• Get involved.
    We want your input!
    Apply for Membership and join the conversations about everything related to broadcasting.

    After we receive your registration, a moderator will review it. After your registration is approved, you will be permitted to post.
    If you use a disposable or false email address, your registration will be rejected.

    After your membership is approved, please take a minute to tell us a little bit about yourself.
    https://www.radiodiscussions.com/forums/introduce-yourself.1088/

    Thanks in advance and have fun!
    RadioDiscussions Administrators

WHUD

With the overall downsizing of the industry, anyone who gets hired had to impress someone. Apparently they think this guy has learned from his mistakes.

I personally can tell a couple of busesses plans that didn't work. At least I now know what not to do!
 
This is commercial radio. I am sure if most stations could "in house" and make a better profit they would. That being said most of the info comes for state DOT info that is available to anyone. (There are exceptions where a station has the big buck$$$$ sponcer or a tv operation to put a traffic reporter in a 🚁 helicopter). The problem with a lot of traffic operations is sooner or later they will have to hire someone who doesn't have local "knowledge".

I personally know in Atlanta the WAZE app is about 15 to 30 minutes behind WSB traffic reporting wrecks.

To get "canned" from iHeart, or Cumulus you had to be good enough to get hired. I bet there are more than one applicant for any position at either.

I have been told by my boss at one station that I was not his first choice, but I was the most talented person available. Thankfully the owner's "favorite" turned him down. The "first choice's" wife had a teaching job in her hometown and would not move.
Not sure who this guy is bot he brought in a number number of people
 
Not sure who this guy is bot he brought in a number number of people
Not sure who this guys is but he brought in a number of people without local. Knowledge. Not criticizing l, but it does sound like they are reading off a Dot fax or report. Mostly speed through a given delay or time it takes to go through an the area or accident
 
Not sure who this guys is but he brought in a number of people without local. Knowledge. Not criticizing l, but it does sound like they are reading off a Dot fax or report. Mostly speed through a given delay or time it takes to go through an the area or accident
Every morning on WHUD & WXPK, The Peak (both Pamal stations), the traffic is always reported as "building" or a "brake check" in both directions at Exit 33 on the Saw Mill River Parkway. Of course there is!!! Each and every day!!! All day long!!! Even on weekends!!! Why? Because Exit 33 is the traffic light at Reader's Digest Road. Everyone slows down there!!! But this new traffic service is unaware of this --> why? Because they are not from the Hudson Valley!!!
 
Mostly speed through a given delay or time it takes to go through an the area or accident
Because they are not from the Hudson Valley!!!

Here's the key question: Is the report sponsored? If it is, that's the reason why they do it.

They're getting this information from commercially available sources. It's not like they're in a car or helicopter actually seeing the traffic. The point of the report is #1 The convenience of having something read to you, rather than you getting it yourself (push vs pull), and #2: Because its sponsored. They can do this from Albany, which is likely where they are.
 
I have found a nicely worded email to the station can sometimes do wonders. Apparently you have knowledge of the "guy" that runs the place. That would be a start. If his address is not on the station web site, call the station (maybe someone will answer) during business hours and ask for an address or you might even get to talk with the offending party. If you are unsuccessful try reaching him thru social media.

If nothing above works and you still have a grip, contact the local sponcers. They are paying for it.
 
Here's the key question: Is the report sponsored? If it is, that's the reason why they do it.

They're getting this information from commercially available sources. It's not like they're in a car or helicopter actually seeing the traffic. The point of the report is #1 The convenience of having something read to you, rather than you getting it yourself (push vs pull), and #2: Because its sponsored. They can do this from Albany, which is likely where they are.
I understand & I thank you for your info on this. I’m familiar With how Traffic reports go on Radio. It’s sounds like some reports are sponsored & some not
 
I understand & I thank you for your info on this. I’m familiar With how Traffic reports go on Radio. It’s sounds like some reports are sponsored & some not

Do you think total traffic has someone in the hudson valley, or do they staff their traffic reporting somewhere else?

Because from what I can see, iHeart doesnt own a station in the market. So why would they staff a local traffic office there?
 
Do you think total traffic has someone in the hudson valley, or do they staff their traffic reporting somewhere else?

Because from what I can see, iHeart doesnt own a station in the market. So why would they staff a local traffic office there?
I don’t know where they broadcast from
 
If people are listening to music on the radio then it's in music distribution business as much as streamers. I've just stopped responding to that idiotic comment that gets trotted out constantly around here.

You don't understand what the word BUSINESS means. Companies in the music distribution business charge people for delivery of music. Radio doesn't deliver music. It delivers audience to advertisers. People think Facebook is free. What they don't know is Facebook is selling their personal information to advertisers.
All the more reason for it's eventual irrelevance.

There are a lot of people who listen to radio for things other than music. I don't see much future for music on the radio. There was a time when music attracted big audiences. Today, that's only true for a small number of artists. The model for artists and labels is lots of artists and lots of music. That dilutes the size of the audience. But it works for them.
 
Radio doesn't deliver music. It delivers audience to advertisers.

A statement from a salesman's point of view that really shows contempt for the product being sold.

Radio and streaming both attract their audiences by playing music for them. They both support that by selling ads between songs.

While streaming also has an option for people to pay a subscription fee not to hear the ads, their business models both depend on attracting their audience by -- yes -- distributing music to them.

There are a lot of people who listen to radio for things other than music. I don't see much future for music on the radio.

Most FM stations still play music and that's what we're discussing here. Obviously there are talk radio stations that are not in the "music distributions business". And the streamers offer podcasts that also don't distribute music. So I think we can exclude all of that from this comparison.

Honestly, it's a pretty meaningless statement.
 
A statement from a salesman's point of view that really shows contempt for the product being sold.

That's your interpretation, not a statement of fact. The programming is not the product. Because the audience doesn't pay for the programming.
Radio and streaming both attract their audiences by playing music for them. They both support that by selling ads between songs.
Factually incorrect. Radio offers many formats besides music. There are non-commercial versions of both radio and streaming.

, their business models both depend on attracting their audience by -- yes -- distributing music to them
As I already said, there are format where music isn't included. Your comment ignores the human element involved in presentation of the format. That human element primarily exists in radio. Music streaming services such as Spotify, Pandora, Amazon, and Apple are largely unhosted and not curated. So these are two very different things. Streaming can be done on-demand, where the customer chooses the songs that person will hear. There's a premium for that service. It's not an option in broadcast radio. So that's why I say radio isn't in the music distribution business. Distributing music is not it's primary function, and it's not what is sold to advertisers. Typically advertisers don't care about the format or the music being played, just the demographics of the audience it attracts. Just because radio uses music doesn't mean it's in the music business.

Honestly, it's a pretty meaningless statement.

My comment was in response to someone else.
 
Westchester is in the NY Metro, and if you squint hard enough you can see WHUD in the ratings, so seems valid here... Not sure if they went in-house but parent company Pamal did not renew with iHeart's TotalTraffic and white label/NBC Radio news service in 2024. Mentioned over the air by Jimmy Fink on 107.1 The Peak ahead of Mike Barker's final report there. Traffic in particular seems like an out of town work in progress; lot's of areas you wouldn't normally hear being reported on, and alternate, seldom-used names of roads (calling it the Briarcliff-Peekskill Parkway instead of 9A said no one I've ever met in Westchester!).
Any Idea why ? Mike Bennett hasn’t been on in the Morning in two weeks & Kacey hasn’t mentioned him ? He’s still on The WHUD website. But I find it strange
 
Status
This thread has been closed due to inactivity. You can create a new thread to discuss this topic.


Back
Top Bottom