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What we need in Boston is more Pirate Stations not less!!!!!

The Beave said:
HoodFiga said:
More power to Pirate radio in Boston. They represent a triumph in diversity and shouldn't be fined by the FCC but commended.

Wait a second...First of all put the crack pipe down and perk your ears to this... In a recent article in the Rapid City, SD daily paper There was an article about a month ago that a small group of engineers located a unlicensed station in Minnesota - Similar scenario BUT... yes it was interfering with 2 stations and the regional airport's signals.
Word got out to a group of bikers in the minneapolis area who came to this small town and ripped the antenna down and cut the power to the place while the unlicensed operator was not home.

Needless to say the FCC had sent the operator a C&D notice without a fine. The unlicensed 100 watt facility has yet to return to the air.

Estimated damage was to the effect of 13 thousand US dollars.

This gives new meaning to "Vigilante Justice".

The Minnesota States Attorney says no charges will be filed against the engineers nor the bikers involved.

All that interference with 100 watts? Please, spare me. Did you know that Australia permits unlicenced micro broadcasters? Why not here. Y'know, frredom of expression, and all that.
 
maybe there would be a space for 10 watts BUT Big City 101.3 pushing a 1000 watts and a signal better than most of the legal college stations.Instead of paperwork just confiscate the transmiter and antenna..Then let Big City go to court to prove the FCC was wrong in taking it away.
 
On FM 100 watts doesn't seem like much, but on the AM band there is WJIB at 5 watts at night, WLYN at 76 watts, WILD has to sign off to protect WBAL... the list continues... and we have not even discussed night patterns that send signal to the fish.

But I reiterate there is not an empty space in or around Boston that will support any power FM station without causing problems with existing stations.
 
ZRXOA 5248 said:
I fly General Aviation when the time allows, and the last thing I want, outside of a mechanical problem that would cause lack of lift, is for any of my electronics to be rendered useless because of some effn pirate.

Unlike the days of the Wright Brothers, I am pretty dependent on the avionics package to make sure I get up or down safely.

Are there procedures for those rare instances where there is an electrical failure.. sure. Do I want to be put in that position in an area of airspace like the Class A controlled airspace around Boston? Hell no!

Go to liveATC.net ( http://www.liveatc.net/feedindex.php?type=class-d-center ) and listen to say Nantucket (KACK) for a few minutes.. that is Class D airspace.. nowhere near the level of control required to fly near Boston... Listen to the amount of radio traffic for getting in and out of there, and for moving around the taxiways before and after landing. Do you really want to be in the position of being in a plane that doesn't have the information that frequency provides? Imagine you are on a fully loaded 767 approaching Boston, and you can't hear the tower... people are going to get hurt.

AMEN Brother!
 
Sam Lit said:
The Beave said:
HoodFiga said:
More power to Pirate radio in Boston. They represent a triumph in diversity and shouldn't be fined by the FCC but commended.

Wait a second...First of all put the crack pipe down and perk your ears to this... In a recent article in the Rapid City, SD daily paper There was an article about a month ago that a small group of engineers located a unlicensed station in Minnesota - Similar scenario BUT... yes it was interfering with 2 stations and the regional airport's signals.
Word got out to a group of bikers in the minneapolis area who came to this small town and ripped the antenna down and cut the power to the place while the unlicensed operator was not home.

Needless to say the FCC had sent the operator a C&D notice without a fine. The unlicensed 100 watt facility has yet to return to the air.

Estimated damage was to the effect of 13 thousand US dollars.

This gives new meaning to "Vigilante Justice".

The Minnesota States Attorney says no charges will be filed against the engineers nor the bikers involved.

All that interference with 100 watts? Please, spare me. Did you know that Australia permits unlicenced micro broadcasters? Why not here. Y'know, frredom of expression, and all that.

Sam they do on FM 1/2 watt. - 1/4 mile broadcast area.
 
rapking said:
Airports need to update there BedRock Junk .O Yeah That Right, Its not the Sleeping Airport Security Guards Fault, What Happened, back on Sept 2001 .

What in the bleeping world do pirates have to do with 9/11?

That which you so ignorantly dismiss as "BedRock Junk" is the basis of the entire WORLDwide air traffic system. The same groups of frequencies are used by every commercial airliner and every airport around the world, by international agreement. If it was "junk" it would have been upgraded years ago. The only time it doesn't work is when some pirate radio moron parks his homebuilt transmitter on the FM band and spits spurs onto the aircraft frequencies. Apparently it doesn't matter to you and your pirate radio buddies that lives are put in danger because some idiot decides the world just HAS to hear his 30 favorite songs.

Funniest/sorriest excuse for pirate radio I've heard yet.
 
dumber than a box of hair said:
rapking said:
Airports need to update there BedRock Junk .O Yeah That Right, Its not the Sleeping Airport Security Guards Fault, What Happened, back on Sept 2001 .

What in the bleeping world do pirates have to do with 9/11?

That which you so ignorantly dismiss as "BedRock Junk" is the basis of the entire WORLDwide air traffic system. The same groups of frequencies are used by every commercial airliner and every airport around the world, by international agreement. If it was "junk" it would have been upgraded years ago. The only time it doesn't work is when some pirate radio moron parks his homebuilt transmitter on the FM band and spits spurs onto the aircraft frequencies. Apparently it doesn't matter to you and your pirate radio buddies that lives are put in danger because some idiot decides the world just HAS to hear his 30 favorite songs.

Funniest/sorriest excuse for pirate radio I've heard yet.
Airport take the blame for nothing. Its alway someone's else Fault. Yeah , 106.1 Touch-FM Made those Near miss Crash, on the New York city Runways this week . Blame Big City 101, on that emergency plane landing this week at Logan airport. Dont Blame The Air traffic control personal, Whom is half sleep at th wheel ( Shortage and Over worked employee's)
 
Maybe our crack pipe pirates.. missed something in the anarchist's cookbook for radio...

FM is 88.1 to 107.9.
Aviation is 109.1 to 149.9

The aviation ATC radios are owned by the Government.
The FCC is a government bureau.

Broadcasters PAY for those licenses.

Pirates - Steal the licenses and go to prison when caught - or pay alot of money.

'NUFF SAID. ;D
 
The Beave said:
Maybe our crack pipe pirates.. missed something in the anarchist's cookbook for radio...

FM is 88.1 to 107.9.
Aviation is 109.1 to 149.9

The aviation ATC radios are owned by the Government.
The FCC is a government bureau.

Broadcasters PAY for those licenses.

Pirates - Steal the licenses and go to prison when caught - or pay alot of money.

'NUFF SAID. ;D
109.1 to 149.9 . No pirates in Boston are on those signals. Look like The Airports are doing The Blame Game . Airport Hire Aliens, to clean up the Bathrooms. That must happened because of Big City 101 .
 
Because you are not an engineer I'll just attribute your lack of knowledge about the finer points of RF like spurious radiation, harmonics, etc to your uninformed status

If you are old enough to remember CB RADIO, you'll remember there were times when some good buddy drove by your house and all of a sudden channel 5 looked like crap and you heard some redneck looking for a beaver. That is the second harmonic of 27 Mhz which just happens to be smack in the middle of the 6 mhz bandwidth of WCVB and the CB second harmonic would come down the antenna and be processed. The TV doesn't know any better it just sees a signal strips the components from the carrier and sends the AM, FM and PM components to the audio, video and color sections of the chassis.

When a real radio station does a "proof of operation" and they put a spectrum analyzer in the air chain, they see IF and where they are tossing other than allowed radiation out into the spectrum. You always have harmonics, it's just a matter of keeping within the established guidelines for signal strength of them,Pirates don't bother doing proofs. One of the first "proofs" I did as an engineer was to find out why the station I worked for was being heard over a toaster oven near the transmitter site. It turned out to be a exciter that was out of tolerance and a new one was shipped in overnight from Optimod IIRC

Now I know I am not going to convince you that pirates do indeed cause problems to other parts of the spectrum as well as just causing problems in the FM Broadcast radio allotment. Don't let the facts get in the way of your argument.
 
ZRXOA 5248 said:
Because you are not an engineer I'll just attribute your lack of knowledge about the finer points of RF like spurious radiation, harmonics, etc to your uninformed status

If you are old enough to remember CB RADIO, you'll remember there were times when some good buddy drove by your house and all of a sudden channel 5 looked like crap and you heard some redneck looking for a beaver. That is the second harmonic of 27 Mhz which just happens to be smack in the middle of the 6 mhz bandwith of WCVB and the CB second harmonic would come down the antenna and be processed. The TV doesn't know any better it just sees a signal strips the components from the carrier and sends the AM, FM and PM components to the audio, video and color sections of the chassis.

When a real radio station does a "proof of operation" and they put a spectrum analyzer in the air chain, they see IF and where they are tossing other than allowed radiation out into the spectrum. Pirates don't bother doing proofs.

Now I know I am not going to convince you that pirates do indeed cause problems to other parts of the spectrum as well as just causing problems in the FM Broadcast radio allotment. Don't let the facts get in the way of your argument.
And T-Storms sometime's cut off my T.V. Next up, Blame God .
 
How about... less pirates, and more people get iPods and listen to what they want to listen to. Pirates need to answer to the man like everyone else.
 
Pirate radio is for those who are not technically inclined enough to run an internet radio station. :p

Q: What do you call the offspring of a Pirate???

A: A redheaded stepchild.
 
Take it up with my cousins: Geraldine and Robert Creedon. They'll cave in to your demands.

No, Boston does not need more pirates.

Oh, and to the poster who commented on Logan:

They are not in the stone age, you are my friend. They do not use an abacus to count planes. Please, just stick to what you know how to do.
 
rapking said:
The Beave said:
Maybe our crack pipe pirates.. missed something in the anarchist's cookbook for radio...

FM is 88.1 to 107.9.
Aviation is 109.1 to 149.9

The aviation ATC radios are owned by the Government.
The FCC is a government bureau.

Broadcasters PAY for those licenses.

Pirates - Steal the licenses and go to prison when caught - or pay alot of money.

'NUFF SAID. ;D
109.1 to 149.9 . No pirates in Boston are on those signals. Look like The Airports are doing The Blame Game . Airport Hire Aliens, to clean up the Bathrooms. That must happened because of Big City 101 .

WTF are you talking about???????
 
C'mon Hoodfiga, you stir up the hornets nest then disappear when posters, with just a few more than 2 posts, voice their opinion. Afraid to mix it up are we? Did mom take your mouse-pad away? Here's my take: I love the idea of pirates....I'm a rebel from way back...but..any interference with established frequencies, forget it. So I'm a pirate with a phony eye patch.
 
WVCAfan said:
C'mon Hoodfiga, you stir up the hornets nest then disappear when posters, with just a few more than 2 posts, voice their opinion. Afraid to mix it up are we? Did mom take your mouse-pad away? Here's my take: I love the idea of pirates....I'm a rebel from way back...but..any interference with established frequencies, forget it. So I'm a pirate with a phony eye patch.
100% Pirate Here !
 
rapazz,
Listen... I hope someone in boston did what I did reciently in Minneapolis,
located your signal, E-mailed EVERY Engineer, station, and anti-African American organization in the metro (all 22 of them) and waited for the results.

Needless to say the station is no longer on the air. (1 week)

BTW - This time I hope it is the ATC union or the Airline Pilots' association members that take you down. :eek:

I'm not a hater..
but if you exceed 1 watt FM of .500 mw AM - you will get what you deserve.

May God Bless your sorry azz.

the LPFM auction is 2 weeks away.
 
Newark, NJ is the worst place for pirates. You have powerful pirate stations operating 200 kHz from Class B's only 10 miles away, and pirate stations interfering with other pirate stations. I ran out of fingers and toes counting the pirate stations. Most of them have been on for years, but I notice new ones popping up every few months. The pirates run loooooong stopsets, which means the operators get a lot of tax-free income. Even some banks and grocery stores advertise on the pirates. You even get some of the pirates 30 miles away normally, and 60 miles away on tropo. rapking would be in heaven just listening to pirate after pirate. On any Saturday night, you won't hear static on any FM frequency in Newark, you'll hear a pirate station. It's weird how they sound, some guy yells into the mic about some random topic in a foreign accent or language as a song is playing, in the middle of the song. I would like to rip every pirate antenna down some day, and clean up the airwaves. The FCC won't bust them. They could instantly make millions off fines if they busted every pirate.
 
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