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Which Defunct LA radio stations deserve a second chance?
- Thread starter recto101
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It would be fun if there were a station able to play nothing but old, unscoped airchecks of classic Southern California radio station.
Then we would always have a place to go on the dial to those times that will never come back.
Then we would always have a place to go on the dial to those times that will never come back.
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BJordan...how old are you again? You remember B100? Im partial to B100...it was my first real paying gig. Got to hang out in the studio in the afternoon, and then go to the Clubs at night and get paid!! It was short lived, but was hella fun. Here is the lineup I remember. (12/96-12/97)BJordan said:
Mornings: Gary Spears, Patty Lotz, and Wankus (Jimmy Reyes from Hot 92.3 Morning Show was the intern!)
Mid-Days: Leigh Anne Adams ...DJ Tazmanian Tim (he loves to SPIN...add SFX here!) with the Lunch Time Mix
Afternoon: Joe "The Boomer" Servantez....DJ Louis Love with the Bump And Drive @ 5 (mix show)
Nights: Jammin Jeff Scott
Late Night: Rick Hummer and Chaka Khan
Overnight: i believe it was Tommy Banda (and he was live in the studio).
Weekends: Benny Martinez, Nino Perez, Christy Duran...
and at the reigns...Tony Coles as PD, and Carmy Ferreri as MD.
Great group of professionals.
The trouble with all this is that there are reasons every one of those stations isn't around today. Changing demographics and ethnicity, the virtual abandonment of the AM dial, and the death of key players are the big ones.
The fact is that the stations that survive today have far more impressive track records than the legends we miss.
Consider:
KIIS-FM has been the CHR leader for 30 years.
KOST has been the dominant AC for 30 years.
KRTH is coming up on 20 years as a strong Classic Hits station.
KFI is 23 years in as a monster talk station.
Power 106 has been the dominant rhythmic CHR for 25 years.
KROQ's still strong after 32 years doing what's now called alternative.
The Wave is 24 years old.
KNX has been all-news for 43 years.
Compare that with the legends:
KFWB: 10 years in Top 40, dominant for 5 of those.
KHJ: 15 years in Top 40, dominant for 14 of those.
KMET: 19 years as an album rocker, dominant for only a handful (1977-1980).
KMPC: 20 years as a full service personality MOR, followed by 8 years of declining ratings as a full service Adult Contemporary.
They were all great stations. But the stations on the air right now deserve a lot more credit for their position and longevity than they get.
The fact is that the stations that survive today have far more impressive track records than the legends we miss.
Consider:
KIIS-FM has been the CHR leader for 30 years.
KOST has been the dominant AC for 30 years.
KRTH is coming up on 20 years as a strong Classic Hits station.
KFI is 23 years in as a monster talk station.
Power 106 has been the dominant rhythmic CHR for 25 years.
KROQ's still strong after 32 years doing what's now called alternative.
The Wave is 24 years old.
KNX has been all-news for 43 years.
Compare that with the legends:
KFWB: 10 years in Top 40, dominant for 5 of those.
KHJ: 15 years in Top 40, dominant for 14 of those.
KMET: 19 years as an album rocker, dominant for only a handful (1977-1980).
KMPC: 20 years as a full service personality MOR, followed by 8 years of declining ratings as a full service Adult Contemporary.
They were all great stations. But the stations on the air right now deserve a lot more credit for their position and longevity than they get.
michael hagerty said:
That is the truth.
Why we remember the stations no longer here, we really should appreciate we still have several of the same stations.
If, by some means or another, 93/KHJ was still around today, many people would no doubt blast it for changing and not being the 93/KHJ they grew up with. Hell, even in the late 1970s I heard more than a few people grumble that when they tuned to 93/KHJ, "it not the Boss Radio I grew up with."
I think that is the big issue for some listeners with our current legacy stations. Well the reality is for these legendary stations to remain successful and dominate they must adapt to changing times and treads (except KABC
).Let's not forget KKBT 92.3 The Beat LA's Home For Hip Hop & R&B successful during the 90's and early 2000's. I grew up with KKBT's hip hop sound and hated it when it went Urban AC and really hated it when KDAY was renamed 93.5 The Beat and was housing those syndicated shows and bought back the old piece sign logo and the famous slogan No Color Lines. The Beat kept the same format for 15 years until 2006. I saw it coming when KKBT changed their slogan from "the people's station, don't get it twisted" to "The R&B of Hip Hop" in 2006.
The trouble with all this is that there are reasons every one of those stations isn't around today. Changing demographics and ethnicity, the virtual abandonment of the AM dial, and the death of key players are the big ones.
The fact is that the stations that survive today have far more impressive track records than the legends we miss.
Consider:
KIIS-FM has been the CHR leader for 30 years.
KOST has been the dominant AC for 30 years.
KRTH is coming up on 20 years as a strong Classic Hits station.
KFI is 23 years in as a monster talk station.
Power 106 has been the dominant rhythmic CHR for 25 years.
KROQ's still strong after 32 years doing what's now called alternative.
The Wave is 24 years old.
KNX has been all-news for 43 years.
Compare that with the legends:
KFWB: 10 years in Top 40, dominant for 5 of those.
KHJ: 15 years in Top 40, dominant for 14 of those.
KMET: 19 years as an album rocker, dominant for only a handful (1977-1980).
KMPC: 20 years as a full service personality MOR, followed by 8 years of declining ratings as a full service Adult Contemporary.
They were all great stations. But the stations on the air right now deserve a lot more credit for their position and longevity than they get.[/b
I agree too. KJLH has been around for 30 years as long they play urban music ill still contiune to listen. Who cares about the direction they are still on the air. Im from KC radio sucks there big time. Country and Rock are your only choices only a handful of CHR, Urban and AC stations. Our LA stations are owned by major corperations so the playlist are tight and the dj's have little play compared to the 80's and 90's. San Dieago radio sucks too so we I say we are better off. Just because what you hear in other markets doesnt mean it will work in LA. How many times Rythnmic AC was tried here in this town and it never took off. They wouldnt give it time to grow. But back to what I was saying radio here is fine. There are other sources of music now to choose from.
The fact is that the stations that survive today have far more impressive track records than the legends we miss.
Consider:
KIIS-FM has been the CHR leader for 30 years.
KOST has been the dominant AC for 30 years.
KRTH is coming up on 20 years as a strong Classic Hits station.
KFI is 23 years in as a monster talk station.
Power 106 has been the dominant rhythmic CHR for 25 years.
KROQ's still strong after 32 years doing what's now called alternative.
The Wave is 24 years old.
KNX has been all-news for 43 years.
Compare that with the legends:
KFWB: 10 years in Top 40, dominant for 5 of those.
KHJ: 15 years in Top 40, dominant for 14 of those.
KMET: 19 years as an album rocker, dominant for only a handful (1977-1980).
KMPC: 20 years as a full service personality MOR, followed by 8 years of declining ratings as a full service Adult Contemporary.
They were all great stations. But the stations on the air right now deserve a lot more credit for their position and longevity than they get.[/b
I agree too. KJLH has been around for 30 years as long they play urban music ill still contiune to listen. Who cares about the direction they are still on the air. Im from KC radio sucks there big time. Country and Rock are your only choices only a handful of CHR, Urban and AC stations. Our LA stations are owned by major corperations so the playlist are tight and the dj's have little play compared to the 80's and 90's. San Dieago radio sucks too so we I say we are better off. Just because what you hear in other markets doesnt mean it will work in LA. How many times Rythnmic AC was tried here in this town and it never took off. They wouldnt give it time to grow. But back to what I was saying radio here is fine. There are other sources of music now to choose from.
The reason the current leaders have been around so long is because there is no competition in radio. Back when KHJ, KFWB and KRLA were around, they were targeting the same audience. Now with only a few corporations owning most of the stations, they rarely actually compete with each other. They just keep fragmenting the formats with each having a slice that doesn't compete with someone else who has a different slice of the same format. Look at the ratings that KHJ had, no station has those kind of ratings now since the format is fragmented into several pieces.
Ron said:
Actually, the last time KHJ had a number as good as KIIS-FM's current one was Fall, 1974. And KIIS-FM has competition from Power and AMP...whose numbers are as good as KHJ's were in the Fall of 1977 (actually better, because it's a 3.5 share of a much larger market).
michael hagerty said:
Yes - it's occurred to me that there's actually much more stability in radio formats since de-regulation than before. Since Clear Channel and CBS hoovered up all those stations in the 90s, I can think of only three stations among those two corporations in the Bay Area that have changed formats from their prior owners: Clear Channel's KKSF which dropped Smooth Jazz for classic rock last year; and for CBS, the two versions of KFRC - one became MOViN, and then the briefly resurrected KFRC which followed the doomed Free FM format, then changed to the KCBS-AM simulcast. But the second one doesn't really count, in my mind, because CBS had just acquired the frequency from a former religious broadcaster and it had been a non-comm for almost 40 years.
Other than that, all of the corporately owned stations retain their pre 97 formats, with some tweaking here and there.
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