Whats with this "Eagle" simulcast

[rbrucecarter5]

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[purpledevil]

So turn me in.

If Boz, or whoever is overseeing the boards here currently, is going to allow you to troll with your antiquated and unnecessary ramblings to basically send the Mexicans and their music back where they belong, then by God, I'm going to call you out on it.

You don't get away with the crap at Insight, and as long as I am perusing this site (and I don't have much of a choice since a lot of people have made the decision to abandon Lance and return here after he went above and beyond to give us a replacement, when this place unceremoniously kicked us all to the curb) I won't let you get away with it any longer.

We have all watched you do it to the D/FW boards, then you moved down here and started the same baiting bullcrap on our board. I've prayed about it, I've tried being civil towards you and talk to you on a man to man level, and other longtime members here have addressed it with you publicly, and*likely*privately, yet you keep on.

Get it straight, Bruce. The worst thing that this site can do is to ban me from participating, and quite frankly, I don't care if that occurs. Any site that would ban me for taking up for my wife's ethnic background and her right to speak Spanish in this country, or to listen to Spanish language radio stations in the city that she lives in and pays taxes in just like you do, while allowing you to freely spew such baiting and quite frankly racist remarks, such as "that foreign slop", "I don't speak foreign", and such, has a double standard and needs to close the doors back down again.

You don't want to be attacked? Simple solution. Quit attacking my family, because that's exactly how I take it. If you didn't realize it before, or didn't get that from the several conversations we've had, that's the bottom line.

As for the sarcastic responses, so everyone knows, they stop today. I'm tired of trying to be clever with my responses to your diatribe, and all it's doing is making your job easier. I mean, that's the intention, right? To disrupt the general flow of the conversation and turn the attention towards you? Your opinion and "expertise" is all that you care about and that really matters, right? It certainly doesn't matter to you that there are many hard working and class act people in this city that enjoy the programming of "La Ranchera", "La Raza", or "Estereo Latino". They are inhibiting you from hearing several damn classic hits stations that are some 100-200 miles away, so let's shut them all down!

You know, Robert, you proudly proclaim that you don't speak foreign, and I know why. You've spent all of your time learning how to speak ignorance.

I'm done. Moderator/Editor, do what you've got to do. I'll be over at Insight, and while it may be a little deader over there, but at least I know I won't click away from the site when I'm through, wishing I hadn't visited in the first place.

 

[frankberry]

I think that it's time for everyone to cool down.

 

[rbrucecarter5]

You know, Purpledevil - I have nothing but the highest regard for you. You might notice, I haven't responded to you in anger. I did not realize you took my comments about Spanish language broadcasting personally because your wife is Mexican. I do not intend them that way, nor any disrespect for your wife. I have a high regard for Hispanics. I am currently allowing a Mexican girl from Dallas to live with my family rent free while she saves money to start a life here. We have ended up the best of friends. She does NOT listen to Spanish language radio. She detests it - she likes KRBE. Her father is one of the finest men I have ever known - one of the few men I respect. We are good friends with Bella Thorne and her mom, she is also Latina. We are friends with Victoria Justice, her mom and her sister - Puerto Rican. It goes on and on - none of the Latina's we know listen to, or like Spanish language radio, although we know Selena Gomez and she did cover her name sake's song.

In spite of my tongue and cheeK "I don't speak foreign" - an equal opportunity blanket statement that I just don't pretend to be fluent in anything but English, I know enough Spanish to get by, mainly because I studied Latin in high school. Unfortunately, many of the Spanish conversations I hear around me are disrespectful gossip about nearby people, including me - assuming that we don't know what they are saying. That doesn't motivate me a lot to support bi-lingualism. English is the international language of commerce and science, and anybody without a thorough command of it is severely hampered in this world. If Spanish language radio is a way for people to preserve a culture in the midst of the United States, that is a good thing. Only the dull-witted would still think diversity is a bad thing. But if there is an attempt to enable a sub-culture of people who can't or won't learn English - then I really wonder if it is a good thing. Certainly, were I to move to Mexico, I would get really busy and learn Spanish as expediently as possible so I could fit into the society there. American used to be called the great "melting pot" where our culture was enriched as people from diverse backgrounds brought the best from their background and enriched the American experience as they contributed to the dominant American culture. I don't think there is a realistic expectation that the country should be a patchwork of little versions of foreign countries where the American outsiders should never venture.

I freely admit - I do not like some Spanish language radio. 101.7's music grates on my nerves. But then - opera grates on my nerves. Some country grates on my nerves. We all have different musical tastes, I don't think even you would expect that I should like every single format on the radio. You certainly don't. But I actually like and listen to Spanish language broadcasts on 580, 620, 780. I also like English broadcasts on 1220 and 1230 and 1490. You will notice something in common - they are playing music. Half of those frequencies are in Spanish, so I am hardly a bigot against all Spanish language broadcasting. That Mexican girl - she doesn't like or listen to even the real Mexican stations, by the way. But she loves country as well as top-40. Yes, I'd like a clear shot at an oldies / classic rock station. HD-2 on 104.1 and 107.5 is not reliable, and not all of my cars have HD radio. KLUV only works at home with a yagi pointed at Dallas. I am not the only one saying we got a format hole here in Houston. And if a Spanish language station is jamming an oldies / classic rock, I would be happy to see it go out of business. Why not? It doesn't serve me. It serves your wife - its not like she wouldn't have a whole bunch of other alternatives available, because everywhere I tune there is some Spanish language station. Or country station. Or talk station. Or sports station. I am equal opportunity - I wish any of them would flip to oldies / classic rock, none of them serve me or other oldies / classic rock fans. We aren't going to "flip" our tastes to accommodate what the owners want us to listen to.

I am reaching out in the spirit of friendship - we should meet and discuss our differences over a beer sometime rather than continue with misconceptions. We both love radio, we have that in common. In spite of our difference of opinion on the Spanish language - and Spanish language radio, we both like Hispanic people and have many ties with them. Surely two people with these things in common can communicate as friends and not adversaries.

 

[purpledevil]

I'd certainly accept your olive branch if I thought you were sincere. We had a similar conversation a year or so ago, with you saying that you didn't realize I, and others, were offended by the wording that you use.

Regardless, I'm going to accept your word. If you really think of me*in*a high regard, then please Bruce, as a favor to me personally, tone that stuff down.

Let's flow this water on under the bridge. I'm embarrassed that the two of us have destroyed a whole thread together, and I'm sure our fellow posters aren't real appreciative of it either.

 

[stan]

Stan, I noticed the spurs on KVLU went away when HD went away....I thought maybe it was me but a friend out of BTR, Paul Burt who used to be CE of CC New Orleans, noticed that he could hear KVLU on 89.9, 91.1, 91.5 and 91.9 as well as 91.3...Now, the spurs seem to be gone (along with the HD)....is anyone else running HD? I thought 92.5 and 95.1 were (since they are at the same tower site anyway)....I dont listen to 95.1 so I never hear the ID though I thought I have heard 92.5 ID their HD..

Upon further review, it appears the following HD2 and HD3 stations are currently on the air in Beaumont.

KVLU - HD, HD2, HD3
KCOL - HD, HD2
KKMY - HD, HD2

I'm surprised KIOC doesn't have a HD2.