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JBhouston71
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> The Point! The Wave! Mix!
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The Point! It has just gotten too predictable. About a month ago, they added some songs (Matchbox 20, Alanis, etc.) but now they are just recycling those over and over and over...again. They do seem to play some different music during their broadcasts out of Drink Houston (if they still do that), but the dance mix is annoying. I wish they would play some of those songs, regular radio version, during the day.
Some people have complained about "The Mix" not finding its musical niche lately. I kind of like it that way. I like the 8:00 Rewind at nights, as there have been a few cool surprises (stuff that I haven't heard on the radio in a while). To me, Mix has been enjoyable lately. I know others will disagree.
The Wave seems to be doing fairly well as is. Didn't they just add Funky Larry Jones in the morning? I'd assume that means they are set the way they are. I don't listen to The Wave very much though.
John
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The Point! It has just gotten too predictable. About a month ago, they added some songs (Matchbox 20, Alanis, etc.) but now they are just recycling those over and over and over...again. They do seem to play some different music during their broadcasts out of Drink Houston (if they still do that), but the dance mix is annoying. I wish they would play some of those songs, regular radio version, during the day.
Some people have complained about "The Mix" not finding its musical niche lately. I kind of like it that way. I like the 8:00 Rewind at nights, as there have been a few cool surprises (stuff that I haven't heard on the radio in a while). To me, Mix has been enjoyable lately. I know others will disagree.
The Wave seems to be doing fairly well as is. Didn't they just add Funky Larry Jones in the morning? I'd assume that means they are set the way they are. I don't listen to The Wave very much though.
John
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Mike_O
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> > The Point! The Wave! Mix!
> >
>
>
> The Point! It has just gotten too predictable. About a
> month ago, they added some songs (Matchbox 20, Alanis, etc.)
> but now they are just recycling those over and over and
> over...again. They do seem to play some different music
> during their broadcasts out of Drink Houston (if they still
> do that), but the dance mix is annoying. I wish they would
> play some of those songs, regular radio version, during the
> day.
>
> Some people have complained about "The Mix" not finding its
> musical niche lately. I kind of like it that way. I like
> the 8:00 Rewind at nights, as there have been a few cool
> surprises (stuff that I haven't heard on the radio in a
> while). To me, Mix has been enjoyable lately. I know
> others will disagree.
>
> The Wave seems to be doing fairly well as is. Didn't they
> just add Funky Larry Jones in the morning? I'd assume that
> means they are set the way they are. I don't listen to The
> Wave very much though.
>
> John
>
Not much to add, The Point should have been killed off a couple of years ago.
I don't bother much with The Mix any more, when they decide what kind of station they are going to be I'll tune in more often.
The Wave is getting better and will be around for a long time, they are a great alternative for Sunny and great background music like Sunny, actually better. Yes The Wave added Funky Larry Jones a few months ago, a very smart move on the part of Infinity.
I think that Infinity may be the only company that hires personnel that know how to run a radio station. Houston might be would better off if Infinity owned the max of 5 FM stations. There would at least be five stations that should be listenable.
Mike O
> >
>
>
> The Point! It has just gotten too predictable. About a
> month ago, they added some songs (Matchbox 20, Alanis, etc.)
> but now they are just recycling those over and over and
> over...again. They do seem to play some different music
> during their broadcasts out of Drink Houston (if they still
> do that), but the dance mix is annoying. I wish they would
> play some of those songs, regular radio version, during the
> day.
>
> Some people have complained about "The Mix" not finding its
> musical niche lately. I kind of like it that way. I like
> the 8:00 Rewind at nights, as there have been a few cool
> surprises (stuff that I haven't heard on the radio in a
> while). To me, Mix has been enjoyable lately. I know
> others will disagree.
>
> The Wave seems to be doing fairly well as is. Didn't they
> just add Funky Larry Jones in the morning? I'd assume that
> means they are set the way they are. I don't listen to The
> Wave very much though.
>
> John
>
Not much to add, The Point should have been killed off a couple of years ago.
I don't bother much with The Mix any more, when they decide what kind of station they are going to be I'll tune in more often.
The Wave is getting better and will be around for a long time, they are a great alternative for Sunny and great background music like Sunny, actually better. Yes The Wave added Funky Larry Jones a few months ago, a very smart move on the part of Infinity.
I think that Infinity may be the only company that hires personnel that know how to run a radio station. Houston might be would better off if Infinity owned the max of 5 FM stations. There would at least be five stations that should be listenable.
Mike O
It's obvious that The Point needs to commit suicide, but according to the great Doctor Doom, that won't be happening anytime soon. It's such a shame to let that good signal go to waste.
If, in a make-believe world, what format would you pick for 106.9?
Everyone knows I would want a Rock/Active Rock format.
How bout you?
SW
If, in a make-believe world, what format would you pick for 106.9?
Everyone knows I would want a Rock/Active Rock format.
How bout you?
SW
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coolcat713
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> It's obvious that The Point needs to commit suicide, but
> according to the great Doctor Doom, that won't be happening
> anytime soon. It's such a shame to let that good signal go
> to waste.
>
> If, in a make-believe world, what format would you pick for
> 106.9?
> Everyone knows I would want a Rock/Active Rock format.
> How bout you?
>
> SW
>
The MIX is about the only Radio Station that I listen to in Houston. I like their music. They don't play rap or hiphop or hurban!
The Wave is cool too! Leave it alone.
The Point has got to go!
> according to the great Doctor Doom, that won't be happening
> anytime soon. It's such a shame to let that good signal go
> to waste.
>
> If, in a make-believe world, what format would you pick for
> 106.9?
> Everyone knows I would want a Rock/Active Rock format.
> How bout you?
>
> SW
>
The MIX is about the only Radio Station that I listen to in Houston. I like their music. They don't play rap or hiphop or hurban!
The Wave is cool too! Leave it alone.
The Point has got to go!
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snoman
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The Point is pointless. It needs to GO!
Mix has a decent audience, and while they are continually moving the music in different directions, it is a decent station.
The Wave is doing EXCELLENT in the demos they are going after. It might appear in the ratings to be just average, but if you could see the breakdowns, they are getting killed naturally in the 12-17 demos, but the 25-54's and the 35-64's, they are doing quite well. Personally, I think they play a lot of stuff that breaks format, and I scratch my head a lot and ask "what does this song have to do with jazz?" But, I like their imaging, talent, and overall presentation. There are a lot of other stations in the market that I would tweak before messing with The Wave.<P ID="signature">______________
KVIL Highland Park
KVIL-FM Highland Park/Dallas-Fort Worth
Thanks for the memories Ron Chapman!</P>
Mix has a decent audience, and while they are continually moving the music in different directions, it is a decent station.
The Wave is doing EXCELLENT in the demos they are going after. It might appear in the ratings to be just average, but if you could see the breakdowns, they are getting killed naturally in the 12-17 demos, but the 25-54's and the 35-64's, they are doing quite well. Personally, I think they play a lot of stuff that breaks format, and I scratch my head a lot and ask "what does this song have to do with jazz?" But, I like their imaging, talent, and overall presentation. There are a lot of other stations in the market that I would tweak before messing with The Wave.<P ID="signature">______________
KVIL Highland Park
KVIL-FM Highland Park/Dallas-Fort Worth
Thanks for the memories Ron Chapman!</P>
Ahem. Allow me to point out what I have pointed out before on this board and in discussions with many. Smooth Jazz is a mix of some jazz, lite-ac and some old R&B. The Wave is NOT a jazz station; it's Smooth Jazz as I have described.
Smooth Jazz is relaxing, yet sensual. It's designed for creating and enhancing the mood for whatever you are doing. Snoman, you are right, we are hitting our demos and doing fine.
During my travels,as a legal videographer throughout the week, I am finding The Wave "on" in many offices of attorneys, doctors, and corporate offices. Generally these are in the reception areas.
When I find KODA on in some offices, I reach into my Wave bag of goodies and give them a Wave coffee cup or another promotional item along with my webpage from the Wave. (Cheap promotion on my part to get them to wake up with me on Sunday mornings) I promote the Wave and of course, myself. (Might as well, since I work there.) If I get one person to change it to The Wave, then I feel like I am doing good. I've actually gotten them to change it on the spot to The Wave.
I am the unofficial self-proclaimed ambassador for The Wave.
Smooth Jazz is relaxing, yet sensual. It's designed for creating and enhancing the mood for whatever you are doing. Snoman, you are right, we are hitting our demos and doing fine.
During my travels,as a legal videographer throughout the week, I am finding The Wave "on" in many offices of attorneys, doctors, and corporate offices. Generally these are in the reception areas.
When I find KODA on in some offices, I reach into my Wave bag of goodies and give them a Wave coffee cup or another promotional item along with my webpage from the Wave. (Cheap promotion on my part to get them to wake up with me on Sunday mornings) I promote the Wave and of course, myself. (Might as well, since I work there.) If I get one person to change it to The Wave, then I feel like I am doing good. I've actually gotten them to change it on the spot to The Wave.
I am the unofficial self-proclaimed ambassador for The Wave.
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snoman
Guest
When I was talking about some of the music I questioned, it is when I hear Sting/The Police, Phil Collins, and a few other arttists. If you have ever heard "Watercolors" XM 71, they seem to stay consistant with the core smooth jazz artists... Dave Koz, Rick Braun, Crusaders, Paul Hardcastle, etc. I just wished "The Wave" would stick more to that than playing as much R&B/AC as they do. But, I also realize that is part of the broad appeal of the station.
And as much as I like Marc Sherman at Sunny, the station has lost it's luster. They have fallen into the "current/recurrent" trend that a lot of AC stations have gone to (and it has hurt most of them). Sunny hasn't been affected by it yet, but they sound like a totally different station than it did when I moved here in 1998, and the change is not for the better.
I tried to do the same thing as you when 97.5 was still R&B. I tried to get businesses who had Majic 102 on to flip to Power 97.5. However, the signal problem was too much for some. However, I did get positive responses from some businesses on the East Side of town. With "Power" now gone, they've probably switched back to 102.
<P ID="signature">______________
KVIL Highland Park
KVIL-FM Highland Park/Dallas-Fort Worth
Thanks for the memories Ron Chapman!</P>
And as much as I like Marc Sherman at Sunny, the station has lost it's luster. They have fallen into the "current/recurrent" trend that a lot of AC stations have gone to (and it has hurt most of them). Sunny hasn't been affected by it yet, but they sound like a totally different station than it did when I moved here in 1998, and the change is not for the better.
I tried to do the same thing as you when 97.5 was still R&B. I tried to get businesses who had Majic 102 on to flip to Power 97.5. However, the signal problem was too much for some. However, I did get positive responses from some businesses on the East Side of town. With "Power" now gone, they've probably switched back to 102.
<P ID="signature">______________
KVIL Highland Park
KVIL-FM Highland Park/Dallas-Fort Worth
Thanks for the memories Ron Chapman!</P>
I really liked the Power 97.5 coffee cup. It was ceramic and a little bigger than a regular coffee cup. It was one of the best cups, I have seen in awhile. I have one. In fact, I have a whole bunch of media coffee cups I've collected thru the years.
Musically, I understand where you are coming from. One morning on "The Wave's Sunday Sunrise," I was surprised to find myself playing "Fever," by Peggy Lee. Actually, I loved it. During that time period, there are a few extra cuts that are scheduled, that are not otherwise played on The Wave.
Musically, I understand where you are coming from. One morning on "The Wave's Sunday Sunrise," I was surprised to find myself playing "Fever," by Peggy Lee. Actually, I loved it. During that time period, there are a few extra cuts that are scheduled, that are not otherwise played on The Wave.
> Musically, I understand where you are coming from. One
> morning on "The Wave's Sunday Sunrise," I was surprised to
> find myself playing "Fever," by Peggy Lee. Actually, I loved
> it. During that time period, there are a few extra cuts that
> are scheduled, that are not otherwise played on The Wave.
Turn me loose with programming that show! I could imagine hearing not only Peggy Lee, but also Etta James, Tony Bennet, Ray Charles and Diana Krall. And I certainly would give airplay to Klein's own Lyle Lovett.
You know how to reach me.
> morning on "The Wave's Sunday Sunrise," I was surprised to
> find myself playing "Fever," by Peggy Lee. Actually, I loved
> it. During that time period, there are a few extra cuts that
> are scheduled, that are not otherwise played on The Wave.
Turn me loose with programming that show! I could imagine hearing not only Peggy Lee, but also Etta James, Tony Bennet, Ray Charles and Diana Krall. And I certainly would give airplay to Klein's own Lyle Lovett.
You know how to reach me.
The beauty of The Wave, as a format, is that you can tweak it any one of a number of ways to adjust for changes in the market, without damaging the overall image of the station. The staying power of a station like The Wave is incredible. The audience, being more mature, is more loyal. They may drift off to other stations for short periods, but, they'll always come back. Personally, I think they play too many crossover tunes. With all the product out there, there's no reason to resort to that. Then again, sometimes, that's the perfect way to introduce someone new to the format. It's up to the programming wizards to have that "special instinct" for pulling that off. When I'm listening to The Wave and I hear a crossover tune that gets beat to death on Sunny, I get a little annoyed. If I want to hear a "Sunny tune", I'll listen to Sunny. I go to The Wave to hear Smooth Jazz.
> The beauty of The Wave, as a format, is that you can tweak
> it any one of a number of ways to adjust for changes in the
> market, without damaging the overall image of the station.
> The staying power of a station like The Wave is incredible.
> The audience, being more mature, is more loyal. They may
> drift off to other stations for short periods, but, they'll
> always come back. Personally, I think they play too many
> crossover tunes. With all the product out there, there's no
> reason to resort to that. Then again, sometimes, that's the
> perfect way to introduce someone new to the format. It's up
> to the programming wizards to have that "special instinct"
> for pulling that off. When I'm listening to The Wave and I
> hear a crossover tune that gets beat to death on Sunny, I
> get a little annoyed. If I want to hear a "Sunny tune",
> I'll listen to Sunny. I go to The Wave to hear Smooth Jazz.
>
Simply Red is one of my pet peeves. The Police and Bonnie Raitt also join the list. Why in God's name these are played on ANY smooth jazz format is beyond me.
I understand that they fit the mold so to speak, but KHJZ gets ridiculous sometimes.
And I will never stop ranting about their removal of the Joe Morello drum break in Dave Brubeck's "Take Five"--boo!!
The Point needs a "jack-up" to freshen up their haggard format. If you think I'm implying that somebody with some muscle needs to beat the tar out of Ken Carson (PD), then you wouldn't be too far off base. He might see the light with a good jarring. Either that or just file some nasty charges against his assailant.
I give KLDE another year not because their ratings are spectacular, but because they are acceptable, or what I would call the bare minimum, for their target audience. While definitely piss-poor for the #7 market in the US, Cox has the minimal ratings and revenue to keep this station on oxygen a little longer.
> it any one of a number of ways to adjust for changes in the
> market, without damaging the overall image of the station.
> The staying power of a station like The Wave is incredible.
> The audience, being more mature, is more loyal. They may
> drift off to other stations for short periods, but, they'll
> always come back. Personally, I think they play too many
> crossover tunes. With all the product out there, there's no
> reason to resort to that. Then again, sometimes, that's the
> perfect way to introduce someone new to the format. It's up
> to the programming wizards to have that "special instinct"
> for pulling that off. When I'm listening to The Wave and I
> hear a crossover tune that gets beat to death on Sunny, I
> get a little annoyed. If I want to hear a "Sunny tune",
> I'll listen to Sunny. I go to The Wave to hear Smooth Jazz.
>
Simply Red is one of my pet peeves. The Police and Bonnie Raitt also join the list. Why in God's name these are played on ANY smooth jazz format is beyond me.
I understand that they fit the mold so to speak, but KHJZ gets ridiculous sometimes.
And I will never stop ranting about their removal of the Joe Morello drum break in Dave Brubeck's "Take Five"--boo!!
The Point needs a "jack-up" to freshen up their haggard format. If you think I'm implying that somebody with some muscle needs to beat the tar out of Ken Carson (PD), then you wouldn't be too far off base. He might see the light with a good jarring. Either that or just file some nasty charges against his assailant.
I give KLDE another year not because their ratings are spectacular, but because they are acceptable, or what I would call the bare minimum, for their target audience. While definitely piss-poor for the #7 market in the US, Cox has the minimal ratings and revenue to keep this station on oxygen a little longer.
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snoman
Guest
>
> I give KLDE another year not because their ratings are
> spectacular, but because they are acceptable, or what I
> would call the bare minimum, for their target audience.
> While definitely piss-poor for the #7 market in the US, Cox
> has the minimal ratings and revenue to keep this station on
> oxygen a little longer.
>
KLDE's ratings are better, as well. Like I said with "The Wave", they are getting killed in the younger demos, but their older demos are ok. Yes, they could be a lot better, but I can't see Cox making a change there. <P ID="signature">______________
KVIL Highland Park
KVIL-FM Highland Park/Dallas-Fort Worth
Thanks for the memories Ron Chapman!</P>
> I give KLDE another year not because their ratings are
> spectacular, but because they are acceptable, or what I
> would call the bare minimum, for their target audience.
> While definitely piss-poor for the #7 market in the US, Cox
> has the minimal ratings and revenue to keep this station on
> oxygen a little longer.
>
KLDE's ratings are better, as well. Like I said with "The Wave", they are getting killed in the younger demos, but their older demos are ok. Yes, they could be a lot better, but I can't see Cox making a change there. <P ID="signature">______________
KVIL Highland Park
KVIL-FM Highland Park/Dallas-Fort Worth
Thanks for the memories Ron Chapman!</P>
R
radiodial
Guest
> > When I'm listening to The Wave and I
> > hear a crossover tune that gets beat to death on Sunny, I
> > get a little annoyed. If I want to hear a "Sunny tune",
> > I'll listen to Sunny. I go to The Wave to hear Smooth
> > Jazz.
> >
>
> Simply Red is one of my pet peeves. The Police and Bonnie
> Raitt also join the list. Why in God's name these are played
> on ANY smooth jazz format is beyond me.
> I understand that they fit the mold so to speak, but KHJZ
> gets ridiculous sometimes.
> And I will never stop ranting about their removal of the Joe
> Morello drum break in Dave Brubeck's "Take Five"--boo!!
>
The problem with the Wave being Smooth Jazz is that as had been said many times before is that it is not always jazz. It's mood music and as such they should rename the format to Smooth Mood. This name would be less insulting and confusing to listeners. If Smooth Jazz isn't necessarily jazz then QUIT CALLING IT JAZZ!!! They hijacked the term "jazz" to sound hip and it only serves to piss off intelligent music listeners.
And anything Kenny G. has got to go... His music is a joke.
> > hear a crossover tune that gets beat to death on Sunny, I
> > get a little annoyed. If I want to hear a "Sunny tune",
> > I'll listen to Sunny. I go to The Wave to hear Smooth
> > Jazz.
> >
>
> Simply Red is one of my pet peeves. The Police and Bonnie
> Raitt also join the list. Why in God's name these are played
> on ANY smooth jazz format is beyond me.
> I understand that they fit the mold so to speak, but KHJZ
> gets ridiculous sometimes.
> And I will never stop ranting about their removal of the Joe
> Morello drum break in Dave Brubeck's "Take Five"--boo!!
>
The problem with the Wave being Smooth Jazz is that as had been said many times before is that it is not always jazz. It's mood music and as such they should rename the format to Smooth Mood. This name would be less insulting and confusing to listeners. If Smooth Jazz isn't necessarily jazz then QUIT CALLING IT JAZZ!!! They hijacked the term "jazz" to sound hip and it only serves to piss off intelligent music listeners.
And anything Kenny G. has got to go... His music is a joke.
> The problem with the Wave being Smooth Jazz is that as had
> been said many times before is that it is not always jazz.
> It's mood music and as such they should rename the format to
> Smooth Mood. This name would be less insulting and
> confusing to listeners. If Smooth Jazz isn't necessarily
> jazz then QUIT CALLING IT JAZZ!!! They hijacked the term
> "jazz" to sound hip and it only serves to piss off
> intelligent music listeners.
Not exactly.
The LISTENERS call it jazz.
People who love real jazz are offended, but people who love real jazz aren't listening to KHJZ.
I've watched focus groups in other markets. People really do call music that isn't jazz "jazz" because to *them* that's what it is.
So, if KHJZ wants its listeners to identify with them, they'll call it Smooth Jazz because the audience won't know what Smooth Mood means, but if you ask them who their favorite jazz artists are, they'll name at least one Marsalis, Bonnie Raitt, and Sting.
They may be wrong, but what can you do?<P ID="signature">______________
...co-moderator of the Satellite Radio, Phoenix, and San Diego boards...</P>
> been said many times before is that it is not always jazz.
> It's mood music and as such they should rename the format to
> Smooth Mood. This name would be less insulting and
> confusing to listeners. If Smooth Jazz isn't necessarily
> jazz then QUIT CALLING IT JAZZ!!! They hijacked the term
> "jazz" to sound hip and it only serves to piss off
> intelligent music listeners.
Not exactly.
The LISTENERS call it jazz.
People who love real jazz are offended, but people who love real jazz aren't listening to KHJZ.
I've watched focus groups in other markets. People really do call music that isn't jazz "jazz" because to *them* that's what it is.
So, if KHJZ wants its listeners to identify with them, they'll call it Smooth Jazz because the audience won't know what Smooth Mood means, but if you ask them who their favorite jazz artists are, they'll name at least one Marsalis, Bonnie Raitt, and Sting.
They may be wrong, but what can you do?<P ID="signature">______________
...co-moderator of the Satellite Radio, Phoenix, and San Diego boards...</P>
C
CinnamonRoll
Guest
"They may be wrong, but what can you do?"
Point at them and laugh?
Point at them and laugh?
C
CinnamonRoll
Guest
I would go with The Point myself.
With them it is always the same songs over and over (not that that is different from any other station in town) and what I do hear is not my flavor when it comes to the 80's.
I prefer more of the pop and dance aspect of the era.
I know others may disagree, but I kind of like MIX.
Even though there are things I would like to see different, I can tolerate them more than most other stations.
I would love to see them be a mix of what they are currently and what I hear on Virgin Radio UK.
A localized version of the party classics on Friday nights would be nice.
The biggest issue I've always had with them is the fact that they don't make an effort to break in new things.
It either has to be from an already well established artist or something that will fit the format that has already proven successful on the Buzz or KRBE.
Basically the station seems to leach off of others.
I don't listen to KHJZ but from what I understand, they do well enough not to change.
With them it is always the same songs over and over (not that that is different from any other station in town) and what I do hear is not my flavor when it comes to the 80's.
I prefer more of the pop and dance aspect of the era.
I know others may disagree, but I kind of like MIX.
Even though there are things I would like to see different, I can tolerate them more than most other stations.
I would love to see them be a mix of what they are currently and what I hear on Virgin Radio UK.
A localized version of the party classics on Friday nights would be nice.
The biggest issue I've always had with them is the fact that they don't make an effort to break in new things.
It either has to be from an already well established artist or something that will fit the format that has already proven successful on the Buzz or KRBE.
Basically the station seems to leach off of others.
I don't listen to KHJZ but from what I understand, they do well enough not to change.
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