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where is the fcc when u need them

when i first heard about 945 all i heard on this topic was HOW TOUGH THE FCC IS ON PIRATES IN GA/////and it seems like no one really knows the answer,am i right u all have no clue to the rules on pirate radio operators in ga am i right or what,maybe a true radio person can answer this u think///// 94.5 has been on 1 month and nonthing is happening as for our fcc to shut them down/////// yess our fcc .......... :)
 
I, too, must be labeled criminal!
Ghandi taught us that civil disobedience was/is the most humane course to change unjust laws. Dr. Martin Luther King used polical disobedience to change American attitudes and laws regarding civil rights.....not just for African-Americans, but for ALL people.
Remember....we are not a "democracy" as so many of us have been taught by duplicitous government educators. We are a constitutional republic....meaning our system is based on a constitution providing fundamental rights and protection of those rights to all. And sometimes, the "majority" does not allow adequate protection for the rights of all people. The whole purpose of the judicial branch of our government is to put in place checks and balances to the "will" of the majority.
Now....the constitution does not give any person "the right" to operate a radio station. The radio spectrum is finite.....after it's gone...it's gone! But how can anyone argue that the spectrum is used fairly or wisely? What is the justification for a small group of wealthy people to control virtually all the radio spectrum?
So when it comes to "sharing" the spectrum.....I'm an advocate. And,I guess, a criminal at heart! I do advocate breaking laws, if necessary, to change the law!
(Thank goodness I have no reputation to protect....flame on....I can't afford a lawyer!)
But I still think it is unwise to open the floodgates for pirate operators. As I posted before....the bands would soon be unusable for anyone. Besides....as Og pointed out.....most of these guys are only trying to make money....they do not represent an attempt to genuinely serve the public....they are really just more of the same.....only the money is going in a different pocket.
Middlega is wrong on this one!(And I say that rarely about Middlega!!) And if the programming is compelling....people WILL listen.
Problem is......most of our leaders are not very compelling!
 
taylorengineer said:
I do advocate breaking laws, if necessary, to change the law!

That would indeed appear to be where we part company quite thoroughly.

Middlega is wrong on this one!(And I say that rarely about Middlega!!)

FWIW, I wasn't real happy at the realization of how far apart we were on this myself.
Rather disturbed by it if you care to know the truth.

And if the programming is compelling....people WILL listen. Problem is......most of our leaders are not very compelling!

The issue of pirates aside here, turning to the LPFM sidebar, you're hitting on where I have an enormous inability to get worked up on this particular issue. In plainest language, there's no shortage of crappy radio stations already & I simply can't understand a motivation to create more of them.

Your phrasing here hits on something (probably more sociological than radio) that I think comes to the crux of the matter, at least when it comes to the notion of LPFM's as some sort of "community service" -- people are not generally compelled by what might be loftily described as "important stuff". There's already a shortage of people qualified/capable/willing to handle local government, trying to put them in the radio business is an unrealistic expectation that's doomed before it begins. (heck, I don't beleive there are enough capable people in the radio/media business to manage the stations that already exist).

I'd say the same largely holds true if you take government out of contention & turn to, I don't know what phrasing fits best here, let's say "non-governmental community leaders" -- virtually every one I've ever encountered has an agenda that's at least as self-serving as it is selfless (and I'm being quite generous by counting many of them as even 50/50). And as such, even if I optimistically say their interests & mine match half the time, I'm not moved by the notion of putting them on the air either. Among the most obvious handicaps they would face is the limitation of time that we all must endure -- there's only 24 hours in every day for anybody. And if we're looking at "the greater good" as a motivation, I'm far from convinced that the best use of time for those few who might truly be capable of "leading" is worrying with producing content for an LPFM that seems almost certain to reach fewer people than could be reached by any of the methods they already employ (or by sticking their head out the car window & yelling their message to people on the street for that matter).

In short (yeah, too late for that, I know), I'm not steadfastly opposed to some method that would suddenly multiply the number of LPFM's, I just can't see getting worked up over the prospect because I see it as having virtually zero impact in any positive way.
 
We shall agree to disagree on the issue of civil disobedience. I do respect the law but I respect human rights more. I can't see why you find this "troubling!"
Why should ClearChannel, Cox, and Cumulus get to own ALL the crappy radio stations??
 
Well said, TaylorEngineer. My thoughts exactly, you just have a better way with words than I do.


I, too, must be labeled criminal!
Ghandi taught us that civil disobedience was/is the most humane course to change unjust laws. Dr. Martin Luther King used polical disobedience to change American attitudes and laws regarding civil rights.....not just for African-Americans, but for ALL people.
Remember....we are not a "democracy" as so many of us have been taught by duplicitous government educators. We are a constitutional republic....meaning our system is based on a constitution providing fundamental rights and protection of those rights to all. And sometimes, the "majority" does not allow adequate protection for the rights of all people. The whole purpose of the judicial branch of our government is to put in place checks and balances to the "will" of the majority.
Now....the constitution does not give any person "the right" to operate a radio station. The radio spectrum is finite.....after it's gone...it's gone! But how can anyone argue that the spectrum is used fairly or wisely? What is the justification for a small group of wealthy people to control virtually all the radio spectrum?
So when it comes to "sharing" the spectrum.....I'm an advocate. And,I guess, a criminal at heart! I do advocate breaking laws, if necessary, to change the law!
(Thank goodness I have no reputation to protect....flame on....I can't afford a lawyer!)
But I still think it is unwise to open the floodgates for pirate operators. As I posted before....the bands would soon be unusable for anyone. Besides....as Og pointed out.....most of these guys are only trying to make money....they do not represent an attempt to genuinely serve the public....they are really just more of the same.....only the money is going in a different pocket.
Middlega is wrong on this one!(And I say that rarely about Middlega!!) And if the programming is compelling....people WILL listen.
Problem is......most of our leaders are not very compelling!
 
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Secondly, as I said in another post.. I do NOT adovcate piracy, but if they arent interfering with anyone else's signal.. their audio is clean, language is good... it's not top on the FCC priority list of "Things To Do Today"


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Don't be to surprised if these pirates wind up with a licensed station. The FCC likes to bring
rule-breakers into compliance.

That means get them licensed.

I know many licensed stations that started with a pirate history. Remember the guy who had the boat
off the coast of New York City. You can hear him every night with his licensed international short wave station-WBCQ.

And concerning civil disobedience, our country has a long history of that too. Ever heard of the Boston Tea Party.
Not sorry about that either.
 
Mr Weiner, in addition to having Shortwave WBCQ... owns WEGP 1390 thats 10KW Day/5KW Night with a CP to go to 50KW Day/10KW night but the stations is for sale.
 
Then there's Bruce Quinn in Indiana who owned WKLU in Indianapolis. After they gave him a license,
he called himself-Bruce The Radio Pirate on the air.

There's Bill Spry in Cincinnati who recently got an FM license. And don't forget Radio Free Brattleboro
in Vermont. I hear they have a license for more power now, than they had in pirate days.
 
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