Where is the Center

[Small Market Guy]

Not a shred of truth? Pull your head out of the sand, friend. I deal with these scumbags on a daily basis and the off air comments they make are downright heinous. Hell, they even ran a racist horse-porn fan for Gov of NY a few years ago!

http://wnymedia.net/paladino/

You continue to defend that crowd? Shame on you. Shame, shame on you.

Apparently you never heard of Internet trolls. To claim that is what the Tea Party is about is absolutely dishonest. You don't see me associating liberal talk hosts with some of the disgusting things Internet trolls say on their behalf. Just look at the response Stacey Dash got when she recently signed with Fox News.

http://www.wtam.com/onair/bob-frantz-2693/black-community-and-tolerant-left-brutally-12415171

And you're acting just like them. So shame on you.

 

[flybynight]

Apparently you never heard of Internet trolls. To claim that is what the Tea Party is about is absolutely dishonest. You don't see me associating liberal talk hosts with some of the disgusting things Internet trolls say on their behalf. Just look at the response Stacey Dash got when she recently signed with Fox News.

http://www.wtam.com/onair/bob-frantz-2693/black-community-and-tolerant-left-brutally-12415171

And you're acting just like them. So shame on you.

It's nice that you just dismiss them as "internet trolls", instead of living, breathing racist scumbags who feel comfortable expressing their REAL views online under the cloak of anonymity.

Many of those same living, breathing people also call in to radio stations and even get on the air, depending on how irresponsible a host/screener is.

But it's all make-believe. It doesn't really happen. The tea party fosters such goodness.

Unreal.

Oh, and nice link to a wingnut spin machine.

 

[Small Market Guy]

Oh, and nice link to a wingnut spin machine.

It's a RADIO STATION. THAT LINKS TO A BLACK WAR HERO'S BLOG.

You really are despicably dishonest.

 

[flybynight]

It's a RADIO STATION. THAT LINKS TO A BLACK WAR HERO'S BLOG.

You really are despicably dishonest.

I was referring to the guy linking to it, and you know it, you disingenuous clod. By the way, that "black war hero" is an imbecile. One time he even claimed to have higher security clearance than the President. Real winner there. Speaking of "winning", when he lost his election, he refused to concede for quite a while. Just a jerk. But the right loves him because he's another black conservative they can point to and say "see, black people like us!" So transparent.

Fact is, you continue to defend a group that is a disgrace to this country with their reckless and racist behavior. You're making a fool of yourself over this.

Quite an insight into your mentality.

 

[Small Market Guy]

I was referring to the guy linking to it, and you know it, you disingenuous clod.

Fact is, you continue to defend a group that is a disgrace to this country with their reckless and racist behavior.

Quite an insight into your mentality.

My mentality isn't to judge an entire group by the actions of online idiots. Your mentality is to obviously smear anyone you disagree with with false accusations of racism.

Since you obviously dismiss sources that you disagree with, here's actual proof of REAL racism from the left re: Stacey Dash.

Using your logic I'd label everyone on the left as a racist. But I'm not going to do that.

Oh and here's more.

http://twitchy.com/2013/08/28/shut-...lk-jr-gets-attacked-for-calling-blacks-negro/

http://twitchy.com/2014/06/05/does-...lliam-shatner-discovers-stacey-dash-fan-club/

http://twitchy.com/2012/11/15/video...view-viewers-hurl-more-racist-sexist-attacks/

Shall I continue?

One more question: Is Allen West a racist? Dr. Ben Carson?

 

[flybynight]

My mentality isn't to judge an entire group by the actions of online idiots. Your mentality is to obviously smear anyone you disagree with with false accusations of racism.

Since you obviously dismiss sources that you disagree with, here's actual proof of REAL racism from the left re: Stacey Dash.

Using your logic I'd label everyone on the left as a racist. But I'm not going to do that.

Oh and here's more.

http://twitchy.com/2013/08/28/shut-...lk-jr-gets-attacked-for-calling-blacks-negro/

http://twitchy.com/2014/06/05/does-...lliam-shatner-discovers-stacey-dash-fan-club/

http://twitchy.com/2012/11/15/video...view-viewers-hurl-more-racist-sexist-attacks/

Shall I continue?

One more question: Is Allen West a racist? Dr. Ben Carson?

You again dismiss them as "online idiots". They're actual living, breathing Americans who are saying that crap, and they far outnumber the Stacy Dash! Stacy Dash! ZOMG! crowd you are so outraged over.

There are YEARS of forums filled with the most vile, racist garbage directed at this President---and it ain't coming from the left.

Keep playing your little game. Most Americans know what's going on.

 

[Small Market Guy]

You again dismiss them as "online idiots". They're actual living, breathing Americans who are saying that crap, and they far outnumber the Stacy Dash! Stacy Dash! ZOMG! crowd you are so outraged over.

BS. Absolute BS. There is absolutely NO proof of anything you are saying. NOT A BIT.

I bet you still believe those absolute lies about tea party members spitting on congressmen.

Answer the question. Is Allen West a racist? Dr. Ben Carson? Alan Keyes? Are they racist?

 

[TheBigA]

This is going nowhere.

 

[Small Market Guy]

This is going nowhere.

Of course it's going nowhere. This thread never had a chance of being productive here. It wasn't meant to go anywhere.

 

[boombox4]

The thread may be a prime example of political discourse in America today. There's just a lot of polarization.

 

[flybynight]

BS. Absolute BS. There is absolutely NO proof of anything you are saying. NOT A BIT.

I bet you still believe those absolute lies about tea party members spitting on congressmen.

Answer the question. Is Allen West a racist? Dr. Ben Carson? Alan Keyes? Are they racist?

"See, we have black people! We have black people!"

You're shameless.

I gave you too much credit. As it turns out, you really are just another hyper-partisan wingnut, constantly making excuses for the indefensible and inexcusable. Shame on you.

I witness vile, racist behavior from your crowd on a daily basis and there's terabytes of evidence all over the net...but that's not real, right? It was all created by phantoms, right? Wow. Just, wow. Head in sand? Check.

Your denial of this is extremely telling. You kept insisting that you were above the fray and were someone who was fair, but only sold out to be a conservative host at one point because that's what the job was (which really shows your degree of integrity, btw), but finally we really get to see your true colors, and as per usual with your crowd, it ain't pretty.

Your dishonesty is truly stunning.

 

[Avid Listener]

For the sake of my sanity, I have taken further advantage of this forum's incredibly useful "ignore" function. This saves me from the moral dilemma of having to decide whether or not to violate one of my fundamental principles of never tattling to a moderator about any other post, no matter how egregious, and the responsibility to stand up to cyber-bullies who throw around false accusations and damn lies. I'm simply ignoring the rants of the damn liars and trolls who make vile and disgusting false accusations.

 

[JeffM]

I'm simply ignoring the rants of the damn liars and trolls who make vile and disgusting false accusations.

Which ones?

 

[flybynight]

Which ones?

Uh, that would be everyone who disagrees with his hyper-partisan rhetoric. These people will look at a blue sky and insist that it's green. What a crew. lol

 

[JeffM]

Uh, that would be everyone who disagrees with his hyper-partisan rhetoric. These people will look at a blue sky and insist that it's green. What a crew. lol

Actually, that wasn't necessary, fbn. It's much easier (and more fun) to just sit back and watch your adversaries dig themselves into a hole. So relax.

 

[frankberry]

It's fine to disagree. A good, healthy debate can be interesting to read in this, a public forum.
Please don't let it get out of hand with name-calling and personal attacks.

 

[Small Market Guy]

"See, we have black people! We have black people!"

Answer the question. You claim everyone associated with the tea party is racist. How does that align with people that aren't white that are associated with the tea party? Are they racist?

You keep making these claims without a SHRED of evidence. I've produced evidence to prove my point. Where's yours?

You can make all the attacks you want, but the only one being dishonest here is you. The only one making personal attacks is YOU.

One more point. The tea party isn't "my crowd". I don't even vote. I've never donated to a politician and I don't go to rallies. I'm not even registered to vote in my state.

The reason I defend them is because you are LYING about good and decent people. YOU ARE LYING. Get that through your thick skull. LYING. LYING. YOU ARE LYING.

 

[Small Market Guy]

For the sake of my sanity, I have taken further advantage of this forum's incredibly useful "ignore" function. This saves me from the moral dilemma of having to decide whether or not to violate one of my fundamental principles of never tattling to a moderator about any other post, no matter how egregious, and the responsibility to stand up to cyber-bullies who throw around false accusations and damn lies. I'm simply ignoring the rants of the damn liars and trolls who make vile and disgusting false accusations.

It's a shame, that guy actually contributed some decent discussion for a while until he went straight off the despicable hate deep end. So yeah, he's on the block list now, too. If there's one thing I can't abide it's a liar.

 

[flybynight]

Answer the question. You claim everyone associated with the tea party is racist. How does that align with people that aren't white that are associated with the tea party? Are they racist?

You keep making these claims without a SHRED of evidence. I've produced evidence to prove my point. Where's yours?

You can make all the attacks you want, but the only one being dishonest here is you. The only one making personal attacks is YOU.

One more point. The tea party isn't "my crowd". I don't even vote. I've never donated to a politician and I don't go to rallies. I'm not even registered to vote in my state.

The reason I defend them is because you are LYING about good and decent people. YOU ARE LYING. Get that through your thick skull. LYING. LYING. YOU ARE LYING.

You forgot "liar, liar, pants on fire, neener, neener, neener"

Where did I say "EVERYONE" in the tea party is a racist? Where? Do show us. You won't be able to, because I never said that.

Who's lying now?

Whenever I do give you evidence, you just ignore it anyway, like that link to the story of Carl Palladino who's the racist pig that ran for Gov of NY and got LOTS of tea party support. Still does. You don't care to even look into that because you just don't want to know.

Your incredible lack of perception regarding the tea party movement speaks volumes about how poorly informed you are. Thank God you don't vote. If we could only now stop you from reproducing.

 

[Avid Listener]

It's fine to disagree. A good, healthy debate can be interesting to read in this, a public forum.
Please don't let it get out of hand with name-calling and personal attacks.

If you'd be more specific about what is and what is not "name calling", I think there would be a lot less confusion over what you mean by "name calling". I have been accused of being a racist. Is that "name calling"?

Or, if we catch someone telling a bald-faced lie, and we therefore accurately say, "You have lied. Therefore, you are a liar.", is that "name calling" or is that simply making a truthful observation?