Dave Smith Motors apparently takes pride in selling more RAM trucks than any other dealer in the world. That's why they advertise in Seattle. You don't sell thousands of RAM trucks in a year by marketing yourself around Kellogg, ID. You probably don't stay in business just by marketing yourself in Kellogg.
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i miss the locally produced horror host movie shows.
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Re: A Possible Solution (Was: Re: Whatever Happened to Local TV?)
And you think Hearst is going to want to run a show on their Manchester station distributed by one of their competitors in Boston? I doubt even Bill Binnie would want to want to run a show on his station distributed by a Boston station. With the way ownership is anywhere around the country I think that would be hard. What surprises me is you don't see a company like Hearst produce something from their Boston station which airs in Manchester, Burlington/Plattsburgh/Upper Valley and Portland on the stations they own in those markets. Chronicle is the closest thing to that (which does not air on WPTZ/WNNE does WMTW have their own version?) and I am not sure if WMUR and WCVB even share a lot of content between each other.
Joseph_Gallant said:One possibility might be Regional Syndication.
Here, a TV station in a major market produces a show which is not only seen there, but seen in neighboring markets as well.
In many cases, the show can still be "local" although it may air in up to a half-dozen cities.
As an example, WBZ-4 in Boston could produce a regional talk/variety show that could also be broadcast in Providence, Hartford, Springfield, Manchester, Portland, Burlington, and Bangor. As a CBS O&O, WBZ might get the CBS affiliates in those cities (except Manchester, where CBS has no affiliate) to pick-up the aforementioned show.
Or WRC-4 in Washington could produce a regional program that could be picked-up by stations in Baltimore, Salisbury, Hagerstown and Richmond.
Or KABC-7 Los Angeles could produce a show that could be distributed regionally to San Diego, Palm Springs, and Santa Barbara.
The originating station could charge more for commercial spots, given that the show is seen in several nearby markets, and that should cover the costs of producing the show.
And you think Hearst is going to want to run a show on their Manchester station distributed by one of their competitors in Boston? I doubt even Bill Binnie would want to want to run a show on his station distributed by a Boston station. With the way ownership is anywhere around the country I think that would be hard. What surprises me is you don't see a company like Hearst produce something from their Boston station which airs in Manchester, Burlington/Plattsburgh/Upper Valley and Portland on the stations they own in those markets. Chronicle is the closest thing to that (which does not air on WPTZ/WNNE does WMTW have their own version?) and I am not sure if WMUR and WCVB even share a lot of content between each other.
TheBigA said:Morgan Wick said:Maybe this regional-syndication idea works best with a number of contiguous stations owned by the same company...
FCC ownership laws don't permit continuous stations owned by the same company.
I think what they meant is a situation like in Upstate NY where Nexstar owns stations in Syracuse, Utica, Watertown, Rochester, Elmira and Binghamton.
Two things, I think, more or less killed locally-originated television.
One was Action for Children's Television's insistence that kids'-show
hosts not do commercials for their sponsors' products; I remember that
the bread company that sponsored Buckskin Bill on WAFB Baton Rouge
pulled all its advertising off the station when Buckskin Bill wasn't allowed
to do their commercials any longer. Also, stations were looking for shows
that were more compatible with their 6 PM newscasts (in Raleigh, WRAL
ran sitcom reruns while WTVD had Merv; when I lived in Dallas, where in
the late '70s the local news started at 5, KDFW had Merv, KXAS delayed
"Sanford And Son" from 9 AM to 3:30 PM, followed at 4 by "Emergency
One!," and WFAA had movies--however, WFAA and KTVT were probably
doing more local programming than most stations at the time).
The other was increased spending on local news. WLWT Cincinnati was,
at one time, a hotbed of live, local variety shows with live audiences:
Ruth Lyons (and her successor, Bob Braun), Paul Dixon, Vivienne della
Chiesa. Nick Clooney was on WCPO, then on WKRC; John Wade was on
WCPO. Clooney went on to become WKRC's "Eyewitness News" anchor;
Wade went to Atlanta for a time in 1975. But when Multimedia bought
WLWT, it phased out Braun's show (Dixon had died in the mid-'70s and
"Vivienne!" never really caught on), rechanneled that money into news,
and hired--guess?--Jerry Springer, who knocked Clooney out of the number-one
spot on Cincinnati local newscasts.
You might also say that being up against a strong syndicated program didn't
help. WSB's "Today In Georgia" dominated 9 AM for years until WAGA put
"Donahue" against it. "TIG" then kept changing timeslots until Channel 2 put
it to rest in 1978; meantime, Channel 5 dominated the mornings in Atlanta
for years. And WXIA had to take out ads in TV Guide promoting its morning
lineup (when it was still the ABC affiliate and had, among other shows, "Family
Feud" and "Happy Days" in-pattern, and "Pyramid" and "Edge Of Night" on delay),
which did little if any good. And Phil was probably cheaper for Channel 5 than
a local program would have been.
One was Action for Children's Television's insistence that kids'-show
hosts not do commercials for their sponsors' products; I remember that
the bread company that sponsored Buckskin Bill on WAFB Baton Rouge
pulled all its advertising off the station when Buckskin Bill wasn't allowed
to do their commercials any longer. Also, stations were looking for shows
that were more compatible with their 6 PM newscasts (in Raleigh, WRAL
ran sitcom reruns while WTVD had Merv; when I lived in Dallas, where in
the late '70s the local news started at 5, KDFW had Merv, KXAS delayed
"Sanford And Son" from 9 AM to 3:30 PM, followed at 4 by "Emergency
One!," and WFAA had movies--however, WFAA and KTVT were probably
doing more local programming than most stations at the time).
The other was increased spending on local news. WLWT Cincinnati was,
at one time, a hotbed of live, local variety shows with live audiences:
Ruth Lyons (and her successor, Bob Braun), Paul Dixon, Vivienne della
Chiesa. Nick Clooney was on WCPO, then on WKRC; John Wade was on
WCPO. Clooney went on to become WKRC's "Eyewitness News" anchor;
Wade went to Atlanta for a time in 1975. But when Multimedia bought
WLWT, it phased out Braun's show (Dixon had died in the mid-'70s and
"Vivienne!" never really caught on), rechanneled that money into news,
and hired--guess?--Jerry Springer, who knocked Clooney out of the number-one
spot on Cincinnati local newscasts.
You might also say that being up against a strong syndicated program didn't
help. WSB's "Today In Georgia" dominated 9 AM for years until WAGA put
"Donahue" against it. "TIG" then kept changing timeslots until Channel 2 put
it to rest in 1978; meantime, Channel 5 dominated the mornings in Atlanta
for years. And WXIA had to take out ads in TV Guide promoting its morning
lineup (when it was still the ABC affiliate and had, among other shows, "Family
Feud" and "Happy Days" in-pattern, and "Pyramid" and "Edge Of Night" on delay),
which did little if any good. And Phil was probably cheaper for Channel 5 than
a local program would have been.
@bpatrick, one could also argue that the decline of larger locally owned companies have also led to the decline in local programs. A lot of those bakeries and other similar types of businesses no longer exist at the local level. If they still exist, they are often owned by a larger conglomerate.
KeithE4 listed comments on why there are far fewer local children's shows today than in the "good old days" said:3. E/I rules. I think entertainment for kids that doesn't have an educational angle runs afoul of the FCC nowadays.
Only if a TV station carries less than three hours a week of "E/I" children's shows.
If a station already meets the "E/I" requirements, I believe they can broadcast additional entertainment/"escapist"/non "E/I" children's programming as long as they air three hours a week of "E/I"-compliant programming.
Re: A Possible Solution (Was: Re: Whatever Happened to Local TV?)
Not necessarily regional, but group-wide syndicated programming appears on the Scripps stations (and I believe are going nationwide this fall). The game show "Let's Ask America" and news magazine "The List" (co-produced by TelePictures) Both replaced "Wheel of Fortune" and "Jeopardy!" on those Scripps stations that had them.
Raycom also produces a daily news magazine "America Now" for it's owned stations (co-produced by ITV Studios). I believe they utilize lifestyle/feature reports from the Raycom stations group.
There are other station groups doing similar programming (Some Belo stations, like Houston have "Great Day Houston" while Dallas re-purposed their long-running "Good Morning Texas" for the format; Media General offers "Daytime" to nearly every market, though most are LP RTV affiliates). The hook is, certain segments are paid-for by whatever product and/or company the host and guest is demonstrating (ie: a cooking segment might be paid for a local grocery store or restaurant). These paid segments aren't disclosed until the end credits.
Joseph_Gallant said:One possibility might be Regional Syndication.
Here, a TV station in a major market produces a show which is not only seen there, but seen in neighboring markets as well.
In many cases, the show can still be "local" although it may air in up to a half-dozen cities.
As an example, WBZ-4 in Boston could produce a regional talk/variety show that could also be broadcast in Providence, Hartford, Springfield, Manchester, Portland, Burlington, and Bangor. As a CBS O&O, WBZ might get the CBS affiliates in those cities (except Manchester, where CBS has no affiliate) to pick-up the aforementioned show.
Or WRC-4 in Washington could produce a regional program that could be picked-up by stations in Baltimore, Salisbury, Hagerstown and Richmond.
Or KABC-7 Los Angeles could produce a show that could be distributed regionally to San Diego, Palm Springs, and Santa Barbara.
The originating station could charge more for commercial spots, given that the show is seen in several nearby markets, and that should cover the costs of producing the show.
Not necessarily regional, but group-wide syndicated programming appears on the Scripps stations (and I believe are going nationwide this fall). The game show "Let's Ask America" and news magazine "The List" (co-produced by TelePictures) Both replaced "Wheel of Fortune" and "Jeopardy!" on those Scripps stations that had them.
Raycom also produces a daily news magazine "America Now" for it's owned stations (co-produced by ITV Studios). I believe they utilize lifestyle/feature reports from the Raycom stations group.
ding12 said:Chicago has a daily AM show "Windy City Live" which replaced Oprah. The big 4 can offer these types of programs. But they prefer economies of scale with syndicated or network programming.
There are other station groups doing similar programming (Some Belo stations, like Houston have "Great Day Houston" while Dallas re-purposed their long-running "Good Morning Texas" for the format; Media General offers "Daytime" to nearly every market, though most are LP RTV affiliates). The hook is, certain segments are paid-for by whatever product and/or company the host and guest is demonstrating (ie: a cooking segment might be paid for a local grocery store or restaurant). These paid segments aren't disclosed until the end credits.
Much like what's doing on two Gannett stations: "Colorado & Company"
on KUSA, and "Atlanta & Company" on WXIA. Sister station WFMY has
a similar show, "Triad Home Shopping," but it's on Saturdays at 7 PM.
We do have a show that airs statewide: "NC Spin," a "McLaughlin Group"-
type discussion show with a moderator and four panelists who discuss
issues relevant to North Carolina; it airs on Sundays. WRAL has its own
"McLaughlin"-type show, "On The Record," Saturdays at 7, but it's seen only
in the Raleigh-Durham market.
WSPA Greenville-Spartanburg-Asheville also has two locally-produced daily
programs, "Your Carolina" at 10 AM, and "Scene On 7" at 7:30 PM; the latter
runs against "Inside Edition" on WYFF and "Jeopardy!" on WLOS.
on KUSA, and "Atlanta & Company" on WXIA. Sister station WFMY has
a similar show, "Triad Home Shopping," but it's on Saturdays at 7 PM.
We do have a show that airs statewide: "NC Spin," a "McLaughlin Group"-
type discussion show with a moderator and four panelists who discuss
issues relevant to North Carolina; it airs on Sundays. WRAL has its own
"McLaughlin"-type show, "On The Record," Saturdays at 7, but it's seen only
in the Raleigh-Durham market.
WSPA Greenville-Spartanburg-Asheville also has two locally-produced daily
programs, "Your Carolina" at 10 AM, and "Scene On 7" at 7:30 PM; the latter
runs against "Inside Edition" on WYFF and "Jeopardy!" on WLOS.
with some network shows not picked up why not put those shows in syndication and that would give syndication more shows to choose from.
my ideas of shows to be in syndication
BEVERLY HILLS COP
STAR SEARCH
LEGEND OF THE SEEKER (BRING IT BACK FOR A 3RD SEASON)
LETHAL WEOPEN
STAR WARS LIVE ACTION TV SHOW
A CURRENT AFFAIR
BACK TO THE FUTURE LIVE ACTION TV SHOW
HALLOWEEN THE SERIES
FRIDAY THE 13TH THE SERIES (REVIVAL)
A NEW STAR TREK SERIES
ANIMATED CARTOONS :
HARRY POTTER THE ANIMATED SERIES
THE NEW ADVENTURES OF DICK TRACY
TROLLS
STRETCH ARMSTRONG
TOON TOWN
SPY KIDS THE ANIMATED SERIES
my ideas of shows to be in syndication
BEVERLY HILLS COP
STAR SEARCH
LEGEND OF THE SEEKER (BRING IT BACK FOR A 3RD SEASON)
LETHAL WEOPEN
STAR WARS LIVE ACTION TV SHOW
A CURRENT AFFAIR
BACK TO THE FUTURE LIVE ACTION TV SHOW
HALLOWEEN THE SERIES
FRIDAY THE 13TH THE SERIES (REVIVAL)
A NEW STAR TREK SERIES
ANIMATED CARTOONS :
HARRY POTTER THE ANIMATED SERIES
THE NEW ADVENTURES OF DICK TRACY
TROLLS
STRETCH ARMSTRONG
TOON TOWN
SPY KIDS THE ANIMATED SERIES
Nick Clooney, meaning George's father and Rosemary's brother.bpatrick said:Nick Clooney was on WCPO, then on WKRC; John Wade was on
WCPO. Clooney went on to become WKRC's "Eyewitness News" anchor;
Wade went to Atlanta for a time in 1975. But when Multimedia bought
WLWT, it phased out Braun's show (Dixon had died in the mid-'70s and
"Vivienne!" never really caught on), rechanneled that money into news,
and hired--guess?--Jerry Springer, who knocked Clooney out of the number-one
spot on Cincinnati local newscasts.
The same, and probably best remembered by many of you as host
of ABC's "The Money Maze" in 1974-75 or as a Robert Osborne-style
host, with Bob Dorian, on AMC.
Did John Wade eventually go to New York? I remember he was either
supposed to be, or occasionally was, a panelist on the 1980 Robin Ward
version of "To Tell The Truth."
of ABC's "The Money Maze" in 1974-75 or as a Robert Osborne-style
host, with Bob Dorian, on AMC.
Did John Wade eventually go to New York? I remember he was either
supposed to be, or occasionally was, a panelist on the 1980 Robin Ward
version of "To Tell The Truth."
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