WHY CAN'T WE HAVE A TRUE OLDIES STATION?????????????

[BIGSTICK]

I know I have asked a million times. But why in the hell can't a market this size have a really good oldies station?

Don't tell me demos, because I can't buy in to that at all.

Their thousands and thousands of people who would kiss the ground if we could get a powerful oldies stick back in this god for saken radio town...............

 

[lilburncommunityradio]

??? You will get the same ole same ole from all the anti oldies crowd.. It will not work in the Demo's currently being sold. Oldies does not sell as a format anymore.. . If you want oldies then play them on cd, get a IPOD and play them that way... Most who would listen to oldies are dead... Take your excuse and insert... Damn this town, I hate the radio that exists now... BUT on a bright note, The Reg guys are back, and Rock 100.5 sounds like the old 96 rock, thats pretty cool.. I will take that for now, then I will hope and ask Santa for a oldies station.

 

[BIGSTICK]

??? You will get the same ole same ole from all the anti oldies crowd.. It will not work in the Demo's currently being sold. Oldies does not sell as a format anymore.. . If you want oldies then play them on cd, get a IPOD and play them that way... Most who would listen to oldies are dead... Take your excuse and insert... Damn this town, I hate the radio that exists now... BUT on a bright note, The Reg guys are back, and Rock 100.5 sounds like the old 96 rock, thats pretty cool.. I will take that for now, then I will hope and ask Santa for a oldies station.

Oldies from the 60's and 70's will never die. It will sure last a lot longer that the new sh## that is on the radio now.

 

[TheRealOtherNeil]

I can think of 2.1 reasons why not.

 

[middlega]

Don't tell me demos, because I can't buy in to that at all.

So basically this is a rhetorical question then, since you don't want to hear a very significant part of the answer.

 

[jabba17]

??? You will get the same ole same ole from all the anti oldies crowd.. It will not work in the Demo's currently being sold. Oldies does not sell as a format anymore.. . If you want oldies then play them on cd, get a IPOD and play them that way... Most who would listen to oldies are dead... Take your excuse and insert... Damn this town, I hate the radio that exists now... BUT on a bright note, The Reg guys are back, and Rock 100.5 sounds like the old 96 rock, thats pretty cool.. I will take that for now, then I will hope and ask Santa for a oldies station.

Oldies from the 60's and 70's will never die. It will sure last a lot longer that the new sh## that is on the radio now.

I'm surprised that someone doesn't throw oldies on an AM signal (particularly some of these almost-a-daytimer stations like WGUN--surely a 1 share is better than the brokered garbage they air), or an HD2 signal. I'm assuming that a well-run station with a robust syndicated lineup like WCFO gets more from the syndication fees than they would make going it alone and getting minimal ratings.

Of course, if it's 70s oldies you want, DX on over to Majic 102.9 out of Clarkesville/Gainesville ( http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WMJE&service=FM&status=L&hours=U ). There's a lot of fun, small market oldies stations that rimshot Atlanta, although two of the biggest (Lake 102 and Sunny 100) bit the dust when Davis turned them into La Raza.

There's always Joe Weber's WMLB 1690, too, for a fun eclectic mix.

 

[Oldiesaholic]

"True" Oldies, "Real" Oldies, "Big" Oldies, what ever you might call it just doesent seem to work any more. When it DOES show up in whatever town it may be, it always seems to be either the same ol' 100-200 tired, over-played songs (now, with every third song being by Fleetwood Mac or the Eagles), or that "We play the Four Tops, but we also play Bon Jovi" or something along those lines. It has totally lost its focus. I went the XM-CD-i pod route after 2005/2006 nation-wide oldies radio massacre. Oh! The Humanity!

 

[BIGSTICK]

"True" Oldies, "Real" Oldies, "Big" Oldies, what ever you might call it just doesent seem to work any more. When it DOES show up in whatever town it may be, it always seems to be either the same ol' 100-200 tired, over-played songs (now, with every third song being by Fleetwood Mac or the Eagles), or that "We play the Four Tops, but we also play Bon Jovi" or something along those lines. It has totally lost its focus. I went the XM-CD-i pod route after 2005/2006 nation-wide oldies radio massacre. Oh! The Humanity!

I agree, like someone said Lake 102 and 100.1 were amazing station's, till they had to cater to XXXXXXXXX.

 

[RTibbs]

I know I have asked a million times. But why in the hell can't a market this size have a really good oldies station?

Don't tell me demos, because I can't buy in to that at all.

Their thousands and thousands of people who would kiss the ground if we could get a powerful oldies stick back in this god for saken radio town...............

Thousands and thousands in a city of five million, you say. That is very impressive. Now I understand why you think Cumulus made a mistake with Rock 100.5. I heard they are only selling based on hundreds and hundreds of listeners.

As far as oldies on AM ok try it but good luck. Music sounds horrible on AM and without any budget

My advice is get XM before you need therapy.

 

[jal41]

One word...DISCRIMINATION.

There has been a long and rampant pattern of discrimination against older people.

Older people have more money because they have higher wages because they have experience. However, it seems to me that younger people are spending more then they have, while older people are wiser and are saving (that is a good thing).

There are services that older people need...but many of them are medical in nature (and nobody likes to hear about the fact that they could be bedridden soon). But there are also businesses that promote a good feeling that can cater to older people (vacations, financial savings for their children/grandchildren, etc). Older people do buy into these things when they retire.

However, it is all about the quick buck. If the younger generation will spend themselves into a cardboard box under the freeway overpass, then radio (and the advertisers) will cater to that need.

As for an oldies station in Atlanta, you can rule out FM for the time being. Either a small AM or an HD2 will have to do.

 

[MRFLASHPORT]

I'll agree with that, but it's more like the CONsultants and turd blossoms at clear channel that choose to ignore this demo. It sure isn't the case with television, plenty of programming aimed at older demos. And apparently that's where the ad dollars are spent.

Only some drooling idiot would say that older people aren't a profitable demo. My dad is a great example. 66 years old, retired, plenty of disposable income. Lives a very active life, travels every month. Eats out alot. You'd think someone like this would be a prime target but the just out of college radio experts at CC and the Cloud company don't think he is a viable audience. No problem, the record companies have made a fortune selling him stacks of CD's. He's been done with radio in Atlanta since the end of Ludlow Porch, Gary McKee and Fox 97.
Apparently there are many more like him...

 

[Roach Radio]

John Roach here,aka Jumpin' Jack from Sunny 100. I would just like to thank those who recognize that Sunny 100 was a great oldies station. It was great because of Scott Evans (formerly of Z-93) diligently programming it to sound as much like a "powerhouse" Atlanta station as possible. Bob Bailey (Atlanta radio legend to put it mildly) was the afternoon show, and I did mornings. We three Atlanta radio vets did our best to make a 25kw rimshot station sound as much like a major market station as possible with what we had to work with, and I am proud of how the station sounded, and how many loyal listeners we had in North Ga.
I don't remember how big our playlist was when Greg Davis put a bullet to the back of Sunny 100's head, but it was probably 500 to 700 at least, you'd have to ask my P.D. Scott Evans.
If an Atlanta station would pick up the oldies format the way it was on Sunny 100 it would make money, either on an FM or a decent AM signal.

Roachman out

 

[XM RADIO]

With XM And Sirius No need for Terrestrial Oldies!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Phlash Phelps on XM 60s channel ,, way to go!

 

[Mike Sheridan]

With XM And Sirius No need for Terrestrial Oldies!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Phlash Phelps on XM 60s channel ,, way to go!

I have to agree. XM is the way to go. I hear songs, hits, that I haven't heard in years. Not the same old tired songs that have been played to death. I also don't have to put up with format flips and endless commercial sets.

How about the head of the RAB who wants an FM radio in every iPod, Cell Phone, and PDA? What is that guy smokin'? I don't know anyone who wants that. Traffic reports? Don't make me laugh. You wouldn't believe the number of times I hear reports on an accident that's been cleared for some time. So just how valuable is their old information?

 

[FloydB]

Older people have more money because they have higher wages because they have experience. However, it seems to me that younger people are spending more then they have, while older people are wiser and are saving (that is a good thing).
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However, it is all about the quick buck. If the younger generation will spend themselves into a cardboard box under the freeway overpass, then radio (and the advertisers) will cater to that need.

Well, there's your answer right there. You don't try to sell the snake oil to the ones that aren't buying, do you? All the geriatrics' money go into advertising on TPIR and, now that Bob's gone and Drew's in, some of THAT ad buys will start to go younger since many geriatrics tuned off after Bob left.

Nevertheless, you've summed it up yourself: Yes, there are many, many products that are marketed towards senior citizens that buy on TV shows that senior citizens watch. But, since they are very tight with their money, ads on a radio station they could barely hear or even remember the number would be pointless. And, radio stations change format so quickly that they don't even try to keep up anymore. Think about it: How many of you "seasoned veterans" out there hear people still being fired up about ch. 5 going Fox and dropping CBS, making them not remember where CBS went to, to them finding it again on ch. 46? That was, how many years ago? Yet, I hear about it all the time, and I moved here in '99. You still think they can keep up with the even more volatile radio changes?


I'm sorry if this sounds cruel, well, unfortunately it is. Personally, I adore our older generations and consider them a wealth of knowledge and wisdom that us younger ones can learn from (especially now, since the ones that were born during or lived through the depression can help us milk every cent from a dollar!). However, I also know they don't need to be bombarded by a barage of ads that they won't care to listen to.

With that being said, it's a different age and a different time. Even the Lawrence Welk hour is disappearing from PBS.

 

[nightmanager]

What's old is relative. For many of us, the 70s and 80s were our teen decades. The kids graduating high school this year weren't alive in the 80s much less remember it. So in the future, their oldies will be top40 of right now?

At some point there won't be many people left who remember the 40s or 50s or 60s. The music from those decades go from being oldies to being ancient.

I am just wondering when people will stop using that annoying record needle drag sound effect. At some point, there won't be anyone alive who actually knows what the sound is, other than "that annoying scratch noise".

 

[lilburncommunityradio]

??? You will get the same ole same ole from all the anti oldies crowd.. It will not work in the Demo's currently being sold. Oldies does not sell as a format anymore.. . If you want oldies then play them on cd, get a IPOD and play them that way... Most who would listen to oldies are dead... Take your excuse and insert... Damn this town, I hate the radio that exists now... BUT on a bright note, The Reg guys are back, and Rock 100.5 sounds like the old 96 rock, thats pretty cool.. I will take that for now, then I will hope and ask Santa for a oldies station.

Oldies from the 60's and 70's will never die. It will sure last a lot longer that the new sh## that is on the radio now.

I'm surprised that someone doesn't throw oldies on an AM signal (particularly some of these almost-a-daytimer stations like WGUN--surely a 1 share is better than the brokered garbage they air), or an HD2 signal. I'm assuming that a well-run station with a robust syndicated lineup like WCFO gets more from the syndication fees than they would make going it alone and getting minimal ratings.

Of course, if it's 70s oldies you want, DX on over to Majic 102.9 out of Clarkesville/Gainesville ( http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WMJE&service=FM&status=L&hours=U ). There's a lot of fun, small market oldies stations that rimshot Atlanta, although two of the biggest (Lake 102 and Sunny 100) bit the dust when Davis turned them into La Raza.

There's always Joe Weber's WMLB 1690, too, for a fun eclectic mix.

Joe Weber ruined 1690 pure plain and simple. WGUN would sound great playin oldies, if only whoever owns that station would figure out that the crap on the air over there is not appealing. Local Jocks playin great songs, like oldies and standards mixed, not the birdcalls at the top of the hour. Atlanta is a town that caters to Hip Hop, So called top 40, and sleepy slow A/C music. The sound of Fox 97 1.0 was great, or Sunny 100. Lake 102 was ok to say the least, It lacked real punch in the audio but none the less a pretty good station. They focused on songs that you dont hear all that often.

 

[BIGSTICK]

I have Sirius and XM on the computer , I have an I pod as well, plus numerous station's that I have bookmarked on my computer. That is not the point I am trying to make. Why do other major markets have oldies? It would definitely work in Atlanta again.

You can get rock, hip-crack, and all the other above formats on XM and Sirius as well. You don't have to hate me because I like "oldies".

 

[andyfrom88]

I think my show on Album 88 (Mondays at 8pm) is about as close as you're going to get to oldies in Atlanta these days. I play modern rockabilly ( as well as psychobilly, surf, and garage rock), but I also mix in a lot of early Carl Perkins, Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Bill Haley, Big Momma Thornton, Gene Vincent, Ritchie Valens, Janis Martin, Link Wray, etc.

 

[XM RADIO]

Sirius has cousin Brucie, Bill Rock, Pat St John. and "Mr Music NORM N NITE" and on Sirius totally 70s is magic mat,, great guy..and last but not least JJ Walker on totally 70s nites,,,between the music and djs radio is great,,then onto XM ,,Phlash Phelps and his morning show, and Wolf man Jack nites,, For the money, i wouldnt go with out it!! Its never goung to flip,, 60s oldies live on!
4 XM subs since 04
3 Sirius subs since 06

You never hear Ode to billie Joe on terrestrial, nor would you ever hear Shame Shame by the magic lanterns from 69! Cousin Brucie plays EVERYTHING YOU REQUEST