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Whats with this "Eagle" simulcast

Agreed. If you are relying on ET and TMZ for news reporting, the quality you will receive is abysmal.

KCOL is not an oldies station. It is classic hits. No 50's, very limited 60's on KCOL's playlist.

True that. The first song played on KCOL was the Kingsmans' "Louie, Louie". For a time they played some music from the 50s and 60s, particularly when Caldwell did his show mid morning. Over time, the period of time shifted to more recent decades of music, where now the music is predominantly 70s and 80s (I keep thinking I hear a song or two from the 1990s occasionally). Most classic hits stations have done this, not just KCOL. When I think of the term 'oldies', I naturally think of 50s - 60s music, probably because of my age. Others might ask why the music of the 1930s and 40s is no longer on broadcast radio - my mother did when she was still living because those were the decades when she was young and when she was older wanted to hear the songs with which she was familiar. At some point, stations quit playing music with the formats such as the 'music of your life', or 'moribund music', or whatever title those of us reared on the Beatles would ascribe to that awful music of our parents. Now we're in the same generational predicament. Why are we surprised at this?

Oh, and by the way, the Eagle was NEVER "classic hits". That was a blatant lie from day one. Its always been a classic rock station.
 
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I would LOVE to see a Classic Hits radio station here in Houston. Beaumont-Port Arthur has KCOL-FM 92.5 and Lake Charles has KHLA-FM 92.9. As far as 106.9/107.5 here in Houston, the station sounds great and they really care about the music and the listener's feedback. The only negative that I dislike is the EAGLE branding. Here's an idea, KILT-FM 100.3 should drop the bull-shi* and change to a classic hits format. Will that happen? Probably not.
 
I used to listen to KVLU's HD streams but they disappeared, with no announcement as to why from the station. I thought it had to do with the renovations going on at their studios, but they will not respond to emails from their 'supporters'. Such is the state of radio in the Triangle - a train wreck much like that of Houston. I'd like to see some creativity and independence where someone would challenge the status quo or conventional thinking with respect to format / programming / live talent. I may be wanting to return to the 60s. Of course, I can always listen to Don Imus on Sirius XM.

Stan, I noticed the spurs on KVLU went away when HD went away....I thought maybe it was me but a friend out of BTR, Paul Burt who used to be CE of CC New Orleans, noticed that he could hear KVLU on 89.9, 91.1, 91.5 and 91.9 as well as 91.3...Now, the spurs seem to be gone (along with the HD)....is anyone else running HD? I thought 92.5 and 95.1 were (since they are at the same tower site anyway)....I dont listen to 95.1 so I never hear the ID though I thought I have heard 92.5 ID their HD..
 
Oh, Radiofan. You brought a tear to my eye with that comment. I'd just make one change to what you said. 100-3 was album rock in the Big 610 days, as you probably already know. Putting Classic Hits on 100-3 wouldn't really feel right to me, and likely others in my fine generation that grew up listening to Top 40 on KILT.

Have CBS move Sportsradio 610's format to the FM. You certainly wouldn't have a complaint from the Texans, they're already aired on the FM, and it would move their flagship home to a Senior Rd. signal. Then the music of the 70's & 80's can return to its longtime home of 610, picking up where it left off in 1981 when it changed to country.

I still hate "Urban Cowboy" for that.

Damn John Travolta, I liked you so much better when you were a disco dancing sweathog. :\
 
Oh, Radiofan. You brought a tear to my eye with that comment. I'd just make one change to what you said. 100-3 was album rock in the Big 610 days, as you probably already know. Putting Classic Hits on 100-3 wouldn't really feel right to me, and likely others in my fine generation that grew up listening to Top 40 on KILT.

Have CBS move Sportsradio 610's format to the FM. You certainly wouldn't have a complaint from the Texans, they're already aired on the FM, and it would move their flagship home to a Senior Rd. signal. Then the music of the 70's & 80's can return to its longtime home of 610, picking up where it left off in 1981 when it changed to country.

I still hate "Urban Cowboy" for that.

Damn John Travolta, I liked you so much better when you were a disco dancing sweathog. :\

We went from Top40 to disco to country in such a quick time (remember when Casey Kasem said on AT40, Disco is here to stay?? OOPS!)..Hell, Looking for Love and other Urban Cowboy songs made it to top40 stations (even Stevens and Pruett were playing it on KULF!)

As to returning music to KILT AM? nope...unless they ran CQUAM and it was readily available....most (though not all iirc) HD radios will decode CQUAM but they do in a narrow band mode..not wideband like AM stereo radios did in the 80s/90s which SOUND great!....I remember when KILT switched from Top40 to country....and wondered WTH??? Then KKBQ went from Rock40 to Country....and its been like that since..(Wait, lets back up..I was at KLVI when we went top40 to country...I hated that Sunday night..anyone want to guess the last top40 and 1st country song on KLVI??)...but lets face it, we are all getting old(er)....I hate to admit it...I dont feel my age and STILL love the top40 of the late 60s to mid 80s and even some 90s stuff...and the 25-54 demo is one that is sought after in radio...BUT the baby boomers are nearing the end of their run as for radio....though it will be hard to beat the music of our generation (though some of it never made sense...or now!).

As for Caldwell, I can only quote what Jack Piper said to me over lunch "they have to pry Al's dead body away from the mic...he WONT retire" Hell he is older than Jack!!!
 
I'll take a stab at it, CW.

Skeeter Davis's "End of the World" for the final Top 40 song on 56 KLVI?

"Ring of Fire", by Johnny Cash for the first country tune spun?

I mean, KLVI certainly fell into something when it went country, lol.
 
Hard to tell if some of this was tongue in cheek or not. I remember the day the music died on KILT 610. Or at least changed to country. As my radio was AM only, I heard country, and shut off KITL 610 for the last time. There were really no alternatives on AM.

I think AM oldies would do well - at least the content would be there - if the delivery method a bit poor. It certainly has a better chance than some of the wierd cobbled together formats that have been tried lately - urban Spanish gay sports polka or whatever. Oldies / classic hits is a glaring format hole that makes money in places as small as Beaumont - not to mention Dallas and San Antonio and New York and LA - need I go on? Why doesn't somebody just have the balls to do the obvious and fill a format hole and make money doing it?
 
Nothing tongue in cheek on my part. I disagree with CW wholeheartedly on this one.

All you have to do is mosey on up to 1230kHz and listen to KCOH.

It crackles when you drive under a power line, fades into oblivion when you find yourself under a freeway or in a parking garage, and as a 1 kilowatt graveyarder, barely makes it to the Beltway, day or night.

But by golly, it sure is nice to have those dusty R&B oldies still on the air in this fine metropolis, after 1430 was sold down the river.

610, alas, is in HD unlike KCOH. While it may sound a little narrow compared to the old days of wideband AM powerhouses, I'm certain that I'm not the only one that would sacrifice a little sound quality to return those golden Top 40 tunes of yesteryear, to the heritage home that helped make them famous in this market in the first place.

I'm not so sure I would be pushing us boomers out the door so quickly, if I were radio. The generations behind ours have already shown radio the door in droves. Who's going to be there to listen once they put our stuff out to pasture? They had us, when they turned away our parent's Sinatra and Bing Crosby favorites, to fall back on for listenership.

That luxury doesn't exist for the medium with our kids.

Stan, you nailed that one with a sledgehammer! The Eagle sure as hell wasn't classic hits, in any way, shape, or form. It was really glaring when you drove over to S.A. and heard Cox sister KONO and heard what the company was capable of in the classic hits arena.
 
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I keep forgetting about KCOH - local radio done RIGHT! I hope they continue to have success. What are the odds of having two good AM music stations side-by-side - Madisonville on 1220 and Houston on 1230!

610 hasn't been HD for a long time. Not that I care about that Mexican station on 620 or the weak whatever it is on 600, but they are both clear. No HD hash unless they started the HD blender this morning. I don't think even WTAW is HD any more. For the heck of it I tried yesterday on the Grand Parkway - power lines were pretty far away from the road, but I guess close enough to distort the field from the station. Or WTAW stopped HD. Either way I don't care, I don't listen to 610 or 1620.
 
Someone needs a heads up at CBS then. TOH for 610 is "KILT, KILT-HD, Houston."

I never had problems from 610's side hash. 790, on the other hand, was a nightmare when it was still on.

I haven't noticed if WTAW is still in HD or not. I'll give it a listen this weekend and find out.

Swerving this topic back out of the ditch, I'm pretty sure Cox is tremendously happy with the success of the KGLK/KHPT combo. Together, the two have eclipsed all efforts that either signal ever attained going solo...well except for The Buzz at 107-5, but that was a case of the right place, at the right time.

Hard to believe they would consider breaking it up and giving the competition an inroad to go head to head with them in the format. They've already nailed the coffin shut on 93-7, and why open the door for someone else to come in and steal away some thunder?
 
I'll take a stab at it, CW.

Skeeter Davis's "End of the World" for the final Top 40 song on 56 KLVI?

"Ring of Fire", by Johnny Cash for the first country tune spun?

I mean, KLVI certainly fell into something when it went country, lol.

Good try but not close

Last song as a top40 : American Pie (long version of course)
First song as country : Drop Kick Me Jesus Through the Goalpost of Life! (Yeah that was stepping in something)
 
Nothing tongue in cheek on my part. I disagree with CW wholeheartedly on this one.

All you have to do is mosey on up to 1230kHz and listen to KCOH.

It crackles when you drive under a power line, fades into oblivion when you find yourself under a freeway or in a parking garage, and as a 1 kilowatt graveyarder, barely makes it to the Beltway, day or night.

But by golly, it sure is nice to have those dusty R&B oldies still on the air in this fine metropolis, after 1430 was sold down the river.

610, alas, is in HD unlike KCOH. While it may sound a little narrow compared to the old days of wideband AM powerhouses, I'm certain that I'm not the only one that would sacrifice a little sound quality to return those golden Top 40 tunes of yesteryear, to the heritage home that helped make them famous in this market in the first place.

1230 actually sucks worse in its coverage than Purple alludes to...the folded monopole skirt at Ennis really sucks...(has ever since the tower was extended for 102.9 when Uncle Dave owned both)...At night, 1230 barely makes it to 610....at Beltway it is pretty well gone into the noise....this due to the ground system being screwed (thanks to batteries dumped at the site over a decade or more and no clean up)..Alas, KCOH sold because they needed the money.....and now on 1230, with worse coverage, will die sooner than later...

Sad but true.....Houston has outgrown a "backyard" channel
 
Stan, I noticed the spurs on KVLU went away when HD went away....I thought maybe it was me but a friend out of BTR, Paul Burt who used to be CE of CC New Orleans, noticed that he could hear KVLU on 89.9, 91.1, 91.5 and 91.9 as well as 91.3...Now, the spurs seem to be gone (along with the HD)....is anyone else running HD? I thought 92.5 and 95.1 were (since they are at the same tower site anyway)....I dont listen to 95.1 so I never hear the ID though I thought I have heard 92.5 ID their HD..

KCOL has a HD2 that plays newer music, although it shows up on my radio titled "Songs of the Season" whatever that means.
KKMY has a HD2 that carries the Comedy 24/7 channel for now - but CC is killing that off nationwide so we'll have some other crap they'll probably place there.
KIOC does not have a HD2, nor does KYKR.

None of the Cumulus stations have HD2 for any of their stations locally.
 
Well I actually recall the topics that were posted referencing Houston's lack of oldies/classic hits coverage from sometime back, ranging from KEYH slopover when KONO was available on 860 to the availability of KVNS during the nighttime hours depending on the wx conditions to an argument suggesting that if an AM signal became available for such, that some FM station can be easily flipped to the format by the bigcorps simply by flipping to the appropriate national day part programming........this remains a sad situation in this major market........damned if one takes up the format and damned if they kept choosing to look the other way........
 
How bad do the Arbitron/Neilson numbers have to be before a format change is necessary ?

Ratings seem to be relatively unimportant to corporate radio - the only measure that makes a difference to them is revenue from advertising. If they convince an advertiser that people are listening to the format, and the advertiser pays - the station can be playing anything and the format won't change. A good example is KFXR in Dallas. So bad almost nobody is listening. But they continue to sell commercials because it is a news talk station and of course people listen to news talk stations. Right?! It is owned by a major corporation and the successful stations they own can carry a wounded warrior for years if necessary until people discover the station and start listening. Right?!

Some corporate shirts decide to cobble together a format. Pick any two or three from the following list and create a new format: country / hip-hop / sports / Spanish / urban / top-40 / gay / conservative / liberal / gospel. You can even put them on pieces of paper and draw from a hat and that is the extent of corporate creativity. Got a new "creative" format? Great! Rely on high pressure sales staff, your reputation, getting some key advertisers drunk. Add in the promise of HD radio, and you have a "successful" new station - it doesn't matter if people actually listen or not. You could be broadcasting continuous farts for all management cares, as long as advertisers sign checks.

In the mean time, radio LISTENERS ask for smooth jazz, oldies / classic rock, etc. But the opinions of listeners are not important. Only the advertisers who sign checks to maintain this insanity.
 
Can someone give me some directions to this "gay" format on my dial?
 
CC burdened itself with 1190 KFXR in Dallas because Lowry Mays (then the big boss at CC) wanted to hear Aggie football in Dallas....the spent $18 mill or so on that station has never been recouped...and likely never will (its been over 13 years now!) The land at the Rockwall night site could probably be sold for a good amount...but the day site, being next to a dump, wont go for anything...plus add in the cost of operating (power for transmitters and tower lights), taxes, grass cutting, etc. I am surprised CC hasn't turned it off and returned the license..All it does now is carry a lot of Premiere syndicated shows...
 
Thanks, stan, lol. :D

I wasn't actually looking for the format, only pointing out more flub being posted from the Doctor of Carterology.

Picking formats out of a hat.... (in my best Dr. Evil voice)...riiiiiiiiight.... :|
 
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