FM, so Pulse's demise won't make much of a dent in the cume of either station.

 

[nd2023]

... CC will want to grab the 800,000 or so Pulse fans and not let NOW attempt to woo...

The majority of those 800,000 probably sample quite frequently both 'KTU and Now-FM, so Pulse's demise won't make much of a dent in the cume of either station.

The majority of the P1s don't listen to any other station.
KTU is doing fine as it is with the Rhythmic AC format, why would it want to risk losing its market share by tweaking to current dance? The station that would be likely to tweak towards current dance would be Now 92.3 since it's not doing too well and Pulse 87's beating Now FM in certain dayparts.

 

[nd2023]

How 97 could gain a few more ears if it adopts a Party 105-ish sound. I don't know why Emmis is continuing to throw money away at WRXP when it has still performed below expectations. Emmis could switch WRXP to dance even before Pulse shuts down, and it would get a lot of cume simply because of the signal and would force Pulse to change formats.