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Well, another week has passed. Looks like everyone is over debating the news/talk segment of the market?
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Tennessee Cowboy
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TnJanitor said:Well, another week has passed. Looks like everyone is over debating the news/talk segment of the market?
Yep, TJ. The debate was fun while it lasted. Now nobody's fired up any more. There's plenty to talk about, but too many of 'em are more worried about their mortgages these days.
/And lest we forget, we're still at Defcon Meh
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Tennessee Cowboy
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If WNOX is interested in making a few extra bucks, they could probably sell webcam access when Tim Burchett's wife goes on again.
But, it could get interesting again. Did I hear 100.3 WNOX actually doing local headlines following a Fox newscast yesterday. If 'NOX actually takes off and runs with that type of stuff (yeah, I know it's costly to staff a local news crew) it could get really interesting. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Dudes! The bonding agent apparently knows more about radio advertising than some of the (quote) experts (quote) on this board, Dog. Which class of white-collar, high-dollar professionals listens to talk radio AND interacts with incarcerated citizens?
Uh...do you thank it might be [size=10pt][/size]lawyers? Wish this keyboard had a "DUH" key.
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Dudes! The bonding agent apparently knows more about radio advertising than some of the (quote) experts (quote) on this board, Dog. Which class of white-collar, high-dollar professionals listens to talk radio AND interacts with incarcerated citizens?
Uh...do you thank it might be [size=10pt][/size]lawyers? Wish this keyboard had a "DUH" key.
U kno-o-o-w-w what I LIKE!
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(As Lt. Colombo would say..."There is one other thing that bothers me....")
When three county officials were told to resign or be fired, 100.3 devoted a show to it one day before the KNS gave it page one play. They had their hosts, the incoming Mayor, his chief of staff and political watchdog Louis Cosbie on the air for an hour or so the day before KNS published it.
This is a major story about severance pay that will impact every taxpayer and resident of Knox County.
Anyone else notic that this story broke before showing up in the paper, or is this board exclusively about audio levels, automation, drum processing, image voices and the price of eggs in New Market. That sort of stuff may be fun for some of us, but the thing to keep your eyes on is c-o-n-t-e-n-t and how the competing newsies do their job of informing the public. Or, am I wrong? (HHH was discussing monkeys and chimpanzees on the day in question, BTW).
When three county officials were told to resign or be fired, 100.3 devoted a show to it one day before the KNS gave it page one play. They had their hosts, the incoming Mayor, his chief of staff and political watchdog Louis Cosbie on the air for an hour or so the day before KNS published it.
This is a major story about severance pay that will impact every taxpayer and resident of Knox County.
Anyone else notic that this story broke before showing up in the paper, or is this board exclusively about audio levels, automation, drum processing, image voices and the price of eggs in New Market. That sort of stuff may be fun for some of us, but the thing to keep your eyes on is c-o-n-t-e-n-t and how the competing newsies do their job of informing the public. Or, am I wrong? (HHH was discussing monkeys and chimpanzees on the day in question, BTW).
Big you need to go back to school and spruce up on your spelling. I think it is Louis Crosby.
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Tennessee Cowboy
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Could we be starting to have some Leno v. Letterman-style morning show booking competition? These stations ought to be careful. They may start generating audiences if they're not careful.
It'd be really nice if 100.3 had a deal with Pilot for free coffee while the accountants are on. Morning drive? Glad my grandkids are in school then. It'd be scary if someone fell asleep while driving and listening to that stuff.
It'd be really nice if 100.3 had a deal with Pilot for free coffee while the accountants are on. Morning drive? Glad my grandkids are in school then. It'd be scary if someone fell asleep while driving and listening to that stuff.
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Cueburned
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Hey, I remember Louie Crosley! He made radios and refrigerators and even a little bitty car and a small obscure 500,000 watter up North somewhere.
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boogiecheck
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Still under. Monday HHH was live and in person while Ed & Bob were airing Fox News.
It may be too late for 100.3 to get its act together. Big stick or not they're really sounding small market.
It may be too late for 100.3 to get its act together. Big stick or not they're really sounding small market.
[Still under. Monday HHH was live and in person while Ed & Bob were airing Fox News. It may be too late for 100.3 to get its act together. Big stick or not they're really sounding small market. /quote]
Are you sure HHH was live? I turned on both stations to see if either was live, and heard what I thought was a holiday special on 100.3 (probably the "Fox News" you mentioned) and a "best of" on 98.7.
Granted, I only listened to each for about 30 seconds, so maybe I missed it if old "crown and scepter" was live.
And about a small market sound, what do you think K-town is, New York City? It IS a small market, Dawg!
Big Bopper said:And about a small market sound, what do you think K-town is, New York City? It IS a small market, Dawg!
None of the other stations in town sound like they're being broadcast from the inside of a tin can.
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Big Bopper said:Are you sure HHH was live? I turned on both stations to see if either was live, and heard what I thought was a holiday special on 100.3 (probably the "Fox News" you mentioned) and a "best of" on 98.7.
Granted, I only listened to each for about 30 seconds, so maybe I missed it if old "crown and scepter" was live.
And about a small market sound, what do you think K-town is, New York City? It IS a small market, Dawg!
HHH was live. And even if it was a "best of" that is no excuse for a scrappy newcomer to take the day off and
lounge around in a favorite pair of Hush Puppies. 100.3 needs to take it to the airwaves and chip away at what is
fast becoming a much larger fight than first though.
BRice16 said:None of the other stations in town sound like they're being broadcast from the inside of a tin can.
Agreed.
OK.....here it is...straight from the horse's mouth. It was necessary to get WNOX on the air in a VERY short period of time. Sign on day came with a bare minimum of equipment SOMEWHAT up and running. There was NO time for smoke testing prior to going on air. Not an ideal situation, but that's just the way it was. Now that the station is up and running the task of getting everything up to par is tantamount to replacing the crankshaft in a running engine.
The "tin can" analogy is getting old. There has been NO time yet to devote to correcting the control room acoustics.
Bottom line is this, the remaining problems CAN and WILL be corrected over time. For the other guys, unfortunately, there's little if anything that can be done to correct their problems. And the crappy audio they are currently putting out will only cause listener fatigue resulting in additional tune outs from the average listener who can't really tell you why they just pushed the channel button, aside from the superior programming on WNOX.
The "tin can" analogy is getting old. There has been NO time yet to devote to correcting the control room acoustics.
Bottom line is this, the remaining problems CAN and WILL be corrected over time. For the other guys, unfortunately, there's little if anything that can be done to correct their problems. And the crappy audio they are currently putting out will only cause listener fatigue resulting in additional tune outs from the average listener who can't really tell you why they just pushed the channel button, aside from the superior programming on WNOX.
Radioceo said:OK.....here it is...straight from the horse's mouth. It was necessary to get WNOX on the air in a VERY short period of time. Sign on day came with a bare minimum of equipment SOMEWHAT up and running. There was NO time for smoke testing prior to going on air. Not an ideal situation, but that's just the way it was. Now that the station is up and running the task of getting everything up to par is tantamount to replacing the crankshaft in a running engine.
The "tin can" analogy is getting old. There has been NO time yet to devote to correcting the control room acoustics.
Bottom line is this, the remaining problems CAN and WILL be corrected over time. For the other guys, unfortunately, there's little if anything that can be done to correct their problems. And the crappy audio they are currently putting out will only cause listener fatigue resulting in additional tune outs from the average listener who can't really tell you why they just pushed the channel button, aside from the superior programming on WNOX.
I don't think anyone here has questioned that there was a short turnaround to get the station on the air. Certainly, I think everyone expected some problems on launch.
On your second point, it may be "getting old" but it's still a fact. When your remote broadcasts sound noticeably better than the studio broadcasts (and it sticks out even more when the talent interacts with the producer back at the studio), then you have a serious problem.
Your third point just doesn't make sense on a couple of different levels. First, I don't think the "crappy audio" that you refer to is noticeable. It's not to me, but I rarely listen to 98.7, so I can only speak for 99.1, for which I have noticed no difference.
I don't think that there is superior programming on WNOX in any daypart. I don't like Rush at all, but even he is less of a one-trick pony than Dave Ramsey. Hal has a very loyal following. As far as afternoons, WNOX is trying to compete against two strong shows in Phil Williams and SportsTalk. I don't thing the weak "The Drive" is anywhere close to on par with either, and based on the amount of begging they do for calls without receiving any, I think the listeners agree.
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Superior programming is a matter of opinion. As for the audio discussion, here's my opinion. The "distorted" audio on the sports dino or WOKI is no different than its ever been, since the advent of audio processors with "presets", news-talk settings have been designed to have the same "punch" on FM as their AM counterparts, as in bandwidth restriction. IMO, 100.3 sounds like a bright, clear FM station, as they should with their signal. Most of the audio critics on this board are totally in left field, probably burnout dj's, pd's, etc from the days of the cbs volumax, or the BL-40.
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Tennessee Cowboy
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Not much opportunity to listen to the 100.3 morning show on a good radio. The out-of-market shows sound OK. If it's just during the local shows, too much mid = hollow.
Maybe they ought to consider doing an in-studio show using the remote equipment and compare the difference.
Maybe they ought to consider doing an in-studio show using the remote equipment and compare the difference.
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TnJanitor
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Sounds like they're using a broadband codec on remote or a super clean, wideband RPU, however, their studio sounds "old school" as in zero pre-processing.
BRice16,
You have no problem with crappy audio on the Citadel stations, but let some crappy audio show up on WNOX and it becomes a BIG DEAL!
And for someone who seems to detest the programming on WNOX you seem to be putting in a lot of time listening.
I think you've just outed yourself as a Citadel water carrier. But some of us had that figured out long ago anyway.
You have no problem with crappy audio on the Citadel stations, but let some crappy audio show up on WNOX and it becomes a BIG DEAL!
And for someone who seems to detest the programming on WNOX you seem to be putting in a lot of time listening.
I think you've just outed yourself as a Citadel water carrier. But some of us had that figured out long ago anyway.
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