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What will the next SJ station be to bite the dust?
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majaman78
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SJFAN said:
If it's BA affiliated, who cares if they bite the friggin' dust???
They ruined the format anyway (it's not smooth jazz but smooth AC) starting some 10 years ago. As the format's biggest fan
I am praying for their demise ASAP because their junky product won't be missed. Jones was the last outpost for creativity in the format, and now that they're gone there's nothing good left for it in its current sad state. And I'm happy to report ALL terrestrial radio seems to be in trouble, which can only be construed as positive!
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cklw800
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My bet's on WDSJ wasting away in Dayton. Possibly WNUA if the PPMs are really that bad. KKSF and KYOT are basically the same as the aforementioned, so any BA Network SJ station is game at this point. The format really had a chance but no one's crying over the demise. Plus not many jobs will be lost since there's no one to cut. Most of these stations are all network. Didn't see this coming. I thought the game was to cut people. Since CC SJ stations have no left people to cut I thought maybe the stations would just hang on. Guess BA thought that too.
i want to see one of those carol archer puff pieces with a quote or two from kepler now after the way the year 2008 was for the smooth jazz format. remember how the smooth jazz network was supposed to save the format? well, in my estimation, all it has done is quickened its demise. stations everywhere blew out staffs for network dayparts, with kepler promising big results for stations with a very low operating cost. well, when the higher-ups of these stations realized the listeners were too savvy for the absolute mickey-mouse programming that is the smooth jazz network, they've eliminated the stations altogether. what a disaster.
in the long run as many people have mentioned, the demise of BA is probably a good thing for the format, but still, even four years ago, while it certainly wasn't perfect, at least the format was in a lot of markets and maybe half of the playlists of the stations were salvageable. it certainly was not a laughingstock. now, the remaining stations that are even running the format are an absolute joke. just look at KTWV's playlist on yes.com. some of the songs they play right now were unimaginable on SJ radio a few years ago. i really feel like this whole situation could have been avoided but when you place the hands of the format with one dubious group of people and just them alone i guess it shouldn't really be a surprise.
in the long run as many people have mentioned, the demise of BA is probably a good thing for the format, but still, even four years ago, while it certainly wasn't perfect, at least the format was in a lot of markets and maybe half of the playlists of the stations were salvageable. it certainly was not a laughingstock. now, the remaining stations that are even running the format are an absolute joke. just look at KTWV's playlist on yes.com. some of the songs they play right now were unimaginable on SJ radio a few years ago. i really feel like this whole situation could have been avoided but when you place the hands of the format with one dubious group of people and just them alone i guess it shouldn't really be a surprise.
This is almost a dead issue now because these "Smooth Jazz" stations have already changed formats in everything but name. They are Lite A/C - B-EZ hybrids, not Smooth Jazz or NAC. So why should a listener who wants to hear contemporary instrumental music even bother. Ya know..it's like that old "McDonalds" analogy - that when people come to McDonalds they expect hamburgers so don't serve them tacos.
When listeners come to smooth jazz they want quality instrumentals so don't serve them 4 pop vocals and 2 mediocre covers between every original instrumental song. A few strong songs did actually make the cut this year and break the top 10 on the corporate chart but how much Kool and the Gang, Eurythmics, and Fergie did you have to sit thru to hear one of them.
In the case of Love 94 they simply realized that the market was young and hip so if they were going to be an A/C they needed to be Rhythmic-Dance A/C, not Smooth A/C.
When listeners come to smooth jazz they want quality instrumentals so don't serve them 4 pop vocals and 2 mediocre covers between every original instrumental song. A few strong songs did actually make the cut this year and break the top 10 on the corporate chart but how much Kool and the Gang, Eurythmics, and Fergie did you have to sit thru to hear one of them.
In the case of Love 94 they simply realized that the market was young and hip so if they were going to be an A/C they needed to be Rhythmic-Dance A/C, not Smooth A/C.
Dark horse. Not next but eventually. WLOQ to vocal driven Lite A/C, like a hipper version of the Dove. Easy listening vocals and an occasional instrumental but with the vocals the smooth jazz format currently plays instead of Bread, Air Supply and Neil Diamond.
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theradiokid
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The next Smooth Jazz station to disappear will be WSJT in Tampa, FL. That’s not a prediction, that’s a fact.
Within time, there will only be 3 SJ stations standing: WNWV (Cleveland, OH), WLOQ (Orlando, FL), and KMYT (Temecula/Riverside, CA.)
--The Radio Kid
(AKA Oswego Jeremy, as nicknamed by George of the Radio Racket.)
My email: [email protected].
Within time, there will only be 3 SJ stations standing: WNWV (Cleveland, OH), WLOQ (Orlando, FL), and KMYT (Temecula/Riverside, CA.)
--The Radio Kid
(AKA Oswego Jeremy, as nicknamed by George of the Radio Racket.)
My email: [email protected].
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theradiokid
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Nock said:
Nock, I just checked radiostationworld.com, and WSJT is still listed as Smooth Jazz. Also, it is on the main signal. The HD2 is classical. I’m listening to it now as I write this. If WSJT changed 6 months ago, what did it change to? Please tell me that.
--The Radio Kid
(AKA Oswego Jeremy, as nicknamed by George of the Radio Racket.)
My email: [email protected].
Nock said:
Oh my, in what way is Prince smooth jazz? I can't think of a single reason! He's all pop really.
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Tosh
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Exactly, and in the meantime true Contemporary Jazz vocalists (established or up and coming) are completely omitted.icycool7227 said:
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majaman78
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icycool7227 said:
And the once great KTWV "The Wave" is playing Michael Jackson!! :
Rumor is 104.3 in Columbus will exit Smooth Jazz for Classic Hits...
Though SAGA could keep 103.5 (104.3's sister) as smooth Jazz.
We'll see tomorrow!
Though SAGA could keep 103.5 (104.3's sister) as smooth Jazz.
We'll see tomorrow!
The Columbus simulcast was split, with the weaker 104.3 dropping the signal for Classic Hits previously heard on 107.9. That signal looks like it barely covers any of Columbus decently.
But the 103.5 signal, with the good coverage over most of the city, has retained it.
But the 103.5 signal, with the good coverage over most of the city, has retained it.
Well now you know how we classical radio fans feel everytime another classical signal bites the dust... personally, I would love to see smooth jazz take off on AM radio! I'm tired of all the blah, blah, blah. Sheesh! In fact I would love to hear straight ahead jazz on the air again (AM or FM). There is one such jazz station on AM; it's WBAA in West Lafayette... sometimes we can hear them in Chicagoland at night. Unfortunately it's not a very strong station.
What is scary about this train of thought is that B/EZ went to AM, especially with Music Of Your Life, right before it put the other foot in the grave and totally died.
- Very few stations put out a quality AM signal, and that's part of the reason why AM is not considered useful for music programming. That's really not the case if you do it right.
- For whatever reason, advertisers don't care about anyone over the age of 34. I fail to understand why, when the average age of the country is increasing every year. There's very little music programming for older adults, and maybe that's why many do not listen to radio any more, except for the news.
- Not that the news is very good these days either...
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