WHTQ 96 Rock to flip to simulcast of WDBO-AM 580 on Friday morning

[Nick Stevens]

They may have to await "Clearance" on those synicated shows...I know WNDB runs Hannity Delayed 6-9 PM and at one point when WNDB was on FM in Daytona COX Prevented WNDB-FM from carrying Rush Limbaugh which at the time DBO was running on a one hour tape delay from 1-4PM while WNDB-AM has always aired Rush Live 12-3PM. Will be interesting to see if Black Crow says wait "We have an exclusive to broadcast Hannity in Volusia County".

When WNDB petitioned Premiere Radio Networks to take Rush off WNZF in Flagler County, WNDB tried making the same argument with Hannity. However, due to the fact WNDB delays Hannity and WNZF carries Hannity live puts Blackcrow at a slight disadvantage. WNDB also carries Boortz and Savage. However, WNDB only carries Neal for two hours verses the full four hours as WDBO, and Savage is also delayed on WNDB until 9 PM.

 

[meduci]

"96 Rock" on HD-2 returned Saturday afternoon, still in low-fidelity mono, though . They need to tweak that! Perhaps they do not have the HD-2 stereo facilities from the studio back to the transmitter? WDBO-FM analog 96.5 FM is still monaural (when I told my wife, she asked, "Are they trying to save money?"). Scrolling RBDS is also present on the analog signal. Cox Engineering wants to ensure that the AM simulcast can be heard on FM without any additional static that the FM stereo subcarrier would have added to the reception, especially in FM multipath-prone areas.

 

[gmspectre]

The reason is clear.

A radio station is finding it harder and harder to "sell" the station to prospective advertisers when the ears are not listening. With MP3's, iheartradio, Pandora (aptly named), satellite, and who else knows what's next, Rock is the format that is the lastest victim. In New York, Philly, and Orlando, what market is next?

I have my thoughts, your guess is as good as mine, but it will happen.

AM's will become infomercials and Religious for awhile while Sports and News/Talk migrate to the FM. There is currently no new "Rush" on the horizon that will take either band to the next level. On-line will be getting easier and more dependable with smaller things that resemble "radios".

That is until the government goes too far and orders a shutdown-type of an event.

There are bills now in Congress being discussed dealing with a "switch" for the internet.

It only takes one event and people will someday wish they had their radio back.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

So the way to get people intrested in radio is for the technology to have an online transmitter that can get online stations to all the places radio can. Then the government regulates it and shuts it down so that mainstream radio will be the only alternative. They should push that fact on one of those "I heart radio" ads.

Also the good stuff I said before about JRR. Screw that, last Friday I had a 20 minute drive to work, and only heard one half of a Metallica song, the rest was just generic DJ yammering about wacky news stories. Crappy DJ's are more bearable when you at least have an alternative to swtch to until it ends.

But I guess that's what we have now. 96.5 is just a bunch of talking heads intent on telling everyone about how much they hate Obama so much.

 

[JH_Radio]

Jukebox = why bother ?
Radio is not (suppose) to be a jukebox IMO!
So on that note, airchecks (non-jukebox style folows...
Classic Rock 96.5 WHTQ (Orlando, FL) 5-9-2011, 5 00 PM Unidentified Feamale DJ Slight Static.mp3 (281.1 MB)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/0udkt4

NAC Smooz Jazz 103.1 WLOQ (Orlando, FL) 5-13-2011, 5 05 PM Unidentified Male DJ, recorded outside, slight static.mp3 (278.3 MB)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/glbddi

Enjoy!

 

[badjef]

The reason is clear.

A radio station is finding it harder and harder to "sell" the station to prospective
advertisers when the ears are not listening. With MP3's, iheartradio, Pandora (aptly
named), satellite, and who else knows what's next, Rock is the format that is the lastest
victim. In New York, Philly, and Orlando, what market is next?

I have my thoughts, your guess is as good as mine, but it will happen.

AM's will become infomercials and Religious for awhile while Sports and News/Talk
migrate to the FM. There is currently no new "Rush" on the horizon that will take either
band to the next level. On-line will be getting easier and more dependable with smaller
things that resemble "radios".

That is until the government goes too far and orders a shutdown-type of an event.

There are bills now in Congress being discussed dealing with a "switch" for the internet.

It only takes one event and people will someday wish they had their radio back.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

So the way to get people intrested in radio is for the technology to have an online
transmitter that can get online stations to all the places radio can. Then the government
regulates it and shuts it down so that mainstream radio will be the only alternative. They
should push that fact on one of those "I heart radio" ads.

Also the good stuff I said before about JRR. Screw that, last Friday I had a 20 minute
drive to work, and only heard one half of a Metallica song, the rest was just generic DJ
yammering about wacky news stories. Crappy DJ's are more bearable when you at least
have an alternative to swtch to until it ends.

But I guess that's what we have now. 96.5 is just a bunch of talking heads intent on
telling everyone about how much they hate Obama so much.

1.) No, you missed what I said. Radio is easier to use and harder for the government to
control. Online listening is still more difficult and not dependable.

2.) “Crappy DJ”s”? Wait until they are no longer there.

3.) Nobody said they “hated” O’Bama. If you wish to continue this point, we can “TIO”
the argument.

4.) Be careful what you ask for, you will get it.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[tomservo]

2.) “Crappy DJ”s”? Wait until they are no longer there.

You mean when they play uninterrupted music between commercial breaks? I see no downside to that. Good jocks are a rarity these days. I didn't know it at first, but I've been "trained" by Clear Channel to automatically switch stations when the DJ starts talking. Why? The only time they're allowed to talk for more than 5 seconds is leading into a commercial break!

Some formats benefit from knowledgeable airstaff and listener interaction. Classic rock is not one of them. I got spoiled by the XM classic rock channels before Uncle Mel ruined everything and added DJs and smaller playlists. It broke my tolerance of yammering jocks, even if they're talking current events or weather. Time spent talking is time not spent playing music.

 

[gmspectre]

1.) No, you missed what I said. Radio is easier to use and harder for the government to
control. Online listening is still more difficult and not dependable.

Yeah, but a few years ago it was easier to use with a better selection of music. I'm really hoping online will get easier. The thing radio has now as opposed to i-pods and mp3 players is the ability to introduce new music or reintroduce music that hasn't been heard in a while. That's why I liked 105.9 when it was modern rock, 104.1 alternative weekends, 96.5 was good for when I felt like some of the older stuff and even after I liked the new direction, still listen to 91.5 when it's a genre I like, and although it does get repetitive I've actually have been enjoying more of the songs that 101.1 has been playing lately.

2.) “Crappy DJ”s”? Wait until they are no longer there.

Again, I was listening for 20 minutes and only heard half a song on the only rock station I could get that day. I'd say more but Zach put it better than I ever could.

You mean when they play uninterrupted music between commercial breaks? I see no downside to that.

Time spent talking is time not spent playing music.

3.) Nobody said they “hated” O’Bama. If you wish to continue this point, we can “TIO”
the argument.

I only used that term because when talking about 96.5 at work with my co-workers
(which actually has been getting a lot of play in there), I actually toned that down because they said they were "whining about Obama".

4.) Be careful what you ask for, you will get it.

Get what? A choice of radio stations that can support multiple styles of rock music and add new songs regularly? Taking a drive on the weekend and listening to a station because I enjoy the music it's and not because it's the only choice.

You mean when they play uninterrupted music between commercial breaks? I see no downside to that.

Time spent talking is time not spent playing music.

I just felt like quoting this again.

 

[HGN2001]

96.5 still has some work to do on their RDS text. Some radios (like mine) report the format description for a few seconds before displaying the scrolling identifier text. Right now, 96.5 still comes up first as "Classic Rock". Engineers always forget this little fact.

 

[badjef]

2.) “Crappy DJ”s”? Wait until they are no longer there.

You mean when they play uninterrupted music between commercial breaks? I see no downside to that. Good jocks are a rarity these days. I didn't know it at first, but I've been "trained" by Clear Channel to automatically switch stations when the DJ starts talking. Why? The only time they're allowed to talk for more than 5 seconds is leading into a commercial break!

Clear Channel didn't "train" you. It was going on long before "Clear Channel" was a bad word.

And yes, you are going to wish they were still there.
Mark my word!

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[badjef]

2.) “Crappy DJ”s”? Wait until they are no longer there.

Again, I was listening for 20 minutes and only heard half a song on the only rock station I could get that day. I'd say more but Zach put it better than I ever could.

If you are going to properly critique a station, 20 minutes won’t cut it. You are a “PPM”.

You mean when they play uninterrupted music between commercial breaks? I see no downside to that.

Time spent talking is time not spent playing music.

It is time spent listening. It doesn’t matter what the audio is.

You mean when they play uninterrupted music between commercial breaks? I see no downside to that.

Time spent talking is time not spent playing music.

I just felt like quoting this again.

Too much time on your hands, eh?

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[tomservo]

Clear Channel didn't "train" you. It was going on long before "Clear Channel" was a bad word.

And yes, you are going to wish they were still there.
Mark my word!

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

I need clarification — I'll wish the DJs were there or the radio stations, period?

 

[badjef]

Clear Channel didn't "train" you. It was going on long before "Clear Channel" was a bad word.

And yes, you are going to wish they were still there.
Mark my word!

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

I need clarification — I'll wish the DJs were there or the radio stations, period?

BOTH!

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[tomservo]

I don't foresee radio stations going away entirely. But I'd still rather have no DJ at all than a bad DJ who rambles incessantly or can't post the song properly (or isn't allowed to).

As for music radio disc jockeys, they don't usually tell me anything I don't already know (because I don't generally listen to top 40/CHR music anymore.) If there's breaking news, I usually hear about it first on FaceSpace or via news websites or news radio. Furthermore, music radio "traffic reports" are, more often than not, completely wrong and useless. Maybe it's different in Orlando, I don't know. I hate it they're losing a classic rock station, but they're at least gaining an FM outlet for news and talk which implies that the new format will be better for breaking actual news than having Crusty McSpleen interrupt Boston to tell us about a spill on the turnpike.

 

[radiobum]

I wonder how many people in vaudeville realized the end or that the peak was near-near the end. I see a possible analogy for radio.

Also I think right wing talk radio has peaked. How long can you hear i.e. how terrible it is that Obama is taking a vacation but it was fine when Bush did or how terrible it is that the U.S. is invading other countries under Obama but how wonderful it was under Bush. It's all so predictable.

 

[badjef]

I wonder how many people in vaudeville realized the end or that the peak was near-near the end. I see a possible analogy for radio.

It is one analogy. If people continue to migrate to other media, there will not be the advertisers to help keep radio on the air.

Also I think right wing talk radio has peaked. How long can you hear i.e. how terrible it is that Obama is taking a vacation but it was fine when Bush did or how terrible it is that the U.S. is invading other countries under Obama but how wonderful it was under Bush. It's all so predictable.

If you think both men are the same, they are not.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[radiobum]

JEFF..My point is that the actions are the same-but of course the right wingers spin it differently. Of course many Democrats had no problem with the war in Libya for that matter.

 

[cd637299]

I wonder how "panicky" some radio folk in general were, in the early 1950s, when they realized that TV was taking over, and (until music became king on AM) what in the world they were going to do.

It seemed that the strict music formats like top 40, C&W, R&B, full service/MOR, and others kept radio afloat for many more years.

Things may have come full circle now, as again, radio is at a crossroads.....Kids are downloading music now, Internet radio gives the music people want, etc.

Many formerly AM-dominant formats are moving to FM as well, like WDBO. Let the merry-go-round begin....

cd

 

[tomservo]

Many formerly AM-dominant formats are moving to FM as well, like WDBO. Let the merry-go-round begin....

Don't forget that talk programming on FM means paying less (or none?) to the royalties people.

Birmingham is a good example of FM's future dialscape. Of the 23 or so commercial FM signals, you have three talk stations (WYDE, WERC, WAPI) and one sports FM (WJOX) with another on the way (WNCB is about to flip). Of the 18 remaining that are music-oriented, four of those are translators covering limited area, all fed via HD-2 from bigger stations.

In a sense, the city lost four music stations to talk but gained four new music stations back via translator (WNCB's country format is already heard on two other full power stations and won't be missed.) That may be the future of radio and more specifically, HD broadcasting. Only the most viable, widely listened formats survive, with everyone else taking up some form of talk/news/sports speech programming. Lesser music formats are shuffled to HD-2 or HD-3 side channels and maybe just maybe find a translator to hop a ride on.

 

[DJ Mo]

Yeah, but a few years ago it was easier to use with a better selection of music. I'm really hoping online will get easier. The thing radio has now as opposed to i-pods and mp3 players is the ability to introduce new music or reintroduce music that hasn't been heard in a while. That's why I liked 105.9 when it was modern rock, 104.1 alternative weekends, 96.5 was good for when I felt like some of the older stuff and even after I liked the new direction, still listen to 91.5 when it's a genre I like, and although it does get repetitive I've actually have been enjoying more of the songs that 101.1 has been playing lately.

Is what I play on WPRK-FM 91.5 a genre you like?
Not sure what genre you would classify what I play.

On a side note, I've been listening to 101.1-HD2 "Channel X" a lot lately.
As for 96.5-HD2, listening to Rock in mono takes so much away from listening in stereo.
I hope they flip on the stereo switch soon.

 

[gmspectre]

You mean when they play uninterrupted music between commercial breaks? I see no downside to that.

Time spent talking is time not spent playing music.

It is time spent listening. It doesn’t matter what the audio is.

Not when I change the station.

You mean when they play uninterrupted music between commercial breaks? I see no downside to that.

Time spent talking is time not spent playing music.

I just felt like quoting this again.

Too much time on your hands, eh?

It took five seconds to copy and paste that quote. It wasn't that hard to do it, see...

You mean when they play uninterrupted music between commercial breaks? I see no downside to that.

Time spent talking is time not spent playing music.

And yes, you are going to wish they were still there.
Mark my word!

From another post, but it's funny how you keep, but never actually explain why we would miss them.