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BOBBY.B said:
No, you must be confused...the 60's and Motown are the SAME OLD THING...
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What Will Be The First Song On K-Hits 104.3?
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No, you must be confused...the 60's and Motown are the SAME OLD THING...
new guy here, been lurking for a little while
K-hits = :'( . we listened too The JACK at work in the afternoon. not any more. The Loop now.
what is it with chicago FM rock music radio playing the same songs over & over & over & over, etc x1000 ?
is the chicago demographic so narrow minded that they do not realize there are other songs on these albums and in this genre ? or do these "other" songs cost more money ?
K-hits = :'( . we listened too The JACK at work in the afternoon. not any more. The Loop now.
what is it with chicago FM rock music radio playing the same songs over & over & over & over, etc x1000 ?
is the chicago demographic so narrow minded that they do not realize there are other songs on these albums and in this genre ? or do these "other" songs cost more money ?
on that same note kinda, I need someone to tell me how "stiffs" get on radio station playlists all across America and get played in decent rotations. As I said in an earlier post, I'm LOVIN K-HITS (and no I don't have a dog in this fight as someone suggested. I swear I'm not an employee of any Chicago radio station). But I was listening to K-HITS and my wife and I were a little surprised when they played "I Melt With You" by Modern English. I just don't get this song or other stiffs like Peter Gabrial "In Your Eyes" as an example. I hear Modern English on stations that usually don't do very well in the ratings in their respective markets so that's why it kind of surprised me that K-HITS is rolling along playing hit after hit and then that song came on. It stood out like a sore thumb.
The production value of the song is amateur and the vocals are horrendous. So we looked it up, ready to be proven wrong, and the song stiffed not once, but twice. Once in the early 80's it peaked at #78 on the billboard hot 100. Then it was re-released in the late 80's and again, not enough interest in it and it peaked at #76. This underground non-mass appeal title hardly warrants getting the airplay it gets. And don't give me the crap answer that it 'tests". A stiff that never sold enough records and only peaked in the 70's not once, but twice should never waste a test catagory. And again, usually you don't hear that song on stations that do well in mass appeal demos. Thanks!
The production value of the song is amateur and the vocals are horrendous. So we looked it up, ready to be proven wrong, and the song stiffed not once, but twice. Once in the early 80's it peaked at #78 on the billboard hot 100. Then it was re-released in the late 80's and again, not enough interest in it and it peaked at #76. This underground non-mass appeal title hardly warrants getting the airplay it gets. And don't give me the crap answer that it 'tests". A stiff that never sold enough records and only peaked in the 70's not once, but twice should never waste a test catagory. And again, usually you don't hear that song on stations that do well in mass appeal demos. Thanks!
tpizzle said:
It was an MTV hit and played an important part in the movie "Valley Girl." You gotta remember that the 80s were the decade where other places besides the radio could make a song a hit--and "I Melt With You" connected with an audience that didn't buy singles (we didn't have a real KROQ-style alt station in Chicago in the 80s, but I would assume that XRT played this song a lot back then).
As for "In Your Eyes," let's just say John Cusack and the boom box in "Say Anything." And let's not forget that Etta Jeames' "At Last" was a pop stiff when it came out in 1961, but has become a wedding standard thanks to commercials and movies.
I now await your argument that oldies radio should play Debby Boone's "You Light Up My Life" because it was number one for 9 weeks or Charlene's "I've Never Been to Me" because it made Top 5. Billboard placement doesn't mean a thing when it comes to what contemporary audiences respond to.
OK, Mark Jefferies you can't be talking about NOVELTY songs like Debbie Boone and Charlene in a question about a STIFF. Plus, I don't care about mtv (which during the late 80's and into the mid 90's when they were chasing game shows and bad sitcom type shows and playing little or no music videos, the cume of that channel had at one time fallen to below 400,000. I don't think that channel in it's crippled stage had any way of making something popular. And when songs are in movies, sometimes if they are good it will propel them up the charts. But that didn't happen with "I melt with you'. You said sources OTHER than radio could make a song a hit. Well guess what? Even those other sources DIDN'T make it a hit.....it NEVER CHARTED.
Now I must admit, it makes a GREAT breakfast sandwich commercial or whatever it was in with melting cheese etc, but not a song you play on a station that claims to be playing the greatest songs. It truly was a stiff and no radio programmer can ever convince me it or any stiff belongs on a station wanting ratings unless you can produce data that shows that song moved at a lightning pace off the store shelves and/or computer downloads with the buying public. There are TOO many good songs that take you back to when they were popular because you heard them being played on the radio and THEY have withstood the test of time.
Now I must admit, it makes a GREAT breakfast sandwich commercial or whatever it was in with melting cheese etc, but not a song you play on a station that claims to be playing the greatest songs. It truly was a stiff and no radio programmer can ever convince me it or any stiff belongs on a station wanting ratings unless you can produce data that shows that song moved at a lightning pace off the store shelves and/or computer downloads with the buying public. There are TOO many good songs that take you back to when they were popular because you heard them being played on the radio and THEY have withstood the test of time.
tpizzle said:
"I Melt WIth You" may not have been Top 10 on the Hot 100, but it peaked at number 7 on what was then the Top Tracks chart and is now the Mainstream Rock Tracks chart. That meant that AOR radio (Loop, WMET) was playing it a lot--and back then, more men were listening to AOR than CHR (it was the Loop that was the first FM to break WLS' winning streak in young demos back in 1979, thanks to Steve Dahl and Disco Demolition). I would bet that if you went into any dance club that leaned New Wave back then, you were likely to hear the song. I remember the song from when it was first around and I bet a lot more people remember it than they do, say, Ray Parker, Jr.'s "The Other Woman" or that Charlene record (which is not a novelty record, moron--novelty records are Rick Dees' "Disco Duck" or anything from Weird Al). You cannot get around the fact that the beginning of the balkanization of musical tastes was in the 80s, which is why a song that peaked on the Hot 100 at number 78 can be more fondly remembered than what was on the top of the charts then.
I would have been shocked if WMET or WLUP ever played " I Melt With You".
Back then or any time since. Makes my brain hurt to imagine it.
WXRT certainly did play it. And yes, every club that leaned "new wave" at all in the 80s played it. Lots.
This evening 104.3 played "Funkytown" by Lipps, Inc.
I don't care all for the audio..way too crisped and crunchy. The bass is wrapped up in a straightjacket.
Back then or any time since. Makes my brain hurt to imagine it.
WXRT certainly did play it. And yes, every club that leaned "new wave" at all in the 80s played it. Lots.
This evening 104.3 played "Funkytown" by Lipps, Inc.
I don't care all for the audio..way too crisped and crunchy. The bass is wrapped up in a straightjacket.
tpizzle said:
I'm only guessing, but my guess is that most radio listeners don't know or don't care how high a song from the 1980s charted on Billboard. They may care about whether they liked it at the time, and they probably do care about whether they like it now.
At the time? Z95 played it.
Now? The Drive plays it. (The Drive = station that definitely does "do well in mass appeal demos")
I'm with you, personally, in that it is not and has never been a big favorite of mine. But it does test well in many markets. A program director would be a total fool not to play a song that is popular with the target audience.
now I agree with "I Melt With You" on an ac (kinda....not really) but NOT on a classic hits station. Classic Hits is a memory based format and does I Melt With You bring back memories of the 70's or 80's? NO! Cause it wasn't played then cause it was a STIFF. That is why you need to stick with charted hits on gold based formats.
With all that said, KHITS sounds incredible and I wish them all the luck in the world! They will probably hit top 5 25-54 next ppm trend.
With all that said, KHITS sounds incredible and I wish them all the luck in the world! They will probably hit top 5 25-54 next ppm trend.
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