Why I love Mac & Gaydos

[Wildstyle K]

They don't just present the (variety of) issues, they get into the topic, dissect the issues, and make decisions based on logical common sense rather than what FEELS good emotionally and personally, all while making sure they even explain it all in a full, precise, thorough, simple to understand fashion.

Today, they were talking about parents who force their kids to eat / finish all the food on their plate AFTER they are already full. Now, I was shocked when they presented this topic and told it like it was because this is something I was talking about back in 2006 and 2007. As a matter of fact, this is not something that should even have to be discussed (or learned) on a radio show because common sense SHOULD tell anyone not to force their kids to unnecessarily over eat (because YOU feel like it), and using the excuse "OTHER kids are starving so YOU should eat all the food I put in your plate" only makes the whole situation more foolish. I think it's pretty self explanatory, but still, I am going to explain why it's foolish later on, just incase... But first, I want to say that it's so funny how when people choose to do something dumb or create a problem and then someone comes along and points it out and has a logical solution that would not only solve the situation, but prevent further trouble from occurring, the other person who created the problem by choosing not to THINK gets upset RATHER THAN simply doing what would make sense and changing the behavior that is causing the situation in the first place! Then on top of that, they find a way to BLAME SOMEONE ELSE or the person pointing out the problem for the situation!

I JUST CANNOT COMPREHEND THIS TYPE OF THINKING!

So, with that being said, I will get into a brief summary of a situation they discussed on air as an example. EXAMPLE 1: Grandmother forces kid to eat after the kid has already CLEARLY indicated he's full. The kid throws up and gets sick in the middle of the night, so parents come to get kid. Now grandmother is upset and people are not talking as a result, and somehow "it's the kids or someone elses fault".
EXAMPLE 2: Mother forces kid to clean her plate all during childhood AFTER the kid has indicated EACH TIME that they were full. Flash forward a few years later, during a discussion at the table, the daughter brings up the FACT that she's fat because the mother always forced her to eat as a child. What happens next? The mother GETS UPSET and it becomes a family feud - ALL BECAUSE SOMEONE PRESENTED THE FACTS BASED ON LOGIC AND COMMON SENSE. This entire situation could have all been presented by, once again, simply using the brain.

I don't think I should have to explain any further...

And lastly, I'll just say that I can GUARANTEE you that in BOTH situations, no one could know, say, or feel what the kid was feeling with a higher level of accuracy than the kid - who said THEY WERE FULL.

I'm glad that Mac & Gaydos brought up this story, although I truly believe that this is another thing people should already just know WITHOUT it having to be explained by anyone. As usual, I already know that anyone who feels offended or chooses not to see the common sense in the things I've just said will get upset at me for bringing it up and pointing it out rather than changing whatever behavior they are producing to make themselves feel offended by the things I've just said. It's ok to not think or use simple common sense on your own personal time, but when you know it will affect someone else's life, PLEASE THINK (and research the FACTS) before acting. This goes far deeper than just parenting and amount of food in a child's plate.

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Anyone who needs me to explain why 1, using the excuse "OTHER kids are starving so YOU should eat all the food I put in your plate" or 2, believing that the kid should be forced to eat everything because YOU (not the kid) decided to cook and put that certain amount of food in their plate only makes the whole situation more absurd, let me know.

 

[asugeorge1]

Without getting into the philosophical aspect of this topic, I want to speak common sense and logic and ask why Mac and Gaydos are even talking about something as pointless as this in the first place? I believe this is further proof of the stupidity that oozes out of the Mac and Gaydos show from "3 to 7, 3 to 7, 3 to 7." You got two guys, with NO parenting experience themselves, talking about an issue that has very little or no relevance to current events. These guys have no idea what's it like to be a parent, so it's frustrating to listen to them when they try to tell parents how to raise they're kids. It's time to bring back Arizona's Afternoon News so we can actually get some useful and relevant information during the drive home.

 

[Wildstyle K]

Without getting into the philosophical aspect of this topic, I want to speak common sense and logic and ask why Mac and Gaydos are even talking about something as pointless as this in the first place? I believe this is further proof of the stupidity that oozes out of the Mac and Gaydos show from "3 to 7, 3 to 7, 3 to 7." You got two guys, with NO parenting experience themselves, talking about an issue that has very little or no relevance to current events. These guys have no idea what's it like to be a parent, so it's frustrating to listen to them when they try to tell parents how to raise they're kids. It's time to bring back Arizona's Afternoon News so we can actually get some useful and relevant information during the drive home.

1. You don't have to have kids (or always know / experience everything fully) to judge something by logic and common sense. Even people who cannot, or have no experience in driving, just (or should just automatically) know that you don't drive through red lights for obvious reasons, ...etc. ..and I'll just leave it at that one example alone. So, with that being said, you do not need to have full, real life experience to look at any particular thing from a common sense and logical point of view.

2. I believe that parenting and feeding kids is still relevant today, in 2010, and will remain relevant until the necessity to do those things no longer exists. This is also what's good about KTAR - the fact that they bring VARIETY topics. There's always KFYI for those who don't want too much variety, but to get straight talk or different views about one particular type of subject all day long, for the most part.

It's also obvious that somebody needs to discuss parenting more often.... for obvious reasons - no need to go into detail and explain why when you can just watch the news, listen to Handel on The Law, WATCH JUDGE JUDY (the QUEEN of common sense), or go out and see why I say this, in live action. Nobody's perfect, but this should not be an excuse for people to just run around willy nilly and say "well, nobody's perfect, so we might as well mess up and do whatever we want and no one should say anything about it". By the way, I do not see where common sense and logic applies to simply just asking why Mac & Gaydos are choosing to talk about what they wish to talk about on their own show. ;D

 

[DrAkbar]

By the way, I do not see where common sense and logic applies to simply just asking why Mac & Gaydos are choosing to talk about what they wish to talk about on their own show. ;D

The Nurse and I never thought we'd see common sense and logic used in the same sentence with Mac & Gaydos!

 

[Legend City]

I think forks are too dangerous for kids. How about mandating sporks?

 

[Wildstyle K]

I think forks are too dangerous for kids. How about mandating sporks?

Ok, just like Mac & Gaydos, amongst many other talk show hosts are forced to do many times, I am going to repeat myself before going any further.

"Nobody's perfect, but this should not be an excuse for people to just run around willy nilly and say "well, nobody's perfect, so we might as well mess up and do whatever we want and no one should say anything about it".

Therefore, if nobody's perfect, then nothing in life is perfect.. and that pretty much sums it all up,
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but I will still explain further.

First, unlike the example I used earlier regarding driving and traffic lights, the sporks and forks comments really has nothing to do with this. There is a big difference between the two examples and the fashion in which they were used...

Second, lets say that we all do choose to live according to "well, if we stop or criticize doing this, then we might as well also stop or criticize doing this and this and this and this...etc (which in reality, in many ways translates to "well everyone else doesn't use common sense, so there's really no point in even doing so..). Let me go the opposite extreme with the forks 'n' sporks comment and say this: "Well, I think this world is a dangerous place and we're all going to die anyway, so we might as well go ahead and have open pools with no fences, let kids roam freely in the streets, and let aircrafts fly around with no maintenance....etc etc etc.". and I could go on and on and on. Oh, and "well I think there will always be crime, so we all might as well not mandate stealing, raping, and killing as well"!

And this is the problem here. Instead of choosing to use common sense and stop doing things to unnecessarily create problems, people want to make excuses to why we should all do absurd things because "everyone else is doing it" one way or the other.

Lastly, unlike the supply and availability of forks and the accessibility kids have to them once they leave their homes, parents have TOTAL CONTROL over whether or not they force their own kids to eat more than they need, so one really does not have anything to do with the other. Just because we have forks, knives, construction supplies, scissors...etc. - whatever you can think of, this still does not justify forcing your kids to eat just because you chose to cook the amount of food you chose to put in their plate. That brings me right back to "nobody is perfect, but this does not mean we should all just go crazy and not even try to use simple common sense in SIMPLE, EASY TO MANAGE situations. Maybe Mac & Gaydos may not have kids, but I'm sure they were raised by parents and can still remember and see certain things from a KIDS point of view, but even saying that is irrelevant because like I said, you do not have to be in or experience a situation fully to judge it based on natural logic and common sense. In sensible situations, when someone (or even machinery) says "stop" or "enough", I don't even have to think before automatically knowing I should probably stop and not try to force feed what I think should be the appropriate amount.

 

[indieradioguy]

Without getting into the philosophical aspect of this topic, I want to speak common sense and logic and ask why Mac and Gaydos are even talking about something as pointless as this in the first place? I believe this is further proof of the stupidity that oozes out of the Mac and Gaydos show from "3 to 7, 3 to 7, 3 to 7." You got two guys, with NO parenting experience themselves, talking about an issue that has very little or no relevance to current events. These guys have no idea what's it like to be a parent, so it's frustrating to listen to them when they try to tell parents how to raise they're kids. It's time to bring back Arizona's Afternoon News so we can actually get some useful and relevant information during the drive home.

Well-said. What's the deal with a NEWS/TALK station actively avoiding - quite literally *avoiding* - talking about the news stories that were reported at the top and the bottom of the hour? You don't see KJZZ/NPR report a story at the top of the hour and then detour into, "And, now, we'll talk about if the toilet paper should be rolled up or rolled down...!" And, yet, that seems to be the norm at KTAR. Why? Does Bonneville not trust the grown-ups with some "useful and relevant information during the drive home"? Whoever's producing the 3-7 time slot needs to lay off the Oprah and Bon Bon's. I'm just sayin'....

 

[Wildstyle K]

A few of the replies I'm seeing here indicate that either people don't know what KTAR is doing, or are not listening, or are listening but not hearing or understanding what is being said. Yes, I did say they discussed parents force feeding kids, but this does not mean that because I said that and only talked about that, then this must be the only topic they've ever discussed. There are plenty of times they've discussed top of the hour news stories within the VARIETY of topics they cover. I cannot tell you how many times I've heard them speak in regards to something they've discussed on the NEWS portion during the top of the hour.

Oh, and once again, people are misunderstanding the fact that just because everyone else, or someone else is doing something, that doesn't mean everyone in the world must do the same. It's also the same when it comes to what someone else is not doing. If NPR wants to do something different from KTAR, or vice versa, then so be it. I believe in the freedom of different formatting in radio. Even without the use of the word "literally", I cannot see how they could be (literally) avoiding top of the hour news when first, it is their top of the our news on their own station, and secondly, as I mentioned earlier, they do touch on some of the topics that were discussed during the NEWS portion of the broadcast in the TALK portion, within their variety of topics.

"Nobody's perfect, but this should not be an excuse for people to just run around willy nilly and say "well, nobody's perfect, so we might as well mess up and do whatever we want and no one should say anything about it"

People are ALWAYS going to talk. There are two choices; Ignore the talk, or change the behavior that's causing the talk if possible - ESPECIALLY IF you are in control of that behavior, and you know that that behavior is unnecessarily causing a problem, or contributing to a simple, easy to eliminate, situation. Getting upset at the person making you think about something you don't wish to know or hear does not solve anything. It's funny how people cannot understand this, yet wonder why there can't be world peace.

 

[elizabethboyle]

I love Mac and Gaydos for the same reasons I love The Barry Young Show (with Andrew and Michelle):

High drama
A sprinkling of the absurd
Excellent comedic timing
Chemistry

Topics come and go. With the right hosts, an entertaining show can transcend it's topic.

 

[azenergyfan]

Such a welcome change to the talk dial from non stop politics from 10-4 on KFYI. Six hours is too much and then lets not forget another few in the evening with Savage. ICK that is not the way to do talk radio.

 

[indieradioguy]

A few of the replies I'm seeing here indicate that either people don't know what KTAR is doing, or are not listening, or are listening but not hearing or understanding what is being said. Yes, I did say they discussed parents force feeding kids, but this does not mean that because I said that and only talked about that, then this must be the only topic they've ever discussed. There are plenty of times they've discussed top of the hour news stories within the VARIETY of topics they cover. I cannot tell you how many times I've heard them speak in regards to something they've discussed on the NEWS portion during the top of the hour.

Oh, and once again, people are misunderstanding the fact that just because everyone else, or someone else is doing something, that doesn't mean everyone in the world must do the same. It's also the same when it comes to what someone else is not doing. If NPR wants to do something different from KTAR, or vice versa, then so be it. I believe in the freedom of different formatting in radio. Even without the use of the word "literally", I cannot see how they could be (literally) avoiding top of the hour news when first, it is their top of the our news on their own station, and secondly, as I mentioned earlier, they do touch on some of the topics that were discussed during the NEWS portion of the broadcast in the TALK portion, within their variety of topics.

If you'd like to note with a pen and paper the accuracy of this statement, KTAR's broadcast hour during Mac & Gaydos consists of - in order - ABC News feed, then KTAR news staff (typically Jamie) with local headlines, then weather and traffic - with the only two or three KTAR on-air personalities who, to the accuracy of your statement, can be honestly referred to as the "they" talking about "news," and then - finally - at :07 or :08 after the hour, the hot topic for the segment is - stop the presses - bikini waxing. And, what's the deal with Mac & Gaydos both always being off on the same day? Is that contractual? Why does Gaydos have to be away from the mike just because Mac is off that day? I don't think their producers realize it's bad radio, tacky radio that reflects incredibly poorly on Phoenix at a time the eyes and ears of the world are on us.

 

[KMGX]

Perhaps they should be discussing some other hard hitting topics as well such as what fertilizers are best to make the garden grow fastest--after all, we are in the midst of the growing season and I think it would provide great "VARIETY" to discuss such a topic. Organic vs. Non Organic is another great variety topic and so incredibly fascinating I could listen for years. Kenmore vs. Whirlpool.... I think it's critical in these troubled times to discuss which brand we should use in our homes.

So, if I read the original poster correctly, people should listen to the radio for their parenting advice and discussions--and they should ESPECIALLY consider the advice of two people that have combined to raise ZERO children for this advice. Keeping in mind that the original poster himself addresses the topic as "common sense". If we're discussing common sense issue, maybe we should discuss not eating yellow snow or looking both ways before crossing the street... given KTAR's normal rotation of topics... that actually would be just about typical.

It's a good thing Mac and GAYdos don't waste all that unnecessary time in the day on show prep... well I'm sure I've given them a few additional ideas.

 

[Wildstyle K]

So, if I read the original poster correctly, people should listen to the radio for their parenting advice and discussions--and they should ESPECIALLY consider the advice of two people that have combined to raise ZERO children for this advice....

You didn't get what I said. This was not the conclusion that was supposed to be aroused, nor was I encouraging people to reach. Without re-posting everything I've said, I'm not sure how to make it any clearer, after already saying and explaining things thoroughly.

 

[KOOL Listener Lauren]

Rather than talking down to people here, who cares? What draws in more listeners on the FM dial? More news or more fluff? Do we have that information readily available like Bonneville does? It's different strokes for different folks.

 

[Wildstyle K]

Rather than talking down to people here, who cares? What draws in more listeners on the FM dial? More news or more fluff? Do we have that information readily available like Bonneville does? It's different strokes for different folks.

Seemingly, quite a bit of people care. Look at the stimulating conversation I've aroused. What draws in more posters on the RI board? More technical radio talk or more fluff? I have the hand typed (or hand hunter & pecker, depending on your typing skills) version of my own show going on here. It's different words for different bo(a)rds. Now am I right or am I right? ;D

 

[Wildstyle K]

KDM, I reread your post-- it was the second period you mention that Michaels-Trueba was associated with Promo Only. I found a press release of his hire http://www.djzone.net/pg/djnews/people/phil-michaelstrueba-joins.shtml. I'd be interested in knowing who was helming the dance series during the first period you mentioned!

I love it when people do this!!

KDM, I reread your post--

And in somewhat of an unrelated note, I also love when on numerous occasions, I say something sensible, and whether ridiculed or not, a day or two or three.. or a few weeks / months (or even years) later I check somewhere else and see people saying / chanting the PRECISE, EXACT same things I've said a long time ago!! ...but this, I will not get into specifics about who, what, when, where...etc. ;D

 

[Legend City]

Chopsticks are dangerous, they can be sharpened and used as a shiv.

We need more of those japanese soup spoons, you can do anything with it and not hurt anyone. Unless you swallowed it, and it blocked your windpipe.

Has it hit 100 degrees yet?

 

[DrAkbar]

Mac & Gaydos reveal the dirty secret about diapers: they should be changed! Riveting radio 3 to 7, 3 to 7, 3 to 7 on KT'R 92~Three.



Is it windy where you are?

 

[Wildstyle K]

I have the hand typed (or hand hunter & ------, depending on your typing skills) version of my own show going on here.

Whoa! It looks like something or somebody edited out a word I had there that wasn't even bad!  ??? Looking on the bright side, at least it makes it look worse than it really was, leading to more edginess, which will spark more attention to this thread, resulting in more views & possibly membership action to this board!  ;D


...And I also just figured out how to make my words do this!

 

[KMGX]

Why can't a radio show--like Mac and GAYdos for example--discuss the importance of child proofing your home... keeping sharp objects and dangerous household products/chemicals out of reach. If only someone on the radio had the wisdom to tell me to check the batteries in my smoke detector every six months.

God, the wealth of fascinating topics is endless; who invented the question mark? why don't we go on daylight saving time here in Arizona (what do you think of daylight saving time? give me a call!), mother's day is coming up, if you had your own language, how would you spell "mom"?

I don't know about you, but if I did such bad radio every day I would want to wear a disguise when I cashed my paycheck.